Mozilla Firefox

[Wayfarer]

I must confess, I really want to like Firefox. The modularity and breadth
of extensions (especially for a web developer like me), the reduced
vulnerability to hack attacks, the faster page rendering speed, better
integration with third-party download managers, striking a blow against
Micro$oft...all of these attract me. But I find myself getting awfully
damned irritated with it, and I'm sorely tempted to move back to one of the
tabbed IE shell browsers in self-defense (before I spontaneously combust in
frustration).

Have you ever had any of these things happen:

- right click on a link and the "Bookmark this page.." context menu item
has disappeared somewhere off the top of the page?

- highlight some text on a webpage, and then the context menu after right
clicking fails to show a "Copy" item and Ctrl-C doesn't work?

- be unable to enter anything in a form control (e.g.-textbox)?

- be unable to copy from or to the address bar or the Googlebar or a form
control?

- get to a webpage that uses the DFN or ACRONYM HTML tags and having the
text not wrap but truncated if it doesn't make it before the single line
runs off the screen to the right? <-- ugly sentence

- report something on Bugzilla and be chastised for violating some arcane
Bugzilla/Mozilla protocol?

- post something to Mozillazine forums only to be told that "It doesn't
happen to me", as though that somehow invalidates what you've experienced?

- and, though no fault of Mozilla, but of web designers pandering to IE and
it's flagrant flaws, be forced to switch to IE to do something (besides
accomplishing whichever items have short-circuited from the above list)?

Admittedly, most of these are intermittent, but they occur for me with
astonishing regularity and my attempts to determine causes and correct (or
even somehow compensate) have been thus far thwarted.

This sucks...

I am running Windows XP Pro SP2 on a Dell Dimension with a Celery
processor. I'm currently using Firefox 0.9.3 because 1.0PR doesn't have
RoboForm support yet (or didn't last night), but these problems have
plagued me since at least 0.8 when my OS was XP Home.

I don't expect any responses and I'm not sure now what I intended when I
started writing this post, other than to vent my frustration at just having
Firefox f*ck me up for about the nth time today.

Anyway, thanks for listening.

Neill

 

[Davinci]

[snipped for brevity] Wayfarer had the following problems:

- right click on a link and the "Bookmark this page.." context menu item
has disappeared somewhere off the top of the page?

- highlight some text on a webpage, and then the context menu after right
clicking fails to show a "Copy" item and Ctrl-C doesn't work?

- be unable to enter anything in a form control (e.g.-textbox)?

- be unable to copy from or to the address bar or the Googlebar or a form
control?

- get to a webpage that uses the DFN or ACRONYM HTML tags and having the
text not wrap but truncated if it doesn't make it before the single line
runs off the screen to the right? <-- ugly sentence

- report something on Bugzilla and be chastised for violating some arcane
Bugzilla/Mozilla protocol?

- post something to Mozillazine forums only to be told that "It doesn't
happen to me", as though that somehow invalidates what you've experienced?

- and, though no fault of Mozilla, but of web designers pandering to IE and
it's flagrant flaws, be forced to switch to IE to do something (besides
accomplishing whichever items have short-circuited from the above list)?

===================================

Been using Mozilla Firefox from inception. Nope, never had these
problems. But, then ... you didn't want to hear answers like that,
but only from people with the same problems. Not saying you
are inept, or your computer is ... only that I, too, am not having
problems.

 

[CharlieDontSurf]

Have you ever had any of these things happen:

- right click on a link and the "Bookmark this page.." context menu item
has disappeared somewhere off the top of the page?

- highlight some text on a webpage, and then the context menu after right
clicking fails to show a "Copy" item and Ctrl-C doesn't work?

- be unable to enter anything in a form control (e.g.-textbox)?

- be unable to copy from or to the address bar or the Googlebar or a form
control?

- get to a webpage that uses the DFN or ACRONYM HTML tags and having the
text not wrap but truncated if it doesn't make it before the single line
runs off the screen to the right? <-- ugly sentence

Man, that's a world of woe. I've been using Firefox-bird-phoenix since
..5 and (cover your ears :-D) haven't run into one of those problems.

A shot in the dark -- are you carrying extensions over from one install
to the next? Could be a bad extension gorking up the XUL widgets in the
browser. Maybe a stone clean install after a complete wipe, including
profiles, will fix it.

 

[mike ring]

I must confess, I really want to like Firefox. The modularity and
breadth of extensions (especially for a web developer like me), the
reduced vulnerability to hack attacks, the faster page rendering
speed, better integration with third-party download managers, striking
a blow against Micro$oft...all of these attract me. But I find myself
getting awfully damned irritated with it, and I'm sorely tempted to
move back to one of the tabbed IE shell browsers in self-defense
(before I spontaneously combust in frustration).

I'm afraid I agree with you, I tried Firefox and Thunderbird, and kept
Thunderbird, and as a result of threads here, added Avant, which makes IE
very much better.

But it's still a resource hog, so when firefox improves.....

mike

 

[John]

I must confess, I really want to like Firefox. The modularity and breadth
of extensions (especially for a web developer like me), the reduced
vulnerability to hack attacks, the faster page rendering speed, better
integration with third-party download managers, striking a blow against
Micro$oft...all of these attract me. But I find myself getting awfully
damned irritated with it, and I'm sorely tempted to move back to one of the
tabbed IE shell browsers in self-defense (before I spontaneously combust in
frustration).

Have you ever had any of these things happen:

- right click on a link and the "Bookmark this page.." context menu item
has disappeared somewhere off the top of the page?

- highlight some text on a webpage, and then the context menu after right
clicking fails to show a "Copy" item and Ctrl-C doesn't work?

- be unable to enter anything in a form control (e.g.-textbox)?

- be unable to copy from or to the address bar or the Googlebar or a form
control?

- get to a webpage that uses the DFN or ACRONYM HTML tags and having the
text not wrap but truncated if it doesn't make it before the single line
runs off the screen to the right? <-- ugly sentence

- report something on Bugzilla and be chastised for violating some arcane
Bugzilla/Mozilla protocol?

- post something to Mozillazine forums only to be told that "It doesn't
happen to me", as though that somehow invalidates what you've experienced?

- and, though no fault of Mozilla, but of web designers pandering to IE and
it's flagrant flaws, be forced to switch to IE to do something (besides
accomplishing whichever items have short-circuited from the above list)?

Admittedly, most of these are intermittent, but they occur for me with
astonishing regularity and my attempts to determine causes and correct (or
even somehow compensate) have been thus far thwarted.

This sucks...

I am running Windows XP Pro SP2 on a Dell Dimension with a Celery
processor. I'm currently using Firefox 0.9.3 because 1.0PR doesn't have
RoboForm support yet (or didn't last night), but these problems have
plagued me since at least 0.8 when my OS was XP Home.

I don't expect any responses and I'm not sure now what I intended when I
started writing this post, other than to vent my frustration at just having
Firefox f*ck me up for about the nth time today.

Anyway, thanks for listening.

Neill

Heya wayfarer,

it can be a problem with some sites when using anything other than IE, i've
not used firefox for that long, but I have come across some webpages that
don't like it in one way or another.

Have you tired opera ? another good alternative if you don't want to use ms
products.

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

- get to a webpage that uses the DFN or ACRONYM HTML tags and
having the text not wrap but truncated if it doesn't make it
before the single line runs off the screen to the right? <-- ugly
sentence

Could you point to an example page?

FWIW, I've never had any of the problems you listed, using Fx since
v 0.7. Mileage varies, I guess.

 

[BilllR]

Yes. These are just a few of the reasons us techs would never touch
fire***. Only end-users that know nothing about web browsing would use
such a silly little program!!

HTH!!! HAND!!!!!1

 

[jo]

But I find myself getting awfully
damned irritated with it, and I'm sorely tempted to move back to one of the
tabbed IE shell browsers in self-defense (before I spontaneously combust in
frustration).

If you don't mind intrusive ads, you could have a look at Opera which is
much better than Firefox, and streets ahead of IE.
If you get to like Opera, there are workrounds for the ads.

 

[Conor]

Been using Mozilla Firefox from inception. Nope, never had these
problems. But, then ... you didn't want to hear answers like that,
but only from people with the same problems. Not saying you
are inept, or your computer is ... only that I, too, am not having
problems.

This is one thing that bugs the hell out of me about Firefox...

GMail.

Firefox up to 0.9x. Log in and on Inbox page is a link to invite
friends to GMail. Click on link, window opens and all is OK.

Firefox 1.0PR. Log in and on Inbox page is a link to invite friends to
GMail. Click on link and popup blocker shows a warning. Click on "allow
popups" - doesn't work. Click on "temporarly allow popups" - doesn't
work.

 

[Jordan]

If you don't mind intrusive ads, you could have a look at Opera which
is much better than Firefox, and streets ahead of IE.
If you get to like Opera, there are workrounds for the ads.

"Much better" is meaningless without reasons.

 

[Conrad Geller]

- report something on Bugzilla and be chastised for violating some arcane

I certainly agree about Bugzilla. Their whole operation shakes my
confidence in their technology.
Connie

 

[xtort]

I have to agree with you, I have been using Opera for the past two
years as these "bugs" you've mentioned havent been adressed in either
Mozilla or Firefox. I dont know why they cant fix simple things like
the weird behaviour in the edit boxes,etc. It is far from rocket
science to fix this stuff, and some of these things have been around
since phoenix. So, for now, I'm stuck with opera, and the ie wrappers
like Maxthon. IMHO, Maxthon is a better browser than Firefox anyways
for now in terms of reliability and quirks. (I could care a rats ass
about "standards", I just want something that doesnt annoy me every
five minutes)

best,
xtort
[http://xtort.net]

 

[Aaron]

Man, that's a world of woe. I've been using Firefox-bird-phoenix since
.5 and (cover your ears :-D) haven't run into one of those problems.

A shot in the dark -- are you carrying extensions over from one
install to the next? Could be a bad extension gorking up the XUL
widgets in the browser. Maybe a stone clean install after a complete
wipe, including profiles, will fix it.

I would second that sugguestion as well. Are you running a lot of
extensions? Themes?

But when it comes down to it, mileage varies, some people will always
have problems, others won't see any. It's the same for all browsers
including IE wrappers. For example, I read that many loyal MYIE2 fans are
having tons of problems when using Maxthon and some have decided to stay
with MyIE2.

It's probably the same with Opera, Safari etc..

 

[siDetRaked]

Have you ever had any of these things happen:

I gave up on Firefox yesterday after less than a week. I could have 4
links open and everytime I close one the program crashed

 

[mike ring]

"Much better" is meaningless without reasons.

Not strictly true; if I hear of an app here and folks like it, I try it,
and I may or may not get on with it.

The heart has it's reasons... Yuck - did *I* write that?

mike

 

[jo]

"Much better" is meaningless without reasons.

Am I the only one to detect an air of paradox in the above statement?

 

[Aaron]

Am I the only one to detect an air of paradox in the above statement?

You mean he has to give reasons to explain why the statement '"Much
better" is meaningless without reasons'?

And besides your reply also has an air of paradox since you do not give
reasons for why you detect an air of paradox.

 

[Michael Rainey]

- right click on a link and the "Bookmark this page.." context menu item
has disappeared somewhere off the top of the page?


I had that happen, along with some other flaky behaviour, when I installed
1.0 on top of the previous version. After a complete uninstall/reinstall,
the problems went away.

That being said, I still prefer SlimBrowser running on top of IE. Has a ton
of features, runs fast, and you can customize the interface freely. I keep
IE patched, and use the normal virus/spyware/firewall protections, and
haven't had any security problems (a little common sense helps).

www.flashpeak.com

 

[jo]

You mean he has to give reasons to explain why the statement '"Much
better" is meaningless without reasons'?

Yep

And besides your reply also has an air of paradox since you do not give
reasons for why you detect an air of paradox.

Hmmm, dunno so much; my question could be answered with a simple yes/no,
with no one having to give no reasons for nothing...

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

Firefox 1.0PR. Log in and on Inbox page is a link to invite
friends to GMail. Click on link and popup blocker shows a warning.
Click on "allow popups" - doesn't work. Click on "temporarly allow
popups" - doesn't work.

I had the same trouble, but it seems to be am extension problem rather
than a Firefox problem. Running profiles which have Tabbrowser
Extensions installed, I see the problem you have; running profiles
without TBE installed, 'allow popups' works fine with gmail.google.com
and with other sites.