New virus (price.cpl - Bagle varient) and current Virus-Total results

[David H. Lipman]

From: "kurt wismer" <[email protected]>

| Virus Guy wrote:
| [snip]|
| providing virus samples carelessly is like littering - ever little bit
| counts...
|
| --
| "they threw a rope around yer neck to watch you dance the jig of death
| then left ya for the starvin' crows, hoverin' like hungry whores
| one flew down plucked out yer eye, the other he had in his sights
| ya snarled at him, said leave me be - i need the bugger so i can see"

Kurt the wiseman.

The problem with you Kurt is that you are correct all too often !

 

[Virus Guy]

providing virus samples carelessly is like littering

Providing virus samples carelessly would be attaching viral files to a
usenet post in these NG's. Zipped and PW-protected if necessary (with
PW in plain view).

Why are you so hung up about this?

 

[Virus Guy]

Scanned Sept 12 / 10pm EST:

BitDefender 7.0 09.02.2005 no virus found
CAT-QuickHeal 8.00 09.12.2005 no virus found
eTrust-Iris 7.1.194.0 09.13.2005 no virus found
eTrust-Vet 11.9.1.0 09.12.2005 no virus found
Ikarus 0.2.59.0 09.12.2005 no virus found
McAfee 4579 09.12.2005 no virus found
VBA32 3.10.4 09.12.2005 no virus found
The Cleaner v3843 09.12.2005 no virus found
Fortinet 2.41.0.0 09.07.2005 suspicious

Scanned Sept 17:

All are now identifying it as either Bagle, Mitglieder, Dropper, or
Tooso, except the following:

Fortinet 2.41.0.0 09.07.2005 suspicious

Even The Cleaner (def'n date Sept 16) is identifiying it as Bagle.

 

[kurt wismer]

Providing virus samples carelessly would be attaching viral files to a
usenet post in these NG's.

no, that's just *another* way of providing them carelessly... there's a
broad range of carelessness and both your actions and this fall into
that category...

[snip]

Why are you so hung up about this?

because the virus problem is as much a social problem as it is a
technological problem... and i always get hung up on people being part
of the problem...

 

[Norman L. DeForest]

Reminds me of a old Maxwell Smart program where Max busts up a spy
ring associated with a Chinese laundry. At the end he says, "Yes
chief, it turned out that the spy ring was just a front. The real
money was in the laundry business".

Thanks for posting that. It gives me another idea for the WBSSL[1]
"website".

[1] Non-existant so far on my website but I'm working on it. See the
anti-phishing section of my website to find out what WBSSL stands for,
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/Links.Money.html#phishy1
Inspired by an RBC phone-droid who told me that it would not only be
a crime for me to use bank logos to demonstrate how phishers trick
people into thinking a link to http://www.scammers-site.ru/ is going
to http://www.rbc.com/ but also a criminal offence for me to use fake,
fictional logos (and indicated as such) for such example purposes.
"You'll go to jail." Wish me luck in my new life of crime.

 

[What's in a Name?]

Providing virus samples carelessly would be attaching viral files
to a usenet post in these NG's.

no, that's just *another* way of providing them carelessly...
there's a broad range of carelessness and both your actions and
this fall into that category...

[snip]

Why are you so hung up about this?

because the virus problem is as much a social problem as it is a
technological problem... and i always get hung up on people being
part of the problem...

I am trying to be a part of the solution.
-max
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[kurt wismer]

kurt wismer <[email protected]> after much thought,came up with [snip]

because the virus problem is as much a social problem as it is a
technological problem... and i always get hung up on people being
part of the problem...

I am trying to be a part of the solution.

that may be your intention, but as they say the road to hell is paved
with good intentions...

since you've been around for a while i guess you've probably already
read this
http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com/2004/12/viruses-and-disclosure.html

basically don't give samples to people unless you know them well enough
to be sure you can trust them and don't ask for samples from people
unless they know you well enough that you can expect to be trusted...

further, consider that outsiders have no way of knowing what kind of
relationship you have with the people you request samples from, that
they don't need to know that you're exchanging samples with someone, and
that if you really do have a good trusting relationship with the person
it should be trivial to do your exchange in private rather than in public...