Moving tables to inside other tables?

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wwcp

I have always had a problem moving (cut/paste) an entire Table to a cell
within another Table - it always ends up just outside and above the table
that I'm trying to move it into...(?) (Kinda scary the first time it
happened because this tinnie little 2 cell table blew up to this full page
width huge thing.. lol)

For the last few years this didn't bother me much because I would just
create another Table where I wanted it in the new Table - and, then move the
data and graphics over from each cell.... took awhile with large cell count
tables, but it was my work around... However, this time I am competely
rearranging my whole web site to take advantage of an Include Page of
"custom navigations" and need to move EVERYTHING into new 2 column full page
Tables... arg.... This will take me a week if I can't move complete tables
into the right cell of those 2 column full page Tables...

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have....

Palmer
 
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Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage

easiest way;
find the table you want to move in the code itself. (I sometimes will type
an irregular few characters near it in WYSIWYG view (before using fp 2003
which is much better at this))
highlight the code for that table from <table> to </table>, hit cut. then
find your place where you want to put it inside the other table and paste it
between that table's <td> and </td> tags. (using the same trick of putting a
few irregular characters like x##x in the cell, and if necessary using the
"find" so you can find it quickly in a complicated page).

HTH

HTH

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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

welp, what I do when I want to 're-table' a page is to create my new table below all the content on that page, then drag & drop the content from the above old table into the new table, cell by cell....then delete the old table.

you may want to create a blank template page that fits your web style, with a default table set up the way you want it that way be quicker too.

| I have always had a problem moving (cut/paste) an entire Table to a cell
| within another Table - it always ends up just outside and above the table
| that I'm trying to move it into...(?) (Kinda scary the first time it
| happened because this tinnie little 2 cell table blew up to this full page
| width huge thing.. lol)
|
| For the last few years this didn't bother me much because I would just
| create another Table where I wanted it in the new Table - and, then move the
| data and graphics over from each cell.... took awhile with large cell count
| tables, but it was my work around... However, this time I am competely
| rearranging my whole web site to take advantage of an Include Page of
| "custom navigations" and need to move EVERYTHING into new 2 column full page
| Tables... arg.... This will take me a week if I can't move complete tables
| into the right cell of those 2 column full page Tables...
|
| Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have....
|
| Palmer
 
W

wwcp

Boy - talk about not liking this answer... (lol) I've tried both of your
suggestions (work arounds) and not being the sharpest HTMLer on the block
have opted to just create new Tables and populate them cell by cell - adding
& editing each cell as I go ------ a big pain.... But, worth the effort to
get the very nice custom nav Included page that I have created (much more
organized...)

Just wondering WHY FP wouldn't allow "us" to simply move the original tables
around???

Thanks for your help, guys...

Palmer
 
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Wes

I cut/paste a table into another table cell (nesting)all the time.
Sometimes the table size gets distorted but it's an easy fix.
 
W

wwcp

Could mine not nest because I'm using FP 2000? (This IS a lot of work
moving them cell by cell. I use tables for EVERYTHING... arg... lol)

Thanks,

Palmer
 
C

Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage

tell ya what,
this would be a good reason to upgrade to fp 2003.
the "split view" and the way hovering over a tag on the toolbar draws a box
around that element's border would truly ease your work and be well worth
the $80-90 the upgrade costs (IMHO).

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP-FrontPage

Make More Money with Less Work
Let Your Clients Control Their Content With Just A Browser!
http://contentseed.com/
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

actually you can create a new empty table down below then select the old table and copy/paste it into the new table below then delete the old table...but sometimes it gets a little messy, and knowing what you're trying to do with includes I figured the longer way may be the best.




| Boy - talk about not liking this answer... (lol) I've tried both of your
| suggestions (work arounds) and not being the sharpest HTMLer on the block
| have opted to just create new Tables and populate them cell by cell - adding
| & editing each cell as I go ------ a big pain.... But, worth the effort to
| get the very nice custom nav Included page that I have created (much more
| organized...)
|
| Just wondering WHY FP wouldn't allow "us" to simply move the original tables
| around???
|
| Thanks for your help, guys...
|
| Palmer
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

FP2000 works just fine, as that is what I current use for all development work.

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Thomas A. Rowe

Click in the table that you want to copy, then Table Menu | Select Table, then right click and
select copy, then click into the table you want to insert the table, and right click and select
paste.

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wwcp

What in the world can I be doing wrong...???

I first create a 1 row by 2 column table.. above (or, below) the current
page of "stuff". And, then I point at (I've always kinda had to first point
at the edge of a table and then left click and drag across the whole table
to get it highlighted) the table I want to move. Then, Ctrl X it... and
then Ctrl V it (I've now also tried using Edit "Cut" and "Paste") into a
cell of my new table. And, bang - everytime it shows up outside the table
- just over the new table - the whole width of my page.... ARG....

What can I be doing wrong?? Maybe it's my attitude.. (lol) Maybe I really
want it to go to the right place too much...(lol) It's gotta be in my wrist
action... (lol)

Palmer

PS Hey fellas - take a look at my New Nav Look.... I love it... It's
almost too large, but I love the organization it allowed me.. (It took most
of yesterday creating all the new tables, though... But, I still have many
more to go....) http://www.ofgc.net
 
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Tom Pepper Willett

Don't left click and drag across the whole table. Put your cursor in the
table and right click select table then cut and paste.
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| What in the world can I be doing wrong...???
|
| I first create a 1 row by 2 column table.. above (or, below) the current
| page of "stuff". And, then I point at (I've always kinda had to first
point
| at the edge of a table and then left click and drag across the whole table
| to get it highlighted) the table I want to move. Then, Ctrl X it... and
| then Ctrl V it (I've now also tried using Edit "Cut" and "Paste") into a
| cell of my new table. And, bang - everytime it shows up outside the
table
| - just over the new table - the whole width of my page.... ARG....
|
| What can I be doing wrong?? Maybe it's my attitude.. (lol) Maybe I
really
| want it to go to the right place too much...(lol) It's gotta be in my
wrist
| action... (lol)
|
| Palmer
|
| PS Hey fellas - take a look at my New Nav Look.... I love it... It's
| almost too large, but I love the organization it allowed me.. (It took
most
| of yesterday creating all the new tables, though... But, I still have
many
| more to go....) http://www.ofgc.net
|
|
|
 
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wwcp

Boy, am I feeling inept, here... whew!! (sorry)

OK, so when I point inside a table (in any cell) my cursor ends up either
outlining a graphic or positioned in some of my text. Then, (left click
does nothing) - and, right clicking brings up a window that does (among
others Cell/Table Property oriented things) look like it would like offer to
let me cut and paste - but, those selections are deactivated... (??)

I really apologize for being such a bonehead on this issue... but, it would
really help me cut a lot of work out....

Thanks, again,

Palmer
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

If you put your cursor in any cell you have to use Table | Select | Table, to get there :)

If you want to use the Right Click method it seems y ou have to highlight select the whole table first then right click.

I use the first method so I don't miss anything.


| Boy, am I feeling inept, here... whew!! (sorry)
|
| OK, so when I point inside a table (in any cell) my cursor ends up either
| outlining a graphic or positioned in some of my text. Then, (left click
| does nothing) - and, right clicking brings up a window that does (among
| others Cell/Table Property oriented things) look like it would like offer to
| let me cut and paste - but, those selections are deactivated... (??)
|
| I really apologize for being such a bonehead on this issue... but, it would
| really help me cut a lot of work out....
|
| Thanks, again,
|
| Palmer
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

After you click in a cell, then go to Table Menu | Select | Table, then you right click and select
copy.

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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
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wwcp

WOW, IT WORKED...... THANKS... Man, would THAT have saved me a bunch of time
the other day... (lol) But, at least now I know how to do it for the rest
of them.....

Thanks, fellas.. (You guys gotta admit that the procedure wasn't all that
straight forward... I'm so used to just "pointing" at something and then
Ctrl X and Ctrl V to move it....)

As I always say...... this a a very useful group..... thanks again,

Palmer
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

cool...you're welcome.



| WOW, IT WORKED...... THANKS... Man, would THAT have saved me a bunch of time
| the other day... (lol) But, at least now I know how to do it for the rest
| of them.....
|
| Thanks, fellas.. (You guys gotta admit that the procedure wasn't all that
| straight forward... I'm so used to just "pointing" at something and then
| Ctrl X and Ctrl V to move it....)
|
| As I always say...... this a a very useful group..... thanks again,
|
| Palmer
 

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