New Rule of Thumb

[Smowk]

Came to this conclusion last night...a real good rule of thumb:

Belkin is Broken



4 out of 6 belkin hubs installed at the holiday inn i work
for...mysteriously broken...just stop working after a few months...one at a
time just goes out. Installing a netgear works perfectly.

2 different belkin routers, each at different locations...mysteriously stop
routing. dhcp works, internal network traffic works...but ping yahoo.com
or msn.com...nothing. restored factory default settings...nothing.
upgrade firmware...nothing. install linksys...everything

so remember guys

BELKIN IS BROKEN



smowk

 

[Herb Martin]

I am not a great fan of Belkin but I have my issues
with NetGear and maybe even more with LinkSys
(I buy mostly NetGear if they make what I want.)

4 out of 6 belkin hubs installed at the holiday inn i work
for...mysteriously broken...just stop working after a few months...one at a
time just goes out. Installing a netgear works perfectly.

Could be, but they might be different types of
hubs or even bad cabling (that got change accidentally
at the same time).

2 different belkin routers, each at different locations...mysteriously stop
routing. dhcp works, internal network traffic works...but ping yahoo.com
or msn.com...nothing. restored factory default settings...nothing.
upgrade firmware...nothing. install linksys...everything

A ping failure without understanding it or even
trying tracert is not sufficiently specific to blame
anything.

 

[Smowk]

Could be, but they might be different types of
hubs or even bad cabling (that got change accidentally
at the same time).

nope...I'M the only one who messes with the hubs or cabling, and nothing
was changed

A ping failure without understanding it or even
trying tracert is not sufficiently specific to blame
anything.

when you cant ping the computer next to you, dhcp or not, usually means
belkin is broken.

 

[Phillip Windell]

nope...I'M the only one who messes with the hubs or cabling, and nothing
was changed


when you cant ping the computer next to you, dhcp or not, usually means
belkin is broken.

Generally yes, but that is not a absolute. Personal Firewalls, bad cables,
bad Nic in the target machine can all stop the ping without it being the
belkin device.

[ppssst! still speaking to me, Herb? , it's ok,...be cool]

 

[Roland Hall]

: Came to this conclusion last night...a real good rule of thumb:
:
: Belkin is Broken
:
: 4 out of 6 belkin hubs installed at the holiday inn i work
: for...mysteriously broken...just stop working after a few months...one at
a
: time just goes out. Installing a netgear works perfectly.
:
: 2 different belkin routers, each at different locations...mysteriously
stop
: routing. dhcp works, internal network traffic works...but ping yahoo.com
: or msn.com...nothing. restored factory default settings...nothing.
: upgrade firmware...nothing. install linksys...everything
:
: so remember guys
:
: BELKIN IS BROKEN

So, you've had some bad luck and now all Belkin products are broken? Is
that how it works?
FYI.. Belkin is the only thing I've had work reliably without incident,
EVER!
http://hyperdictionary.com/search.aspx?define=libel

I use them to prop open doors, block the wheels of my car from rolling down
hill, level the table by putting one under one of the legs, as a drain plug
in the bathtub and as a booster seat for my kids at the kitchen table. So
don't tell me they're broken because you're just scaring my kids and now
both my wives are yelling at me!

 

[Roland Hall]

: : > : >
: > > Could be, but they might be different types of
: > > hubs or even bad cabling (that got change accidentally
: > > at the same time).
: >
: > nope...I'M the only one who messes with the hubs or cabling, and nothing
: > was changed
: >
: > > A ping failure without understanding it or even
: > > trying tracert is not sufficiently specific to blame
: > > anything.
: >
: > when you cant ping the computer next to you, dhcp or not, usually means
: > belkin is broken.
:
: Generally yes, but that is not a absolute. Personal Firewalls, bad cables,
: bad Nic in the target machine can all stop the ping without it being the
: belkin device.
:
: [ppssst! still speaking to me, Herb? , it's ok,...be cool]

Doesn't look like it but he's probably speaking about you quite a bit, and
using adjectives!

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[Roland Hall]

: :
: > Could be, but they might be different types of
: > hubs or even bad cabling (that got change accidentally
: > at the same time).
:
: nope...I'M the only one who messes with the hubs or cabling, and nothing
: was changed

messes with? Is that an industry term?

: > A ping failure without understanding it or even
: > trying tracert is not sufficiently specific to blame
: > anything.

Considering a personal firewall will block ping and tracert...

: when you cant ping the computer next to you, dhcp or not, usually means
: belkin is broken.

It means you can't ping for some reason. That is not an absolute.
If you're just throwing these old Belkin routers away, please send them to
me. I'll use them or sell them on e-Bay. [New router! - Still in the box! -
only $10 over list price! - goin' fast!]

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[Herb Martin]

[ppssst! still speaking to me, Herb? , it's ok,...be cool]

Of course -- I am even surprised to find the question.

I drop topics when they get boring or fruitless,
not people.

You should see the crazies I answer in some of the
'policitcal' groups. <grin>

And I always do so without resorting to profanity <grin>

--
Herb Martin

nope...I'M the only one who messes with the hubs or cabling, and nothing
was changed


when you cant ping the computer next to you, dhcp or not, usually means
belkin is broken.

Generally yes, but that is not a absolute. Personal Firewalls, bad cables,
bad Nic in the target machine can all stop the ping without it being the
belkin device.

[ppssst! still speaking to me, Herb? , it's ok,...be cool]

 

[Smowk]

Generally yes, but that is not a absolute. Personal Firewalls, bad
cables, bad Nic in the target machine can all stop the ping without it
being the belkin device.

[ppssst! still speaking to me, Herb? , it's ok,...be cool]

the cables were the same, the nics were the same, the computers were the
same

belkin broken
linksys working

tried again

belkin broken
linksys working

tried again

belkin broken
linksys working

tried again

belkin broken
linksys working

tried again

belkin broken
linksys working

tried again

belkin broken
linksys working

tried again

belkin broken
linksys working


hmmmm...maybe the belkin does work

 

[Smowk]

: :
: > Could be, but they might be different types of
: > hubs or even bad cabling (that got change accidentally
: > at the same time).
:
: nope...I'M the only one who messes with the hubs or cabling, and
: nothing was changed

messes with? Is that an industry term?

you know what the fuk i'm talking about retard

: > A ping failure without understanding it or even
: > trying tracert is not sufficiently specific to blame
: > anything.

Considering a personal firewall will block ping and tracert...

: when you cant ping the computer next to you, dhcp or not, usually
: means belkin is broken.

It means you can't ping for some reason. That is not an absolute.
If you're just throwing these old Belkin routers away, please send
them to me. I'll use them or sell them on e-Bay. [New router! - Still
in the box! - only $10 over list price! - goin' fast!]

when you replace the belkin with a different router and it works
fine...usually means belkin is broken

especially when your not a retard like the rest of us

 

[Roland Hall]

in message
: :
: > : >: : >:
: >: > Could be, but they might be different types of
: >: > hubs or even bad cabling (that got change accidentally
: >: > at the same time).
: >:
: >: nope...I'M the only one who messes with the hubs or cabling, and
: >: nothing was changed
: >
: > messes with? Is that an industry term?
:
: you know what the fuk i'm talking about retard

Do you always respond to humor with insults?

: >: > A ping failure without understanding it or even
: >: > trying tracert is not sufficiently specific to blame
: >: > anything.
: >
: > Considering a personal firewall will block ping and tracert...
: >
: >: when you cant ping the computer next to you, dhcp or not, usually
: >: means belkin is broken.
: >
: > It means you can't ping for some reason. That is not an absolute.
: > If you're just throwing these old Belkin routers away, please send
: > them to me. I'll use them or sell them on e-Bay. [New router! - Still
: > in the box! - only $10 over list price! - goin' fast!]
: >
:
: when you replace the belkin with a different router and it works
: fine...usually means belkin is broken

No, it does not. And, I'm serious, if you're just throwing them away, I'll
take them. I'm using Belkin right now. It's almost 3 years old and has
never had a problem. Linksys is a lot better than it used to be 2-3 years
ago. NetGear, IMHO, has always had issues. But, what the Hell do I know,
I'm retarded.

: especially when your not a retard like the rest of us

You are the others are retards? You may not have a lot of followers re:
that statement.
If you're going to respond as you have done, it works better when your
insults are a little more creative.

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[Smowk]

You are the others are retards? You may not have a lot of followers
re: that statement.
If you're going to respond as you have done, it works better when your
insults are a little more creative.

lol, see what happens when you drink a whole bottle of rum and start having
fun in usenet

i really dont think these belkin work bro, had 2 friends over last night
who between them have mcse, mcsa, and a few cisco certifications.

both said...belkin is broken

shitty

 

[Phillip Windell]

[ppssst! still speaking to me, Herb? , it's ok,...be cool]

Of course -- I am even surprised to find the question.

Just wanting to make sure. I've had a "spell" of everyone being ticked at me
for one thing or another lately.

You should see the crazies I answer in some of the
'policitcal' groups. <grin>

You should see the trouble I get in for being "political" in the groups over
what I considered a "playful side-comment". See the thread "Did
Anti-spyware Vendor Cave In?" over in the "ms.public.security group".

 

[Phillip Windell]

: >: nope...I'M the only one who messes with the hubs or cabling, and
: >: nothing was changed
: >
: > messes with? Is that an industry term?
:
: you know what the fuk i'm talking about retard

Do you always respond to humor with insults?

Ok,...Now I feel better
It isn't just me,...I'm not the only one "getting it". I can sleep now ;-)

 

[Herb Martin]

You should see the trouble I get in for being "political" in the groups over
what I considered a "playful side-comment". See the thread "Did
Anti-spyware Vendor Cave In?" over in the "ms.public.security group".

Naught <grin>

--
Herb Martin

[ppssst! still speaking to me, Herb? , it's ok,...be cool]

Of course -- I am even surprised to find the question.

Just wanting to make sure. I've had a "spell" of everyone being ticked at me
for one thing or another lately.

You should see the crazies I answer in some of the
'policitcal' groups. <grin>

You should see the trouble I get in for being "political" in the groups over
what I considered a "playful side-comment". See the thread "Did
Anti-spyware Vendor Cave In?" over in the "ms.public.security group".

 

[Roland Hall]

: : > : >: nope...I'M the only one who messes with the hubs or cabling, and
: > : >: nothing was changed
: > : >
: > : > messes with? Is that an industry term?
: > :
: > : you know what the fuk i'm talking about retard
: >
: > Do you always respond to humor with insults?
:
: Ok,...Now I feel better
: It isn't just me,...I'm not the only one "getting it". I can sleep now
;-)

That's alright Phillip. I'll set you up. You're a marked man!

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[Roland Hall]

in message
: :
:
: > You are the others are retards? You may not have a lot of followers
: > re: that statement.
: > If you're going to respond as you have done, it works better when your
: > insults are a little more creative.
: >
:
: lol, see what happens when you drink a whole bottle of rum and start
having
: fun in usenet

I'm surprised you could focus after that.

: i really dont think these belkin work bro, had 2 friends over last night
: who between them have mcse, mcsa, and a few cisco certifications.
:
: both said...belkin is broken

I have a few certs myself. Perhaps our experiences have been different and
its not a significant amount to know either way with any vendor. Or,
perhaps it's just the rum and not Belkin at all? Do you guys drink rum only
when working with Belkin? There could be a clue there somewhere. OMG! I'm
having a 10-9er day. Type 10, erase 9. I gotta' get some sleep and I don't
drink!

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