Network access to "Program Files"

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Zboing Mouflon

Is there a way to access the "Program Files" directory on my XP laptop (and
for that matter all of the other "out of bounds" directories) from my
networked ME machine?

It is typical Windows that the default directory for loading all my
programmes (and therefore all the data I want to back up to my other
machine) is protected by XP's stupid paranoid "security" features.

Grrrr.

ZM
 
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BobC

Is there a way to access the "Program Files" directory on my XP laptop (and
for that matter all of the other "out of bounds" directories) from my
networked ME machine?

It is typical Windows that the default directory for loading all my
programmes (and therefore all the data I want to back up to my other
machine) is protected by XP's stupid paranoid "security" features.

Grrrr.

ZM

Turn off simple file sharing and then share any directory you want shared.
 
B

BobC

How do you turn off simple file sharing?

One way is in windows explorer to go to tools > folder options > view then
uncheck use simple file sharing (last menu item) then apply to all folders.
 
P

Paul

what if i dont have that checkbox...

im logged in as computer administrator...

me is very confused.

Thanks,
Paul
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

"Zboing Mouflon" said:
Is there a way to access the "Program Files" directory on my XP laptop (and
for that matter all of the other "out of bounds" directories) from my
networked ME machine?

It is typical Windows that the default directory for loading all my
programmes (and therefore all the data I want to back up to my other
machine) is protected by XP's stupid paranoid "security" features.

Grrrr.

ZM

I'm sorry, but that's how Windows XP works when it's installed on an
NTFS disk partition using "Simple File Sharing". It doesn't allow
sharing the Documents and Settings, Program Files, or Windows folders.
I don't know why Microsoft designed it that way.

You can share subfolders within those folders, e.g. you can share
"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express" and access that folder from another
computer on the network.

If you have Windows XP Professional, you can permanently disable
Simple File Sharing, which removes those sharing restrictions:

1. Open My Computer and click Tools | Folder Options | View.
2. Scroll to the end of the advanced settings.
3. Un-check "Use simple file sharing (recommended).

If you have Windows XP Home Edition, there's no easy solution. The
safest thing is to share individual subfolders, as mentioned above.

You can re-install the operating system on a FAT or FAT32 disk
partition -- those disk formats don't have any sharing restrictions.
However, that would lose the benefits of NTFS, which is more reliable
and efficient and can use larger disks. You'd also need to re-install
all of your applications.

I've heard of two possible solutions for XP Home Edition on an NTFS
disk partition. Before I give them, I want to emphasize that:

1. They're un-supported, un-documented, and un-tested.

2. There's no guarantee that they'll work.

3. They might cause data loss or corruption.

4. Microsoft and your computer manufacturer probably won't offer
technical support if they cause problems.

5. Don't blame me if they cause problems. I warned you.

If you want to try them, at your own risk:

1. Back up all of your important data first so that you can restore it
in case of problems.

2. Run System Restore to create a restore point that you can go back
to in case of problems.

OK. With those danger signs flashing and alarm bells ringing, here
they are:

1. Start Windows XP in "Safe Mode with Networking" (which temporarily
disables "Simple File Sharing"), share the desired folder(s), set the
permissions, and reboot normally, or:

2. Follow the procedure shown here:

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_home_sectab.htm
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Z

Zboing Mouflon

Nope; neither changing sharing in safe mode or individually sharing
subdirectories of "Program Files" works.

I haven't been brave enough to try
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_home_sectab.htm yet but once my son's
fourth birthday party is over I'll give it a go.

While you have to wonder about MSoft's thinking on this one, at least they
thought up System Restore; gotta love 'em for that!

ZM

DANGER DANGER DANGER:
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

"Zboing Mouflon" said:
DANGER DANGER DANGER:

Nope; neither changing sharing in safe mode or individually sharing
subdirectories of "Program Files" works.

I haven't been brave enough to try
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_home_sectab.htm yet but once my son's
fourth birthday party is over I'll give it a go.

While you have to wonder about MSoft's thinking on this one, at least they
thought up System Restore; gotta love 'em for that!

ZM

You're welcome.
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Guest

Sorry Steve, Simple File Sharing does allow you to share the Documents and Settings folder.
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

Sam said:
Sorry Steve, Simple File Sharing does allow you to share the Documents
and Settings folder.

You're right, Sam. My answer wasn't completely accurate. Thanks for
the correction.

Simple File Sharing lets you access the Documents and Settings folder
from another computer. However, it denies access to the folders of
individual users within Documents and Settings. For example, I can't
access C:\Documents and Settings\Steve over my network from another
computer.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Guest

I am also trying to share the program files folder accross a network. I have unchecked the simple file sharing box which gives me a security tab option. I have shared the folder, the folder shows up in the my network places for the other computers on the network. However when you try to access the folder it errors that permissions are not set. How can I set permissions for the network users?
 
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Guest

-----Original Message-----
You're right, Sam. My answer wasn't completely accurate. Thanks for
the correction.

Simple File Sharing lets you access the Documents and Settings folder
from another computer. However, it denies access to the folders of
individual users within Documents and Settings. For example, I can't
access C:\Documents and Settings\Steve over my network from another
computer.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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.
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

I am also trying to share the program files folder accross a network. I have unchecked the simple file sharing box which gives me a security tab option. I have shared the folder, the folder shows up in the my network places for the other computers on the network. However when you try to access the folder it errors that permissions are not set. How can I set permissions for the network users?

This web page has full details:

Windows XP Professional File Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Guest

Greetings Steve

I'm not sure if that's actually completely accurate either. I just was able to access the
following folders within the Documents and Settings folder

1. C:\Documents and Settings\Eri
2. C:\Documents and Settings\All User

Those directories I can access. The only folder I wasn't able to access was the
Administrator folder.

Can you explain this? Maybe I'm wrong? :


________________
Eri
----- Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote: ----

Sa said:
Sorry Steve, Simple File Sharing does allow you to share the Document
and Settings folder

You're right, Sam. My answer wasn't completely accurate. Thanks fo
the correction

Simple File Sharing lets you access the Documents and Settings folde
from another computer. However, it denies access to the folders o
individual users within Documents and Settings. For example, I can'
access C:\Documents and Settings\Steve over my network from anothe
computer
--
Best Wishes
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news grou
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer question
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups

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Steve Winograd [MVP]

Simple File Sharing lets you access the Documents and Settings folder
from another computer. However, it denies access to the folders of
individual users within Documents and Settings. For example, I can't
access C:\Documents and Settings\Steve over my network from another
computer.

Greetings Steve,

I'm not sure if that's actually completely accurate either. I just was able to access the
following folders within the Documents and Settings folder:

1. C:\Documents and Settings\Eric
2. C:\Documents and Settings\All Users

Those directories I can access. The only folder I wasn't able to access was the
Administrator folder.

Can you explain this? Maybe I'm wrong? :)

Hi, Eric. Those are interesting results. When I said that simple
file sharing denies access to the folders of "individual users", I
specifically meant the user names that are available, by default, for
login on the Welcome screen. That doesn't include "All Users",
"Default User", or "Guest".

I can't access "Steve" on any of my XP Home systems, and I can't
explain why you're able to access "Eric". Have you ever booted in
Safe mode and set file permissions? Did you disable and then
re-enable simple file sharing? Any other unusual file system
manipulations?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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