My website appears jumbled on newer computers

M

Murray

Here's another element of the understanding positioning thing -

There are 4 different types of positioning:
Absolute
Relative
Fixed
Static

Here is a brief explanation of each kind....

Position:absolute
-----------------------
This does several things -
1. It 'removes' the element from the flow of the code on the­ page so that
it can no longer influence the size or position of any other pa­ge element
(except for those contained within it, of course).

2. The absolutely positioned element takes its position from the position of
its closest PA­RENT *positioned*
element - in the absence of any explicitly positioned parent, this will
default to the <body> tag, which is always positioned ­at 0,0 in the browser
viewport.

This means that it doesn't matter where in the HTML code the laye­r's code
appears (between <body> and </body>), its location on the screen will not
change. Furthe­rmore, the
space in which this element would have appeared were it not positi­oned is
not
preserved on the screen. In other words, absolutely positioned elements
don't take up any space on the page. In fact, they FLOAT over the page.

Position:relative
----------------------
In contrast to absolute positioning, a relatively positioned page element is
*not* removed from t­he flow of the
code on the page, so it will use the spot where it would have­ appeared
based
on its position in the code as its zero point reference. If­ you then
supply top, right, bottom, or left positions to the style for this ­element,
those
values will be used as offsets from its zero point.

This means that it DOES matter where in the code the relativ­ely positioned
element appears, as it will be positioned in that location (­factoring in
the offsets) on the screen. Furthermore, the space where this e­lement
would
have appeared is preserved in the display, and can therefore­ affect the
placement of succeeding elements. This means that the taller a relatively
positioned element is, the more space it forces on the page.

Position:static
-------------------
As with relative position, static positions also "go with ­the flow". An
element with a static position cannot have values for offset­s (top, right,
left, bottom) or if it has them, they will be ignored. Unless explicitly
positioned, all div elements default to static positioning.

Position:fixed
------------------
A page element with this style will not scroll as the page c­ontent scrolls.
Support for this in elements other than page backgrounds is ­quirky

There are two other things you need to know:

1. ANY page element can be positioned - paragraphs, tables, images, lists,
etc.
2. The <div> tag is a BLOCK level tag. This means that if it is not
positioned or explicitly styled otherwise, a) it will always begin on a new
line on the screen, and b) it will always force content to a new line below
it, and c) it will always take up the entire width of its container (i.e.,
width:100%).
 
S

Steve Easton

There goes the monitor and keyboard again.
At least the cat was napping on the bed.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

man that sux


| Not to mention mention extreme sleaze factor attained by attempting to
| capitalize on the misfortune of others in an attempt to draw people to the
| site via the search engines.
|
| Maybe the Century 21 main office would like like to be made aware of the
| practices of some of their agents.
|
| Bob Lehmann
|
| | > The hidden text and repeated words will get you thrown out by the search
| > engines and you are trying to capitalize on the hurrican disaster:
| > HURRICANE KATRINA HURRICANE KATRINA
| > HURRICANE KATRINA HURRICANE KATRINA HURRICANE KATRINA&nbsp; HURRICANE
| > KATRINA
| > HURRICANE KATRINA HURRICANE KATRINA HURRICANE KATRINA HURRICANE KATRINA
| > HURRICANE KATRINA HURRICANE KATRINA&nbsp; HURRICANE KATRINA&nbsp;
| HURRICANE
| > KATRINA KATRINA HURRICANE RELIEF HURRICAN KATRINA ASSISTANCE KATRINA
| RELIEF
| > NEW
| > ORLEANS RELEASE KATRINA RENTAL EQUIPMENT MILITARY OFFICE EQUIPMENT
RENTALS
| > MISSISSIPPI LOUISIANA RELIEF RELEIF OFFICE MACHINE RENTALS KATRINA
| EQUIPMENT
| > SUPPORT KATRINA FAX MACHINE RENTALS KATRINA PRINTER RENTALS KATRINA
| COMPUTER
| > RENTALS SHORT TERM RENTALS KATRINA IT SUPPORT COMPANY KATRINA TECHNOLOGY
| > SUPPORT
| > COMPANY KATRINA LONG TERM RENTALS RENT A PC RENTAPC.COM RAPC.COM RAPC
| > KATRINA IT
| > SUPPORT COMPANY NEXT DAY PC RENTALS NEXT DAY PRINTER RENTALS NEXT DAY
| COPIER
| > RENTALS NEXT DAY SCANNER RENTALS NEXT DAY FAX MACHINE RENTALS NEXT DAY
| > FACSIMILE RENTALS REPAIRS ONSITE SERVICE SUPPORT NEAR NEAR NEAR NEAR
NEAR
| > NEAR
| > NEAR ATLANTA NEAR FAYETTEVILLE NEAR JONESBORO NEAR NEAR RIVERDALE NEAR
| > MCDONOUGH
| > NEAR PEACHTREE CITY NEAR UNION CITY NEAR COLLEGE PARK NEAR STOCKBRIDGE
| NEAR
| > STONE MOUNTAIN NEAR EAST POINT NEAR ELLENWOOD NEAR ROSWELL NEAR CUMMINGS
| > NEAR
| > ALPHARETTA NEAR FAIRBURN NEAR NEWNAN NEAR CLAYTON COUNTRY NEAR FAYETTE
| > COUNTY
| > NEAR HENRY COUNTY NEAR DEKALB COUNTY NEAR COBB COUNTY NEAR DOUGLAS
COUNTY
| > NEAR
| > COWETA COUNTY NEAR ROCKDALE COUNTY NEAR CONYERS NEAR NEWTON COUNTY&nbsp;
| > NEAR
| > COVINGTON NEAR GRIFFIN NEAR SPALDING COUNTY NEAR FORSYTH COUNTY NEAR
| DULUTH
| > NEAR
| > GWINNETT COUNTY NEAR NORCROSS NEAR SANDY SPRINGS NEAR TUCKER NEAR
| DORAVILLE
| > NEAR
| > LITHONIA NEAR CHAMBLEE NEAR PINE LAKE NEAR AUSTELL NEAR MABLETON NEAR
| RUSTON
| > NEAR MINDEN NEAR SHREVEPORT NEAR MONROE NEAR NEW ORLEANS NEAR SIMSBORO
| NEAR
| > ARCADIA NEAR DOYLINE NEAR DALLAS NEAR CASTOR NEAR FORT POLK NEAR FT FOLK
| > NEAR
| > BOSSIER CITY NEAR SHREVE CITY NEAR BARKSDALE NEAR AIRPORT NEAR WORLD
| > CONGRESS
| > CENTER NEAR DOWNTOWN</font></p>All these spaces won't help either:
| >
|
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
| p;&nbnor will using absolute positioning.And why not use tables rather
than
|
<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
| <br><br><br><br><br>to get your page spacing?Whoever designed this page
for
| you really doesn't know what they are doing -there are very unwise
pracitces
| included ... including a huge amt. of hiddentest.ETC"Stan Mclaughlin"
| Hidden text
| isn't the problem....but thanks for trying!>> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP -
| FrontPage]" wrote:>>> My guess is that it's probably all that hidden text
| you've got in yourHTML.>>>> -->> ~ Kathleen Anderson>> Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage>> Spider Web Woman Designs>> web:
| http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/>>>>>> "Stan Mclaughlin"
| > The URL is
| www.century21stan.com>> >>> > "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:>> >>> >> Most of
| us don't have a crystal ball, so it would be helpful if youwould>> >>
| provide a URL to the site so people can take a look at it ;-)>> >> -->> >>
| ===>> >> Tom "Pepper" Willett>> >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage>> >> --->> >>
| About FrontPage 2003:>> >>
| http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802>> >> How
to
| ask a newsgroup question:>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375>>| ===>> >> "Stan Mclaughlin" <Stan (e-mail address removed)>
wrote
| in>> >> message
| >> | My site was developed using Front Page 2003. More and more
| visitorsto>> >> my>> >> | site are telling me that the letters and images
| are jumbled and hardto>> >> view.>> >> | Please help.>> >> |>> >> |
Thanks>>
| >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>
| >
|
|
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

man..that's gotta be a record for page stuffing!

At 12pt font:
29 pages
1 paragraph
15,836 words !

Poor Stan he must not be making enough money in Georgia.




| How about 'tar and feathers' through the streets of New Orleans?
| ETC
| | > Stan's awfully quiet, isn't he?
| >
| > | >> BTW, Stan - I registered a complaint at Century 21 corporate. Maybe you
| >> should hurry up and do a little housecleaning before they look at your
| >> site.
| >>
| >> Also, here's a little something for you to read up on between sleazy
| >> ventures -
| >> http://www.realestateabc.com/codeofethics/
| >>
| >> Bob Lehmann
| >>
| >> message | >>> My site was developed using Front Page 2003. More and more visitors
to
| >>> my
| >>> site are telling me that the letters and images are jumbled and hard
to
| >> view.
| >>> Please help.
| >>>
| >>> Thanks
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

I doubt it.



|I wonder if he got the answer he wanted?
|
| --
| Murray
| ============
|
| | > man..that's gotta be a record for page stuffing!
| >
| > At 12pt font:
| > 29 pages
| > 1 paragraph
| > 15,836 words !
| >
| > Poor Stan he must not be making enough money in Georgia.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | How about 'tar and feathers' through the streets of New Orleans?
| > | ETC
| > | | > | > Stan's awfully quiet, isn't he?
| > | >
| > | > | > | >> BTW, Stan - I registered a complaint at Century 21 corporate. Maybe
| > you
| > | >> should hurry up and do a little housecleaning before they look at
| > your
| > | >> site.
| > | >>
| > | >> Also, here's a little something for you to read up on between
sleazy
| > | >> ventures -
| > | >> http://www.realestateabc.com/codeofethics/
| > | >>
| > | >> Bob Lehmann
| > | >>
| > in
| > | >> message | > | >>> My site was developed using Front Page 2003. More and more
visitors
| > to
| > | >>> my
| > | >>> site are telling me that the letters and images are jumbled and
hard
| > to
| > | >> view.
| > | >>> Please help.
| > | >>>
| > | >>> Thanks
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
B

Bob Lehmann

Actually, he's been sending me threatening emails and sending hang-up calls
to my business phone.

Bob Lehmann
 
E

E. T. Culling

I was afraid that might happen.
Eleanor
Bob Lehmann said:
Actually, he's been sending me threatening emails and sending hang-up
calls
to my business phone.

Bob Lehmann
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

for real?
i bet corporate would love to read those!



| Actually, he's been sending me threatening emails and sending hang-up
calls
| to my business phone.
|
| Bob Lehmann
|
| | > Stan's awfully quiet, isn't he?
| >
| > | > > BTW, Stan - I registered a complaint at Century 21 corporate. Maybe
| > > you
| > > should hurry up and do a little housecleaning before they look at
| > > your site.
| > >
| > > Also, here's a little something for you to read up on between sleazy
| > > ventures -
| > > http://www.realestateabc.com/codeofethics/
| > >
| > > Bob Lehmann
| > >
| > > in
| > > message | > >> My site was developed using Front Page 2003. More and more
| > >> visitors to my
| > >> site are telling me that the letters and images are jumbled and
| > >> hard to
| > > view.
| > >> Please help.
| > >>
| > >> Thanks
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|
 
B

Bob Lehmann

Nah. I'll give him a chance to cool off.

Apparently he isn't aware that blocking your phone number for Caller ID
doesn't block it from everybody - say law enforcement. Who, at least in this
part of the country, take a pretty dim view of such things.

So Stan. how about we call a truce, OK?

Bob Lehmann
 
M

Murray

Reveals quite about about the type of character, right? Did you get a
response from Century 21?
 
U

Uncle Joe

Here in Georgia, where Stan is based (Metro Atlanta), we also take a
dim view of such shenanigans. If he
makes threats, we have a strong anti-terroristic law. He can't say
that he's coming over to kill you or kick
your ass. Even if said in the heat of the moment, that can land him in
a GA prison for five years. If he calls
you interstate, the FBI will get involved.
 
U

Uncle Joe

Oh, he's probably making a killing in the red hot Atlanta market.
Stan's the first realtor
I know of who doesn't publish his physical address. Could be that he's
afraid an
unhappy customer might look him up. I'll look up the GA secretary of
state site
tomorrow to see if there's anything they can do about Stan's
practices. By
the way, his site is running again.
 
B

Bob Lehmann

Probably best just to let it go.

I would imagine that there is nothing illegal about his techniques, however
unethical his tactics may be.

Bob Lehmann
 

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