Norton Ghost 9 drive copy will not work

S

slc

Hello,

I'm trying to copy a 10 Gig HD to a 30 Gig HD. The 10 gig drive is
the master drive in my system that is running windows XP pro and has
"Norton system Works Premier" installed. The 30 gig drive is
install as the Slave drive. I have checked the bois and both drives
appear to be register correctly.
In the drive copy Wizard I select the 10 gig drive as the "Source"
drive and the 30 gig drive as the "Destination" drive. I also
select the options to make the 30 gig drive the "Active
driver/Starting OS drive" and also select the option to "Copy the
MBR". After the drive finishes copying I shut down windows and remove
the old 10 gig drive from the system and set the jumpers on the 30 gig
drive to "single drive"(the only Hard drive in the system). Upon
rebooting I checked the bois setting and the 30 gig drive is the only
one listed and it is the primary drive. After saving the bois setting
the system reboots.
When the system boots with the 30 gig hard driver it stops at the
Microsoft windows blue screen and will not go any further.

Does any one knwon what is wrong with norton ghost 9 and how to fix it
so the drive copy will work and boot from the nes drive?

Thanks
Kevin
 
A

Andy

Make sure that your drives are both the same type and on the same IDE
channel or other controller when you reboot. Are they both IDE or SCSI
or SATA? They must match.

-Andy
 
E

Eric Gisin

What a load of bullshit.

Andy said:
Make sure that your drives are both the same type and on the same IDE
channel or other controller when you reboot. Are they both IDE or SCSI
or SATA? They must match.
 
T

Timothy Daniels

Andy said:
Make sure that your drives are both the same type and on the same IDE
channel or other controller when you reboot. Are they both IDE or SCSI
or SATA? They must match.


Why can't a P-ATA drive be cloned to a S-ATA drive? The operating
system doesn't know the difference, so their file formats and boot
sectors and loading routines are probably identical.

*TimDaniels*
 
T

Timothy Daniels

I'm trying to copy a 10 Gig HD to a 30 Gig HD. The 10 gig drive is
the master drive in my system that is running windows XP pro and has
"Norton system Works Premier" installed. The 30 gig drive is
install as the Slave drive. I have checked the bois and both drives
appear to be register correctly.
In the drive copy Wizard I select the 10 gig drive as the "Source"
drive and the 30 gig drive as the "Destination" drive. I also
select the options to make the 30 gig drive the "Active
driver/Starting OS drive" and also select the option to "Copy the
MBR". After the drive finishes copying I shut down windows and remove
the old 10 gig drive from the system and set the jumpers on the 30 gig
drive to "single drive"(the only Hard drive in the system). Upon
rebooting I checked the bois setting and the 30 gig drive is the only
one listed and it is the primary drive. After saving the bois setting
the system reboots.
When the system boots with the 30 gig hard driver it stops at the
Microsoft windows blue screen and will not go any further.

Does any one knwon what is wrong with norton ghost 9 and how to fix it
so the drive copy will work and boot from the nes drive?


What are the contents of the C:\boot.ini file? (You can open it with
Notepad and copy the contents to your news reader posting.) What
is the make of the new hard drive? (I'm guessing Western Digital.)
BTW, the BIOS (Basic I/O System) controls the initial boot process,
"bois" is French for "wood".

Did you tell Ghost to give the new partition a letter name or did
you leave it un-named?

*TimDaniels*
 
R

Rod Speed

Timothy Daniels said:
Andy wrote
Why can't a P-ATA drive be cloned to a S-ATA drive? The operating
system doesn't know the difference, so their file formats and boot
sectors and loading routines are probably identical.

But the entry in the boot.ini wont necessarily be.
 
R

Rod Speed

I basically gave up on using Ghost 9 for system drive cloning.
I have 3 partitions on the boot drive and that complicates things
considerably, and while it copied one of the data partitions fine,
it failed to complete copying the second one. I didnt actually get
around to trying cloning the boot partition, I had already pissed
the entire morning against the wall with what I had already tried.

Acronis True Image 8 did the clone fine, and in less time
than it took for Ghost to copy just one data partition too.

You could try checking the contents of the boot.ini in the
new drive, particularly if the two drives werent on the one
controller. Do that when booted from the original drive with
both drives in the system and manually edit it if it looks wrong
for the new config with just the new drive in the system.

You can probably boot the XP CD and restore the install thats
on the new drive with the new drive as the only drive installed too.
 
S

slc

Both drive are IDE and on the same channel (IDE-)when I copyed one
drive to the other. when I remove the 10 gig drive and reboot when only
the 30gig is when it will not boot.
 
S

slc

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect


The new drive is Western digital.
In the ghost wizard the new partition part for the drive letter was
grayed out.
 
M

Michael Kimmer

Hello,

I'm trying to copy a 10 Gig HD to a 30 Gig HD. The 10 gig drive is
the master drive in my system that is running windows XP pro and has
"Norton system Works Premier" installed. The 30 gig drive is
install as the Slave drive. I have checked the bois and both drives
appear to be register correctly.
In the drive copy Wizard I select the 10 gig drive as the "Source"
drive and the 30 gig drive as the "Destination" drive. I also
select the options to make the 30 gig drive the "Active
driver/Starting OS drive" and also select the option to "Copy the
MBR". After the drive finishes copying I shut down windows and remove
the old 10 gig drive from the system and set the jumpers on the 30 gig
drive to "single drive"(the only Hard drive in the system). Upon
rebooting I checked the bois setting and the 30 gig drive is the only
one listed and it is the primary drive. After saving the bois setting
the system reboots.
When the system boots with the 30 gig hard driver it stops at the
Microsoft windows blue screen and will not go any further.

Does any one knwon what is wrong with norton ghost 9 and how to fix it
so the drive copy will work and boot from the nes drive?

Thanks
Kevin

This sounds like weird solution, but it does work!
Unlock the boot process by running an FDISK /MBR from a bootable floppy.
You can download a Windows 98 SE bootable floppy disk image from this
location:
(http://www.mbhs.edu/~jaosborn/boot98sc.exe)

Run the file after inserting a blank writeable floppy disk in your floppy
disk drive...

If you don't have a floppy drive just create a bootable CD based on a
Windows 98 floppy disk image

Boot from it and run:

fdisk /mbr

--
M.f.G.
Michael Kimmer

"Ein Tag an dem Du nicht lächelst ist ein verlorener Tag"
"Eine Nacht in der Du nicht schläfst ist eine verschlafene Nacht"
 
T

Timothy Daniels

Rod Speed said:
But the entry in the boot.ini wont necessarily be.


I've read that there is a boot.ini entry for SCSI drives, but is there
a special boot.ini entry for S-ATA drives?

*TimDaniels*
 
T

Timothy Daniels

Michael Kimmer said:
This sounds like weird solution, but it does work!
Unlock the boot process by running an FDISK /MBR from a bootable floppy.
You can download a Windows 98 SE bootable floppy disk image from this
location:
(http://www.mbhs.edu/~jaosborn/boot98sc.exe)

Run the file after inserting a blank writeable floppy disk in your floppy
disk drive...

If you don't have a floppy drive just create a bootable CD based on a
Windows 98 floppy disk image

Boot from it and run:

fdisk /mbr


Would using the WinXP Repair Console to run "fixmbr" do
the same thing?

But since the OP got as far as the Windows XP blue screen,
doesn't that imply that the MBR is OK?

*TimDaniels*
 
R

Rod Speed

I've read that there is a boot.ini entry for SCSI drives, but is there a
special boot.ini entry for S-ATA drives?

I just meant the numbers that appear in each line.
 
M

Michael Kimmer

Timothy said:
Would using the WinXP Repair Console to run "fixmbr" do
the same thing?

But since the OP got as far as the Windows XP blue screen,
doesn't that imply that the MBR is OK?

*TimDaniels*

No...done that...FIXMBR will not fix the issue...
A fdisk /mbr will definitely!

Let's wait for the OP with the final answer!

--
M.f.G.
Michael Kimmer

"Ein Tag an dem Du nicht lächelst ist ein verlorener Tag"
"Eine Nacht in der Du nicht schläfst ist eine verschlafene Nacht"
 
S

slc

Booting from a windows 98 boot disk
and running FDISK /MBR now makes
the new 30 gig drive boot up without
any problems.
Thank You.
 
S

slc

I have also been doing a lot of testing
And I have find that to make Norton ghost
Disk copy work right, that the destination
Drive can not have a partition created
on it, so the right thing to do is to delete the
Drive partition on the destination
Drive before you start the disk copy.
Then is the wizard in the drive destination
part pick the larges partition on the destination
drive, then in the other parts of the wizard
select the options to "set drive active
(for booting OS)" and "resize drive to fill
unallocated space" and "copy MBR"
and leave the part about assigning
a drive letter set to NONE.
I have tested this 3 or 4 times and each time
Ghost works grate and I can boot the new
Drive after changing the jumper and cables
to the right settings. So the secret is do not
have any partitions on the new hard drive.

Again Thanks for all the grate help.
 
T

Timothy Daniels

Michael Kimmer said:
No...done that...FIXMBR will not fix the issue...
A fdisk /mbr will definitely!

Let's wait for the OP with the final answer!


It appears you're right!

*TimDaniels*
 

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