New Sempron user question

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StoneyStude

Hi,

This AM, I started on building my new system with an Asus K8 MB and a
Sempron 3100. Going over the instructions on installing the CPU, it
states you must "use the correct thermal transfer medium or damage to
the processor will result".
The only things in the box were the CPU and the heat sink and fan and
no indication, that anything else is supplied.
On the AMD website, it mentions a heat transfer pad and on the
underside of the heat sink there's a small square of grey 'something".
It looks like tape, but it appears to be too thin to be any kind of heat
transfer agent. No confirmation of what this, is anywhere on the box or
instructions.
Am I supposed to go out and buy a tube of some kind of gel to use on
the processor? If so, any suggestions what? thanx
 
C

Cal Vanize

StoneyStude said:
Hi,

This AM, I started on building my new system with an Asus K8 MB and a
Sempron 3100. Going over the instructions on installing the CPU, it
states you must "use the correct thermal transfer medium or damage to
the processor will result".
The only things in the box were the CPU and the heat sink and fan and
no indication, that anything else is supplied.
On the AMD website, it mentions a heat transfer pad and on the
underside of the heat sink there's a small square of grey 'something".
It looks like tape, but it appears to be too thin to be any kind of heat
transfer agent. No confirmation of what this, is anywhere on the box or
instructions.
Am I supposed to go out and buy a tube of some kind of gel to use on
the processor? If so, any suggestions what? thanx


The AMD heat sink has the heat transfer medium built on to the mating
surface. Its that small patch of grey material. To properly use the
heatsink, remove the protective cover and put the heat sink on the CPU
per the AMD instructions and the instructions that come with the MB.
The material on the heatsink is most adequate and up to the job of heat
transfer. The issue most people have with that heat sink is that once
cured, the heat conductive material sticks firmly to the CPU. If one
tries to remove the heatsink, they also yank the CPU out of the socket.
I'm not sure if anyone has a remedy for the problem (maybe "grease"
the CPU before installation?), but its a well-known issue.
 
N

nos1eep

It is further alleged that on or about Mon, 26 Dec 2005 10:45:39
-0600, in alt.comp.hardware.amd.x86-64, The queezy keyboard of Cal
Vanize <[email protected]> spewed the following:

|
|
|StoneyStude wrote:
|
|> Hi,
|>
|> This AM, I started on building my new system with an Asus K8 MB and a
|> Sempron 3100. Going over the instructions on installing the CPU, it
|> states you must "use the correct thermal transfer medium or damage to
|> the processor will result".
|> The only things in the box were the CPU and the heat sink and fan and
|> no indication, that anything else is supplied.
|> On the AMD website, it mentions a heat transfer pad and on the
|> underside of the heat sink there's a small square of grey 'something".
|> It looks like tape, but it appears to be too thin to be any kind of heat
|> transfer agent. No confirmation of what this, is anywhere on the box or
|> instructions.
|> Am I supposed to go out and buy a tube of some kind of gel to use on
|> the processor? If so, any suggestions what? thanx
|
|
|The AMD heat sink has the heat transfer medium built on to the mating
|surface. Its that small patch of grey material. To properly use the
|heatsink, remove the protective cover and put the heat sink on the CPU
|per the AMD instructions and the instructions that come with the MB.
|The material on the heatsink is most adequate and up to the job of heat
|transfer. The issue most people have with that heat sink is that once
|cured, the heat conductive material sticks firmly to the CPU. If one
|tries to remove the heatsink, they also yank the CPU out of the socket.
| I'm not sure if anyone has a remedy for the problem (maybe "grease"
|the CPU before installation?), but its a well-known issue.
|
|

Be sure you take the protective cover off the tape. The temperature or
the CPU will run a little on the high side, untill it is "burned-in".

If there is a computer store in your locality, a better alternative
would be Artic Siver paste, it does not have quite the adhesiveness of
tape. You would have to remove the tape from the heatsink with some
alcohol before applying the paste.
--

-nos1eep

Scaling up the heights of folly.
non est ponenda pluritas sine necessitate
 
S

StoneyStude

nos1eep said:
It is further alleged that on or about Mon, 26 Dec 2005 10:45:39
-0600, in alt.comp.hardware.amd.x86-64, The queezy keyboard of Cal
Vanize <[email protected]> spewed the following:

|
|
|StoneyStude wrote:
|
|> Hi,
|>
|> This AM, I started on building my new system with an Asus K8 MB and a
|> Sempron 3100. Going over the instructions on installing the CPU, it
|> states you must "use the correct thermal transfer medium or damage to
|> the processor will result".
|> The only things in the box were the CPU and the heat sink and fan and
|> no indication, that anything else is supplied.
|> On the AMD website, it mentions a heat transfer pad and on the
|> underside of the heat sink there's a small square of grey 'something".
|> It looks like tape, but it appears to be too thin to be any kind of heat
|> transfer agent. No confirmation of what this, is anywhere on the box or
|> instructions.
|> Am I supposed to go out and buy a tube of some kind of gel to use on
|> the processor? If so, any suggestions what? thanx
|
|
|The AMD heat sink has the heat transfer medium built on to the mating
|surface. Its that small patch of grey material. To properly use the
|heatsink, remove the protective cover and put the heat sink on the CPU
|per the AMD instructions and the instructions that come with the MB.
|The material on the heatsink is most adequate and up to the job of heat
|transfer. The issue most people have with that heat sink is that once
|cured, the heat conductive material sticks firmly to the CPU. If one
|tries to remove the heatsink, they also yank the CPU out of the socket.
| I'm not sure if anyone has a remedy for the problem (maybe "grease"
|the CPU before installation?), but its a well-known issue.
|
|

Be sure you take the protective cover off the tape. The temperature or
the CPU will run a little on the high side, untill it is "burned-in".

If there is a computer store in your locality, a better alternative
would be Artic Siver paste, it does not have quite the adhesiveness of
tape. You would have to remove the tape from the heatsink with some
alcohol before applying the paste.
--

-nos1eep

Scaling up the heights of folly.
non est ponenda pluritas sine necessitate
Many thanks
 
S

StoneyStude

Cal said:
The AMD heat sink has the heat transfer medium built on to the mating
surface. Its that small patch of grey material. To properly use the
heatsink, remove the protective cover and put the heat sink on the CPU
per the AMD instructions and the instructions that come with the MB. The
material on the heatsink is most adequate and up to the job of heat
transfer. The issue most people have with that heat sink is that once
cured, the heat conductive material sticks firmly to the CPU. If one
tries to remove the heatsink, they also yank the CPU out of the socket.
I'm not sure if anyone has a remedy for the problem (maybe "grease" the
CPU before installation?), but its a well-known issue.
Many thanks
 
E

Ed Light

I suggest Ceramique by Arctic Silver. The instructions, including how to
clean off the AMD grey stuff, are on the AS web site. A little tube is about
$5.

The nice things about Ceramique are it's so easy to put on, and I'm sure it
comes off easily, like the previous Arctic Alumina.

You don't have to spread Ceramique, so you don't have to worry about the
thickness. You put on a tiny dot and let it squish out when you put on the
heatsink, and rotate the heatsink a couple of degress each way to rub it in.

It _will_ take some hours to come into its full performance.

There will be lots left in the little tube. They say to store it vertically,
plunger up.
--
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Ed Light

Doug Lynn said:
Hi, any phase change thermal pad is usually superior to any thermal paste.
But with Athlon64 or Opteron is not necessary, thermal paste will do.

Some of those pads leave a residue like epoxy when you take off the
heatsink. It's no fun to get off.


--
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Doug Lynn

Hi, any phase change thermal pad is usually superior to any thermal paste.
But with Athlon64 or Opteron is not necessary, thermal paste will do. The
phase change pad can transfer more heat faster due to the changed from solid
to liquid. Also a copper based heatsink is better too.

doug
www.lynncomp.com
 

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