Networking home computers

[Guest]

Ok, let me start by admitting I am not very knowledgable about the
intricacies of network setups.

Here's what I'm trying to do: I have 2 computers at home: a desktop using
Win 98 SE and a laptop using Win XP Home SP2. I have them both connecting to
a Linksys wireless g broadband router/access point, and also have a dsl modem
connecting to my router. Both machines can access the internet fine, so I
know they are both communicating with my router. Also, the desktop (win 98)
machine is hard-wired to my router. The laptop (win xp) machine connects via
wireless connection.

So, what I want to accomplish is to be able to share resources (drives,
printers, etc) between the 2 machines. I do have file and printer sharing
enabled in the network setups for each machine. And have them under same
workgroup name.

However, on win 98 machine, I can browse through network, access my
workgroup, then only sees itself (doesn't see my other machine). From
laptop, I browse through network, and when I try to access the workgroup, it
tells me I don't have access. I am logged on as an administrative user.

Any advice? I'm sure there is just something I don't have set up
right...but don't know what else to try.

 

[Richard G. Harper]

If the Windows Firewall is on the XP computer, turn it off while
troubleshooting the network. If the Windows 98 computer has a firewall,
uninstall (not disable) it while troubleshooting.

Have you run the Network Setup Wizard on the XP computer? If so, did you
make the floppy disk to run on the Windows 98 computer and run it there?

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[Guest]

I did run the network setup on both the xp machine and then the win 98
machine. Maybe I didn't choose the right options, though. Once I did that,
it added an "internet gateway" to each of the machines? Do you have any
advice as to what options I should select during that wizard?

I hadn't thought about the firewall....I'll give that a try.

If the Windows Firewall is on the XP computer, turn it off while
troubleshooting the network. If the Windows 98 computer has a firewall,
uninstall (not disable) it while troubleshooting.

Have you run the Network Setup Wizard on the XP computer? If so, did you
make the floppy disk to run on the Windows 98 computer and run it there?

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Ok, let me start by admitting I am not very knowledgable about the
intricacies of network setups.

Here's what I'm trying to do: I have 2 computers at home: a desktop using
Win 98 SE and a laptop using Win XP Home SP2. I have them both connecting
to
a Linksys wireless g broadband router/access point, and also have a dsl
modem
connecting to my router. Both machines can access the internet fine, so I
know they are both communicating with my router. Also, the desktop (win
98)
machine is hard-wired to my router. The laptop (win xp) machine connects
via
wireless connection.

So, what I want to accomplish is to be able to share resources (drives,
printers, etc) between the 2 machines. I do have file and printer sharing
enabled in the network setups for each machine. And have them under same
workgroup name.

However, on win 98 machine, I can browse through network, access my
workgroup, then only sees itself (doesn't see my other machine). From
laptop, I browse through network, and when I try to access the workgroup,
it
tells me I don't have access. I am logged on as an administrative user.

Any advice? I'm sure there is just something I don't have set up
right...but don't know what else to try.

 

[Guest]

On your XP SP_2 machine check the Windows Firewall, if there is any Firewall
active on your 98 machine I would suggest uninstalling it. Your DSL Modem
should have a Firewall active on it anyways. If you set up your Network
Wizard correct it sounds like a Firewall problem.

Hope this helps......
--
The Saint
MCP, MCDST

I did run the network setup on both the xp machine and then the win 98
machine. Maybe I didn't choose the right options, though. Once I did that,
it added an "internet gateway" to each of the machines? Do you have any
advice as to what options I should select during that wizard?

I hadn't thought about the firewall....I'll give that a try.

If the Windows Firewall is on the XP computer, turn it off while
troubleshooting the network. If the Windows 98 computer has a firewall,
uninstall (not disable) it while troubleshooting.

Have you run the Network Setup Wizard on the XP computer? If so, did you
make the floppy disk to run on the Windows 98 computer and run it there?

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Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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Ok, let me start by admitting I am not very knowledgable about the
intricacies of network setups.

Here's what I'm trying to do: I have 2 computers at home: a desktop using
Win 98 SE and a laptop using Win XP Home SP2. I have them both connecting
to
a Linksys wireless g broadband router/access point, and also have a dsl
modem
connecting to my router. Both machines can access the internet fine, so I
know they are both communicating with my router. Also, the desktop (win
98)
machine is hard-wired to my router. The laptop (win xp) machine connects
via
wireless connection.

So, what I want to accomplish is to be able to share resources (drives,
printers, etc) between the 2 machines. I do have file and printer sharing
enabled in the network setups for each machine. And have them under same
workgroup name.

However, on win 98 machine, I can browse through network, access my
workgroup, then only sees itself (doesn't see my other machine). From
laptop, I browse through network, and when I try to access the workgroup,
it
tells me I don't have access. I am logged on as an administrative user.

Any advice? I'm sure there is just something I don't have set up
right...but don't know what else to try.

 

[Chuck]

On your XP SP_2 machine check the Windows Firewall, if there is any Firewall
active on your 98 machine I would suggest uninstalling it. Your DSL Modem
should have a Firewall active on it anyways. If you set up your Network
Wizard correct it sounds like a Firewall problem.

If your DSL modem is part of a Modem-Router combined unit, the NAT Router
portion of it will provide you with limited protection, from Internet traffic.
Some NAT Routers also contain limited firewall functionality, again protecting
the computers on the LAN from the Internet.

Please:
# Do not confuse firewalls and NAT routers.
# Do not confuse modems and NAT routers.
# Do not confuse protection from the Internet with protection from other
computers on the LAN. Layered protection is a must.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html#Layer2>

 

[Richard G. Harper]

Not knowing how your network is set up, it's hard for me to say what choices
you should make during the wizard process. Generally speaking common-sense
will tell you which choices to make, and then the disk makes the same
choices on the Win98 box - so no problem there.

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I did run the network setup on both the xp machine and then the win 98
machine. Maybe I didn't choose the right options, though. Once I did
that,
it added an "internet gateway" to each of the machines? Do you have any
advice as to what options I should select during that wizard?

I hadn't thought about the firewall....I'll give that a try.

If the Windows Firewall is on the XP computer, turn it off while
troubleshooting the network. If the Windows 98 computer has a firewall,
uninstall (not disable) it while troubleshooting.

Have you run the Network Setup Wizard on the XP computer? If so, did you
make the floppy disk to run on the Windows 98 computer and run it there?

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Ok, let me start by admitting I am not very knowledgable about the
intricacies of network setups.

Here's what I'm trying to do: I have 2 computers at home: a desktop
using
Win 98 SE and a laptop using Win XP Home SP2. I have them both
connecting
to
a Linksys wireless g broadband router/access point, and also have a dsl
modem
connecting to my router. Both machines can access the internet fine,
so I
know they are both communicating with my router. Also, the desktop
(win
98)
machine is hard-wired to my router. The laptop (win xp) machine
connects
via
wireless connection.

So, what I want to accomplish is to be able to share resources (drives,
printers, etc) between the 2 machines. I do have file and printer
sharing
enabled in the network setups for each machine. And have them under
same
workgroup name.

However, on win 98 machine, I can browse through network, access my
workgroup, then only sees itself (doesn't see my other machine). From
laptop, I browse through network, and when I try to access the
workgroup,
it
tells me I don't have access. I am logged on as an administrative
user.

Any advice? I'm sure there is just something I don't have set up
right...but don't know what else to try.

 

[N. Miller]

Your DSL Modem should have a Firewall active on it anyways.

I haven't seen a DSL modem with a firewall. I know there are a couple out
there, but I haven't seen them. My old Westell WireSpeed B90-36R516 rev.G
was a briged modem, not even performing NAT. My new SpeedStream 4100 is a
one-to-one NAT router, with the one private IP address acting like a DMZ.
No firewall in either case.

 

[N. Miller]

I did run the network setup on both the xp machine and then the win 98
machine. Maybe I didn't choose the right options, though. Once I did that,
it added an "internet gateway" to each of the machines? Do you have any
advice as to what options I should select during that wizard?

You don't want an Internet Gateway on either machine. That is an ICS
setting, which makes that computer a gateway to the Internet. Your Linksys
router (WRT54G? WRT54GS?) is the gateway, so you shouldn't have any other
gateway.

I hadn't thought about the firewall....I'll give that a try.

The Linksys WRT54G/GS is a one-to-many NAT router which drops unsolicited
packets, so it functions as an effective firewall for practical purposes.
In this case, you can safely disable the Windows firewall for your testing.

However, you may have a browse master conflict. I am not sure it Windwos 98
is affected, but Windows ME will fight with Windows XP to be the LAN browse
master. Sometimes, in a mixed LAN, it is better to turn off browse master
on the Windows ME computers. As I said, that may, or may not be an issue
with Windows 98.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

You don't want an Internet Gateway on either machine. That is an ICS
setting, which makes that computer a gateway to the Internet. Your Linksys
router (WRT54G? WRT54GS?) is the gateway, so you shouldn't have any other
gateway.

Yes, he should have an Internet Gateway on both computers.

The Internet Gateway doesn't mean that ICS is enabled on a computer.
In fact, it doesn't appear on an ICS host.

The Internet Gateway represents an Internet sharing device elsewhere
on the network, such as an ICS host or a home broadband router.
Clicking the Internet Gateway icon lets you monitor and control the
operation of the ICS host or router.
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