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[Guest]

It's stated in the System Builder licensing agreement
which spells out how an OEM license may be used.

 

[Gordon]

It's stated in the System Builder licensing agreement
which spells out how an OEM license may be used.

Which as MANY MANY people have pointed out to you Carey, the End User DOES
NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THIS!

Jeeez - try a LITTLE bit of "real life" can't you?

 

[Guest]

Q. "If I change the motor in my car it doesn't become a new car does it?"

A. No, but if you were to install a different motor, it won't start since the
original car's computer will not recognise it. In that case you would need
to install a new computer.

 

[Gordon]

Q. "If I change the motor in my car it doesn't become a new car does
it?"

A. No, but if you were to install a different motor, it won't start
since the original car's computer will not recognise it. In that
case you would need to install a new computer.

May be but it would still not be a NEW car.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Anyone who purchases a new OEM version of
Windows XP is required to comply with the System
Builders Licensing Agreement. If you don't, then
I suppose you can plead ignorance which is not
a very intelligent thing to do.

Example:

Microsoft Windows XP Professional X64 Edition 1 package - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102034

"OEM versions are intended for system builders only and cannot be transferred
to another PC once it is installed. Purchasers of this software are required to
comply with the terms of the System Builder License"
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:

| You know as well as I do that that's binding on licensed Microsoft OEMs. If
| the licensed OEMs don't always comply with it (and they don't), the end
| users can hardly be held responsible now, can they?
|
| And just how does it apply to the OEM versions that are readily available on
| the market and are used by people (like myself) who build their own
| machines?
|
| Hmm?
|
| "End of discussion" indeed.
|
| --
| Bob

 

[Alias]

From the OEM EULA:

"The SOFTWARE is licensed with the COMPUTER as a single
integrated product and may only be used with the COMPUTER. If
the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE, you may not use
the SOFTWARE."

Thus, a new motherboard constitutes a new computer,
and a new computer requires a new license since the
original license is no longer valid because the motherboard
was replaced. Simple logic you trolls cannot understand.

Have you lost your sense of logic or is it that you never had one to
begin with? What you just quoted from the EULA says NOTHING about a
change of a motherboard constituting a "new computer".

Alias

 

[Alias]

Yes, I'm listed but only visible to Microsoft
and MVPs. That is my personal preferance.
I don't want TROLLS snooping around my
personal information.

Riiiiiiiiight. And we're supposed to take your word for it? Your word
obviously means nothing when all you do is give erroneous information
and LIE about XP generic OEM.

Alias

 

[Gordon]

Anyone who purchases a new OEM version of
Windows XP is required to comply with the System
Builders Licensing Agreement. If you don't, then
I suppose you can plead ignorance which is not
a very intelligent thing to do.

So how does an End user actually SEE this "System Builders Licensing
Agreemant" then Carey?
The answer which you WELL knowe is that they CAN'T unless the OEM gives them
a copy.

Prat you are.

 

[Alias]

From the OEM EULA:

"The SOFTWARE is licensed with the COMPUTER as a single
integrated product and may only be used with the COMPUTER. If
the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE, you may not use
the SOFTWARE."

Thus, a new motherboard constitutes a new computer,
and a new computer requires a new license since the
original license is no longer valid because the motherboard
was replaced. Simple logic you trolls cannot understand.

Um, that is not addressed to or available for end users. That is only
for OEMs that are licensed through MS like Dell or HP. Why do you lie?
Why do you try and get people to buy something they don't need?

Alias

 

[Gordon]

Carey Frisch, not an MVP,

ROTFLMAO!

 

[Guest]

A copy of the System Builders Licensing Agreement
is included with the documentation you receive when
you purchase an OEM version of Windows XP.

 

[Alias]

Anyone who purchases a new OEM version of
Windows XP is required to comply with the System
Builders Licensing Agreement. If you don't, then
I suppose you can plead ignorance which is not
a very intelligent thing to do.

I would plead that I was never offered even a glimpse, much less told to
sign and agree to a Builders Licensing Agreement because I am not a
Systems Builder.

Example:

Microsoft Windows XP Professional X64 Edition 1 package - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102034

"OEM versions are intended for system builders only and cannot be transferred
to another PC once it is installed. Purchasers of this software are required to
comply with the terms of the System Builder License"
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx

Not in my EULA, the only thing I agreed to when I installed the
software. What Newegg requires is, of course, irrelevant, now isn't it?
I don't have a Systems Builder License as I don't build systems for a
living. What you quote, of course, only applies to companies like Dell
and HP but that won't stop you from lying about it and trying to scare
newbies into buying a copy of XP they don't need to buy.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Yes, I'm listed but only visible to Microsoft
and MVPs. That is my personal preferance.
I don't want TROLLS snooping around my
personal information.

Translation: Carey isn't an MVP.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Give Microsoft Licensing department a call for a
definitive answer to your question.
1-800-426-9400

Outside the US, the following page has links to local licensing sites
which include local customer service phone number
(http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.mspx)

I have a definitive answer in my EULA, the ONLY thing I agreed to upon
installation and was given upon purchase.

Alias

 

[Alias]

A copy of the System Builders Licensing Agreement
is included with the documentation you receive when
you purchase an OEM version of Windows XP.

Another lie. I just looked. My, my, and you call yourself an MVP. Oh,
and I read the Spanish System Builders License and there is no mention
of a motherboard. Oops.

Alias

 

[Guest]

An OEM Windows XP license can be compared to
an convnetional marriage license. A marriage
license is a license to marry a specific person legally.
After you get married (i.e. activated), you cannot
marry a different person unless you divorce the
person you married, then purchase a new marriage
license so you can marry the other person.

So what happens if the person you married should
sadly pass away (i.e. your motherboard). If you wish
to get legally married to another person, you'll need
to purchase a new marriage license.

Thus:

OEM license = marriage license

[or to death do us part]

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

Actually, he is ;-)
I just went to the page where he is listed.

 

[Alias]

An OEM Windows XP license can be compared to
an convnetional marriage license. A marriage
license is a license to marry a specific person legally.
After you get married (i.e. activated), you cannot
marry a different person unless you divorce the
person you married, then purchase a new marriage
license so you can marry the other person.

So what happens if the person you married should
sadly pass away (i.e. your motherboard). If you wish
to get legally married to another person, you'll need
to purchase a new marriage license.

Thus:

OEM license = marriage license

[or to death do us part]

Please keep your marital problems to yourself and stay on topic.

Thanks.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Actually, he is ;-)
I just went to the page where he is listed.

Amazing. MS must be getting desperate. At least now we know he is a he.

Alias

 

[Guest]

Just like the folks who post questions regarding
Windows XP in this Windows XP newsgroup,
you can get expert answers to OEM licensing
questions by posting to the OEM newsgroup found in:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx