Motherboard Upgrade=Reload XP?

[Dave I.]

I'm looking at upgrading my P4PE to a P4S800D-E motherboard. All other
hardware the same. Will I need to reload Windows XP (Pro, SP2) from
scratch (yuck) or will it allow me to update the chipset drivers (SiS vs.
Intel) during the first boot? Thanks.

Dave

 

[xmradio]

I'm looking at upgrading my P4PE to a P4S800D-E motherboard. All other
hardware the same. Will I need to reload Windows XP (Pro, SP2) from
scratch (yuck) or will it allow me to update the chipset drivers (SiS vs.
Intel) during the first boot? Thanks.

Dave

Try it and see, you might get lucky...

xman

 

[dino]

some say to do a repair install before you boot into XP..that way if
anything is different XP will overwrite it

 

[Peter R. Fletcher]

If you are changing Motherboards, you _must_ do a repair install of XP
before you you try to boot with the new MB. This should (and normally
does) leave all your settings and installed programs as they were, You
should also, however, back your system up before you start,

I'm looking at upgrading my P4PE to a P4S800D-E motherboard. All other
hardware the same. Will I need to reload Windows XP (Pro, SP2) from
scratch (yuck) or will it allow me to update the chipset drivers (SiS vs.
Intel) during the first boot? Thanks.

Dave

Please respond to the Newsgroup, so that others may benefit from the exchange.
Peter R. Fletcher

 

[Neil Maxwell]

some say to do a repair install before you boot into XP..that way if
anything is different XP will overwrite it

I've had good luck doing a repair install with a new MB transfer.
It's pretty quick and so far has worked fine.

I do back everything up first, though.

 

[Joe Schmuckatelli]

I'm looking at upgrading my P4PE to a P4S800D-E motherboard. All other
hardware the same. Will I need to reload Windows XP (Pro, SP2) from
scratch (yuck) or will it allow me to update the chipset drivers (SiS vs.
Intel) during the first boot? Thanks.

First thing is to go into Safe Mode, bring up Device Mangler -- er,
Device Manager -- and change the drivers on the IDE controller to the
"standard" driver. Likewise for both primary and secondary channels.

If you have motherboard-specific drivers listed in your add/remove
programs list, go ahead and uninstall them as well. Once you're done,
you can shut down and do your motherboard swap.

And as has been said before, backup everything.


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[John]

I'm looking at upgrading my P4PE to a P4S800D-E motherboard. All other
hardware the same. Will I need to reload Windows XP (Pro, SP2) from
scratch (yuck) or will it allow me to update the chipset drivers (SiS vs.
Intel) during the first boot? Thanks.

Dave

You'll have to do a repair re-install. Microsoft software is a piece of
shit...

 

[Lars-Erik Østerud]

John skrev:

You'll have to do a repair re-install. Microsoft software is a piece of
shit...

The strange thing is that with Win98se it was just to change the
board, and the reboot, and it found everything

 

[DaveW]

No you cannot update the chipset drivers. Whenever you change the
motherboard that a harddrive containing the OS has used, then you MUST
reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS. Otherwise you face
ongoing Registry errors and data corruption.

 

[Lars-Erik Østerud]

DaveW skrev:

No you cannot update the chipset drivers. Whenever you change the
motherboard that a harddrive containing the OS has used, then you MUST
reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS. Otherwise you face
ongoing Registry errors and data corruption.

Excuse the language, but what a f*****ing stupid soulution. People
NEED to change MB from time to time. Why don't they make a tool to fix
this. This was never a problem with Win98. Just switch. Old hardware
removed, new hardware found. Reboot. All well. Why not with XP????

 

[Kevin]

..

DaveW skrev:


Excuse the language, but what a f*****ing stupid soulution. People
NEED to change MB from time to time. Why don't they make a tool to fix
this. This was never a problem with Win98. Just switch. Old hardware
removed, new hardware found. Reboot. All well. Why not with XP????

Don't listen to him. He always says the same things. The folks above have it
right.
Works most if the time anyways. Don't forget to backup just in case.

 

[Dave I.]

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Don't listen to him. He always says the same things. The folks above
have it right.
Works most if the time anyways. Don't forget to backup just in case.

Thanks all for the help. I'll backup and try it. If it doesn't work, the
worst that can happen is I'll have to reformat and reinstall anyway. I
wonder if it would it make a difference if I were changing to another
Intel chipset instead of SiS?

Dave I

 

[Ed Medlin]

No you cannot update the chipset drivers. Whenever you change the
motherboard that a harddrive containing the OS has used, then you MUST
reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS. Otherwise you
face ongoing Registry errors and data corruption.

Why are you always going on about formatting and reinstalling an OS
everytime some hardware is changed? All that need be done is a repair
install. You must be a sadist........

Ed

 

[Ed Medlin]

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Don't listen to him. He always says the same things. The folks above have
it right.
Works most if the time anyways. Don't forget to backup just in case.

Exactly. His solution to any hardware change, even a processor alone, is to
format and reinstall.

Ed

 

[Ed Medlin]

Thanks all for the help. I'll backup and try it. If it doesn't work, the
worst that can happen is I'll have to reformat and reinstall anyway. I
wonder if it would it make a difference if I were changing to another
Intel chipset instead of SiS?

Dave I

I don't think it would matter much as a different Intel chipset would be
pretty much the same as a different chipset manufacturer. Backup and do a
repair and see how it works out. I am on my 3rd MB/processor change on this
system with only repair installs and have no problems whatsoever. Just make
sure you backup all your important data first.

Ed

 

[Joe Schmuckatelli]

I wonder if it would it make a difference if I were changing to another
Intel chipset instead of SiS?

No difference whatsoever -- same principle applies. I still don't
believe a repair install is necessary, but it certainly couldn't hurt.


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Remember, EVIL spelled backwards is LIVE -- and we all want to do that!

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[John]

John skrev:


The strange thing is that with Win98se it was just to change the
board, and the reboot, and it found everything

Exactly

 

[John]

Thanks all for the help. I'll backup and try it. If it doesn't work, the
worst that can happen is I'll have to reformat and reinstall anyway. I
wonder if it would it make a difference if I were changing to another
Intel chipset instead of SiS?

Dave I

I tried to go from Intel 845 back to Intel BX (BX chipset drivers already
built into WinXP). It didn't work. I tried changing to Standard IDE drivers
before shutting down etc. Didn't work. I tried putting the hard drive on a
Promise PCI Controller and taking the hard drive and controller to the new
motherboard - didn't work either....

 

[Robert Hancock]

John skrev:




The strange thing is that with Win98se it was just to change the
board, and the reboot, and it found everything

This is because Windows 98 could fall back on accessing the disk via the
BIOS if there was no driver loaded for the controller. XP doesn't have
the vestiges of DOS that allowed this to work in 98.

 

[Lars-Erik Østerud]

Robert Hancock skrev:

This is because Windows 98 could fall back on accessing the disk via the
BIOS if there was no driver loaded for the controller. XP doesn't have
the vestiges of DOS that allowed this to work in 98.

And it doesn't matter if you use FAT, FAT32 or NTFS either?
How on earth do one upgrade the MB of a PC running XP then?

My system is a dual boot Win98se / XP Pro, could I use Win98se to boot
with a new MB, and then do somthing with the XP installation (is FAT32
so all files are accessable from Win98se as well), or... ?