MSWord2007 Equation: Two questions: display in text, space infunction name

[Andrew]

Q1.
In text we usually need to place limits after e.g. \sum or \int
operators
but sometimes even in text we need to place the limits
ABOVE and BELOW operators such \sum, \int, \bigwedge
(like in the display style).

How to achieve such effect in MSWord 2007 equation?
Could someone please suggest some solutions?

(I know I could use MicrosoftEquations3.0 where this i possible
but I need achieve that in MSWord 2007 equation).

In TeX (LaTeX) system I can use in text e.g.:
$\sum\limits_{k=1}^n k^2=..$
to achieve (to force) the limits ABOVE and BELOW operator \sum.

Q2.

In MicrosoftEquations3.0 i could use new function name:
e.g. Part1Ofname(small space)Part2Ofname just typing:

Part1Ofname(small space)Part2Ofname and then choose from
menu style function option.

How this can be achieved in MSWord 2007 equations?
I mean how to put the (small space)

When I tried to use

Insert/Tools/Equation Option/RecognizedFunction

we can put only letters a,...,z and no space.

In LaTeX system we can use the following

\DeclareMathOperator{\FunctionName}{Part1Ofname\,Part2Ofname}

where \, means tiny space.

How this can be achieved in MSWord 2007 equations?
I mean how to put the (small space)

Could someone please suggest some answers to the above questions?

TIA

Andrew

 

[Yves Dhondt]

Q1

This is probably not possible with inline equations. This is indeed
partially possible with Microsoft Equations 3.0. I say partially because it
ruins your line height resulting in one line inside your text being much
wider than the rest thereby practically becoming useless as well.

A possible workaround is to use a textbox and insert the equation into the
textbox. That way you can keep using the display format rather than the
inline one. You can then hide the borders of the textbox and set the layout
to 'tight'. This won't influence the line height of the rest of your text,
so you might have to manipulate that line separately.

Q2

You could either use \hairsp, \thinsp or \medsp for small spaces. So in your
case, you would type
Part1Ofname\thinsp<space>Part2Ofname
where <space> represents pressing the spacebar.

Yves

 

[Andrew]

Thank you very much for answer.

Q1

This is probably not possible with inline equations. This is indeed
partially possible with Microsoft Equations 3.0. I say partially because it
ruins your line height resulting in one line inside your text being much
wider than the rest thereby practically becoming useless as well.

A possible workaround is to use a textbox and insert the equation into the
textbox. That way you can keep using the display format rather than the
inline one. You can then hide the borders of the textbox and set the layout
to 'tight'. This won't influence the line height of the rest of your text,
so you might have to manipulate that line separately.

TextBox is very very inconvenient for such tusk (IMHO).

Very strange.

You are right using the limits
ABOVE and BELOW operators such \sum, etc. it ruins line height
but we really need sometimes to place the limits
ABOVE and BELOW operators such \sum, \int, \bigwedge.

I think we should "have freedom" to ruin line height
because we sometimes need that.

It is possible in OpenOffice, TeX (LaTeX) systems, MathType.

May be it is possible MSWOrd 2007? Where can I get final help?
May be there is better newsgroup?

Q2

You could either use \hairsp, \thinsp or \medsp for small spaces. So in your
case, you would type
Part1Ofname\thinsp<space>Part2Ofname
where <space> represents pressing the spacebar.

It does not work when I tried to use

Insert/Tools/Equation Option/RecognizedFunction

we can put only letters a,...,z and no space (especially \thinsp).

It only works in equation without using
Insert/Tools/Equation Option/RecognizedFunction

Again it is strange. Why I cannot put space in function name
(we can put space even in file and directory names under MS Windows)


Where can I get final help?
May be there is better newsgroup?

I am sorry for my irritation and thanks again for trying to help me.

If you or somebody have better solutions it would be very nice.

TIA

 

[Yves Dhondt]

It took me some trying, but there is a way to achieve your first issue by
using \above and \below. It just doesn't look as if you can type it in one
go.

1)Type "\below(k=0)<space>"
2)Move the cursor to the placeholder
3)Type "\above(n)<space>"
4)Move the cursor to the placeholder
5)Type "2211<ALT+X>"
6)Move the cursor to the end to type the rest of the equation

Regarding the second issue, do you really need the recognized function tool?
Can't you just use the normal text option for equations to type your
function names?

I'm not aware of a better place than here to get answers to your questions.
The math tools aren't used by that many people. It's not like there is a
dedicated group behind them.

Yves