multi-exposure & raw scans

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Gour

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tmonego

Hi!

I plan to use VueScan & Epson V700 for batch-scanning of ~2500 35mm
slides and wonder about multi-exposure feature as well as multi-pass
scanning?

Enabling multi-exposure will double scan time and using multi-pass
scanning, i.e. number of passes > 1 would increase it further?

I plan to scan in 4800dpi for archiving...any hint which option might
give better results?

Sincerely,
Gour

My V700 doesn't show much improvement in the slide sharpness and
fidelity above 3200ppi. Scanning at 3200ppi will improve the time of
the scan. I have found the V700 to have very good dynamic range,
especially with using the tone compensation function. The auto and
home sections of the Epson software is useless, the Pro section is a
decent scanning program. I set everything up manually which takes less
time than fixing the mistakes the auto settings make. Becomes quite
quick once you are used to the program. If you have a scanning program
like VueScan, you will pick up the scanner functions quickly.
Do take time to set the scanner up, mine was fine out of the box, but
some reviewers have spent a lot of time getting the hieght settings
correct.

Good luck
Tom
 
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Charlie Hoffpauir

Hi!

I plan to use VueScan & Epson V700 for batch-scanning of ~2500 35mm
slides and wonder about multi-exposure feature as well as multi-pass
scanning?

Enabling multi-exposure will double scan time and using multi-pass
scanning, i.e. number of passes > 1 would increase it further?

I plan to scan in 4800dpi for archiving...any hint which option might
give better results?


Sincerely,
Gour

I suggest you run some test scans to help you decide. I scan film with
an Nikon Coolscan IV, and several test slides didn't show enough
difference with multipass to make the time spent seen worthwhile.
While it might help some images, it certainly doesn't seem worthwhile
to scan everything that way. YMMV.
 
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Barry Watzman

Re: "Dedicated film scanners don't have as much movement (but also
can't scan 24 frames in a batch), so they are often less likely to have
registration errors."

The Nikon scanners have ZERO registration errors because they do all of
the actual scanning in one pass, by flashing different LED lights
without moving the scanning head before moving on to the next row of
pixels (they do make separate passes to determine auto-focus and
auto-exposure, but all of the actual scanning is done in a single pass).
 
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Gour

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Gour

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Surfer!

Hi!

I plan to use VueScan & Epson V700 for batch-scanning of ~2500 35mm
slides and wonder about multi-exposure feature as well as multi-pass
scanning?

Enabling multi-exposure will double scan time and using multi-pass
scanning, i.e. number of passes > 1 would increase it further?

I plan to scan in 4800dpi for archiving...any hint which option might
give better results?

I scan at 1,000dpi and make sure I can easily find the 35mm original
from the file name, as most of them are not worth the disk space that
4800dpi would use, nor are most of them worth spending ages trying to do
a perfect scan from. When I have ones I want to do something with I
will rescan if necessary.
 
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Gour

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Gour

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Charlie Hoffpauir

Charlie> I suggest you run some test scans to help you decide. I scan
Charlie> film with an Nikon Coolscan IV, and several test slides didn't
Charlie> show enough difference with multipass to make the time spent
Charlie> seen worthwhile.

In my case, V700 & VueScan does single-pass multi-scanning (up to 16
samples) which is quicker than multi-pass sampling.
as does the coolscan.
Charlie> While it might help some images, it certainly doesn't seem
Charlie> worthwhile to scan everything that way. YMMV.

You might be right.


What about multi-exposure?
don't know, haven't tried.
 
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Barry Watzman

It may be but I'm not familiar enough to say.
Barry> The Nikon scanners have ZERO registration errors because they do
Barry> all of the actual scanning in one pass, by flashing different LED
Barry> lights without moving the scanning head before moving on to the
Barry> next row of pixels (they do make separate passes to determine
Barry> auto-focus and auto-exposure, but all of the actual scanning is
Barry> done in a single pass).

It's the same with V700, right?


Sincerely,
Gour
 
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tmonego

Scanners vary, as I said my scanner does a good job at 3200 at 4800
the scans looked almost the same and it took substantially longer to
do the scan. But on 35mm b&w negs I get good grain, not over blown,
and good detail at 3200ppi. Worth testing definitely. Nikon does have
a 50 slide holder, but if any of your slides are in cardboard mounts,
it sticks like crazy, from experience, plastic mounts are OK.

Tom
 
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Barry Watzman

Repeating something I have said before:

2,700 dpi (which just happens to be the resolution of the lowest
quality, oldest "good" Nikon film scanners, the LS-2000 and the LS-30)
gives you a 10 megapixel scan of a 35mm image.

It is VERY doubtful that ANY higher resolution will really capture any
additional actual information.

At 10 megapixels, you can see film grain in many if not most 35mm films.
For typical non-professional images, shot with real world cameras
(good consumer SLRs, but not multi-thousand dollar high end cameras), on
consumer film, with consumer processing and focusing and exposure
settings made either automatically by the camera or by a
non-professional, there just isn't much more, if any more than 10
megapixels of actual information in the 35mm image.

So yes, later scanners can scan at 3,200 and 4,000 and 5,000 and even
6,400 dpi. But all that you will accomplish, in most cases, will be to
make the process much slower and to make the resulting file sizes
dramatically larger with no actual benefit in terms of real image
quality. Once most 35mm images get to 10 megapixels (and actually, for
most of them, even 6 or 8 megapixels), you really have most of the
useable information contained in the image. Beyond 10 megapixels, for
the most part, additional resolution servers no useful purpose and in
fact is counterproductive for most purposes.



Scanners vary, as I said my scanner does a good job at 3200 at 4800
the scans looked almost the same and it took substantially longer to
do the scan. But on 35mm b&w negs I get good grain, not over blown,
and good detail at 3200ppi. Worth testing definitely. Nikon does have
a 50 slide holder, but if any of your slides are in cardboard mounts,
it sticks like crazy, from experience, plastic mounts are OK.

Tom
 
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Gour

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Gour

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