Network XP Home to W98 local network

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Guest

Have a local network working with 2 W98 systems and one Windows XP/SP2
system. Have a new XP Home computer SP2. The new XP can see the other
computers on the network (and access the shared files). However, none of them
can see the new XP system. I have turned off MS firewall and spyware program.
In Firewall, I have enabled "local network". When I try to access the new XP,
it shows up in the network neighborhood without the shared files. When I
click on the name, I get either (depending on whether firewall is on or off
on the new XP) "\\xxx is not accessible The computer or sharename could not
be found. Make sure you typed...... " OR \\xxx is not accessible. The
requested API isn't supported on the remote server.

I cannot see any difference in the network setup between the old and new XP
Home computers.

Any ideas what I can try or check??

Thanks, Bob
 
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Guest

W98 runs on FAT32 file system,xp runs in ntfs,ntfs can read FAT32,however
FAT32 cannot read ntfs.
 
G

Guest

If this is the problem, why does it work with the existing computer with XP
Home and not the new one. Both of the XP's have ntfs and both of the W98
computers are FAT32.
 
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WTC

Andrew E. said:
W98 runs on FAT32 file system,xp runs in ntfs,ntfs can read
FAT32,however
FAT32 cannot read ntfs.

Not True, the filing systems between networked machine does not matter.
 
W

WTC

Bob S. said:
Have a local network working with 2 W98 systems and one Windows XP/SP2
system. Have a new XP Home computer SP2. The new XP can see the other
computers on the network (and access the shared files). However, none
of them
can see the new XP system. I have turned off MS firewall and spyware
program.
In Firewall, I have enabled "local network". When I try to access the
new XP,
it shows up in the network neighborhood without the shared files. When
I
click on the name, I get either (depending on whether firewall is on
or off
on the new XP) "\\xxx is not accessible The computer or sharename
could not
be found. Make sure you typed...... " OR \\xxx is not accessible. The
requested API isn't supported on the remote server.

I cannot see any difference in the network setup between the old and
new XP
Home computers.

Any ideas what I can try or check??

Have tried the Networking Wizard in XP? At the end of the wizard, there
will be an option to create a networking wizard disk to run on the 98
systems.
 
G

Guest

I've used the Wizard (several times) and also used the network wizard disk on
one of the W98 computers. Didn't see any difference (couldn't tell that it
changed anything on the properties/identification screens).
 
W

WTC

You should check the following newsgroup that deals with these types of
problems.

news://news.microsoft,com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
 
W

WTC

I am sorry, I gave you the incorrect link. (There was an error in the
link)

news://news.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Andrew said:
W98 runs on FAT32 file system,xp runs in ntfs,ntfs can read FAT32,however
FAT32 cannot read ntfs.

Completely irrelevant. Can you even spell "PC?" This has got to be
your stupidest response, yet.

The file systems on the various computers communicating over a network
are completely irrelevant, as none of the individual computers'
operating systems ever directly access the other computers' hard drives.
Instead, a computer sends a "request," if you will, for the desired
data, and the operating system of the host ("receiving") computer
accesses its own hard drive (whose file system it obviously can read)
and then sends that data back to the requesting computer as neutral
packets of information that are completely independent of the file
systems on the respective computers. After all, don't you use a
Windows-based PC (whether it's FAT32 or NTFS) to access data stored on
the Internet's mostly Unix servers, which use a completely different
file system?


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Bruce Chambers

Bob said:
Have a local network working with 2 W98 systems and one Windows XP/SP2
system. Have a new XP Home computer SP2. The new XP can see the other
computers on the network (and access the shared files). However, none of them
can see the new XP system. I have turned off MS firewall and spyware program.
In Firewall, I have enabled "local network". When I try to access the new XP,
it shows up in the network neighborhood without the shared files. When I
click on the name, I get either (depending on whether firewall is on or off
on the new XP) "\\xxx is not accessible The computer or sharename could not
be found. Make sure you typed...... " OR \\xxx is not accessible. The
requested API isn't supported on the remote server.

I cannot see any difference in the network setup between the old and new XP
Home computers.

Any ideas what I can try or check??

Thanks, Bob


On the WinXP PC, create local user account(s), with password(s),
that have the desired access privileges to the desired shares. Log on
to the other PCs using those account(s), and you will be able to
access the designated shares, provided your network is configured
properly. Also, make sure that WinXP's built-in firewall
is disabled on the internal LAN connection.

Usually, WinXP's Networking Wizard makes it simple and painless --
almost entirely automatic, in fact. There's a lot of useful,
easy-to-follow information in WinXP's Help & Support files, and here:

Home Networking
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/howto/homenet/default.asp

Networking Information
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking.htm

PracticallyNetworked Home
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/index.htm

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm


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Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
 
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Ron Martell

Andrew E. said:
W98 runs on FAT32 file system,xp runs in ntfs,ntfs can read FAT32,however
FAT32 cannot read ntfs.

Totally incorrect. In a network situation all file access is handled
by the computer on which the files are located, so a Windows 98
computer can access files on an NTFS drive on a computer running
Windows XP with zero problems.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
 
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Guest

No problem pinging any computer on network... all show 192.168.0.x Restored
back to when first loaded sp2 and did initial windows update. All computers
could communicate ok, except new XP took awhile to reply. Next day when I
started up new XP, was back to same problem. XP can see other XP's and W98's
on network. If I search for computer by name, it does find the new XP but
faded out (I assume that is no priveleges).

Appears problem reoccurred after some additional Windows updates. I have
never had to set up special accounts, logins, etc before for the mixture of
XP and W98 computers (in fact, wizard on first XP system did great job of
connecting - both ways- with computers on network.

Guess it's back to starting over with restore disk, maybe using wizard
before any updates or SP2 upgrade and then hope Windows updates doesn't
"break it" again. The other XP has all windows updates, although network was
working before upgraded to SP2 and later updates. Still worked after the
updates.

It appears to definently be a login in problem over the network though
 
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FireDoc

Hey Bob - I've had this problem since XPhe came out - I'm using six
win98se computers (four on cables - two wireless) and four winXPhe SP1
computers (three on cables - one wireless [Laptop]) on a wireless
router and two switches with two printers and one plotter. File/print
sharing is the utmost priority with security inplace. The processes
involved to allow communications across a network of multiple OS's on a
CONSISTANT basis is not difficult, but it does require your patience and
lots of time to tune it up. If you would like to establish file and
print sharing, mapping drives across your network and protocol security
- It can be done with much success. Using this forum is ok - but I would
prefer a more direct path to communicate with you. Let me know how you
would like for me to get in touch with you.

FireDoc
 
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Guest

You can contact me directly at this address: (e-mail address removed)

I can reload everything if need to or just drop back to a state where I did
initial computer startup, installed SP2 before doing any Windows update and
then turned Windows update loose.

Since I have no problem reliably communicating/sharing etc between my other
XPhe system with the W98 computer and all I did on it was use wizard to set
it up, it makes this problem confusing (and frustrating).

Bob
 

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