MIS cartridges

R

Ron

Ok, I purchased a set of MIS cartridges and what would appear to be
four refills for my Canon
IP3000. So far no clogs and beautiful colors.

So, witihout telling me in CAPS I'm a stupid idiot (have been refilling
Canon cartidges for many years with third party inks) I am wondering
about the experiences of others. How many refills can these cartridges
take? Should I simply assume that four refills pushes the limit? Or, is
there anything that can be done to keep them flowing.....?????????????

Thanks.
 
B

Burt

Ron said:
Ok, I purchased a set of MIS cartridges and what would appear to be
four refills for my Canon
IP3000. So far no clogs and beautiful colors.

So, witihout telling me in CAPS I'm a stupid idiot (have been refilling
Canon cartidges for many years with third party inks) I am wondering
about the experiences of others. How many refills can these cartridges
take? Should I simply assume that four refills pushes the limit? Or, is
there anything that can be done to keep them flowing.....?????????????

Thanks.

Were these MIS "virgin" carts (empty)? They work quite well. The plugs are
not easy to handle, however, and I've replaced them with a screw/o-ring for
sealing the fill hole. More info on this from a previous post of mine here
or on the Nifty Stuff Forum under a thread on how to seal the fill hole.
OEM carts are great for refilling also. All carts that you refill can
present ink feed problems after a while. If you are so inclined, the nifty
stuff forum also has a thread on cleaning the carts out with a simple device
and a hot water backflush. You can then do more refills. Apparently, the
sponge material and/or the outlet filter at the bottom can get enough ink
drying in it to slow the ink flow. This might take four or five refills or
you may get many more. I just did a hot water purge of OEM carts I've
refilled for over a year and they are now working like new again. If you
don't want to bother, you can buy new MIS carts or you can buy a refill kit
that includes empty carts and ink from Hobbicolors (their ebay site.) I use
MIS ink in my i960 printers and am very happy with it. Some participants
have had really good results from the Hobbicolor inks in their Canon
printers and the kit I mentioned costs less, including empty carts, than the
MIS inks alone!
 
T

Tony

Ron said:
Ok, I purchased a set of MIS cartridges and what would appear to be
four refills for my Canon
IP3000. So far no clogs and beautiful colors.

So, witihout telling me in CAPS I'm a stupid idiot (have been refilling
Canon cartidges for many years with third party inks) I am wondering
about the experiences of others. How many refills can these cartridges
take? Should I simply assume that four refills pushes the limit? Or, is
there anything that can be done to keep them flowing.....?????????????

Thanks.

Ron
I have heard people claim 9-10 refills for canon cartrdiges, and have no reason
to dispute that number. I am not sure what eventually causes failure but others
here may be able to provide that information.
Tony
 
M

measekite

Ron said:
Ok, I purchased a set of MIS cartridges and what would appear to be
four refills for my Canon
IP3000. So far no clogs and beautiful colors.
YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING. JUST WAIT FOR THE CLOG AND THE FADING
So, witihout telling me in CAPS I'm a stupid idiot
I NEVER SAID YOU WERE STUPID. THATS THE KIND OF IDIOT YOU CALLED YOURSELF.
(have been refilling
Canon cartidges for many years with third party inks) I am wondering
about the experiences of others. How many refills can these cartridges
take? Should I simply assume that four refills pushes the limit? Or, is
there anything that can be done to keep them flowing.....?????????????
IF YOU DRILL 3 HOLES IN THE BOTTOM OF THE CART THEY WILL FLOW FOREVER.
 
F

fb

Ron said:
Ok, I purchased a set of MIS cartridges and what would appear to be
four refills for my Canon
IP3000. So far no clogs and beautiful colors.

So, witihout telling me in CAPS I'm a stupid idiot (have been refilling
Canon cartidges for many years with third party inks) I am wondering
about the experiences of others. How many refills can these cartridges
take? Should I simply assume that four refills pushes the limit? Or, is
there anything that can be done to keep them flowing.....?????????????

Thanks.
Don't worry about our all cap idiot moron. Everyone in this ng knows
that he has no experience at all...absolutely none...nada with using
after market inks. He has no experience and no knowledge to share...none.
Plus we all have seen his psycho wacko bullshit diatribe about oem inks.
Who cares, let the sucker buy all the oem ink he wants. There is a
sucker born every min as someone else once said and all caps fills that
bill.
It's best to kill file his stuck-on-stupid ass and be done with him.
Biggest loser in the world. Let him talk to himself.
Frank
 
P

Panos Stokas

I have successfully extended the refilling life of my cartridges by
following the cleaning method described here...

http://www.nifty-stuff.com/docs/canon-BCI-6-cartridges.php

....but since I've had no additional equipment at home, I had to
improvise. So, I took the cartrdige, placed it upside down on the sink
beneath the faucet and opened the hot water so that it would drop on
the cartridge outlet. I let the water running for 20'. The cartridge
was now quite clean although not as clean as in Grandad's photos. I put
it in the microwave oven and heated it in four 5'' intervals (waiting
time 10' between each heating) to dry it.

I let the cartridge sit overnight and today I refilled it. Grandad's
method works very well. My simplified alternative is not as effective,
neither as fast (deducing the time from the video posted in the URL
above).

It seems that I'll never have to buy cartridge again.
 
P

Panos Stokas

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING.

I've been refilling for years, so I think I do know what I am getting:
almost the same quality with OEM at a 2% of the OEM price.
JUST WAIT FOR THE CLOG AND THE FADING

You are right, inkjet printers may clog and fade that's why OEMs have
cleaning functions. Always use the cleaning function of your printer!!!

Good advice measekite!

Of couse, if a cleaning function fails after a repeated step, one may
try the following method which does not put the printhead under any
stress and it requires materials which are easy to find. You need:

* Ammonia based glass cleaner (strong odor)
* A small dish
* Tissue (soft toilet paper will do)

1) Fold a few sheets of tissue, let it sit on a dish, and spray
ammonia-based glass cleaner on the paper until its thoroughly wet.
2) Let the printhead sit on the wet tissue.
3) Let a few drops of the glass cleaner on the metallic pickup discs.
4) VERY GENTLY, push the printhead on the tissue and then pull a little
faster. Repeat a few times. Ink should appear on the tissue.
5) Throw away the wet tissue and repeat steps 1-4. The second time you
should notice ink or cleaning fluid appearing on the pickup discs as
you push the printhead.

With a dry sheet of tissue, clean up the printhead contacts and the
areas around the pickup discs.

Don't brush the nozzles or the pickup discs. Don't let the printhead
dry; insert it in the head carriage, insert your cartridges and run a
cleaning cycle.

Here is a thread of discsussions on the issue:

http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=1107
 
Z

zakezuke

Of couse, if a cleaning function fails after a repeated step, one may
try the following method which does not put the printhead under any
stress and it requires materials which are easy to find. You need:
* Ammonia based glass cleaner (strong odor)
* A small dish
* Tissue (soft toilet paper will do)

This is good advice... however our neighborhood troll fails to also
admit that canon printheads have a limited lifespan... and likely
assumes failure is a clog which in some cases the head reached the end
of it's useful life. And *heavy users* that experence *problems* could
be associated either with clogging or failure... there is no way for
him to know... or me to know for that matter... but if you're out of
warranty and got nothing else to lose... your tip is an excelent one.
 
B

braine_dead

Ron said:
Ok, I purchased a set of MIS cartridges and what would appear to be
four refills for my Canon
IP3000. So far no clogs and beautiful colors.

So, witihout telling me in CAPS I'm a stupid idiot (have been refilling
Canon cartidges for many years with third party inks) I am wondering
about the experiences of others. How many refills can these cartridges
take? Should I simply assume that four refills pushes the limit? Or, is
there anything that can be done to keep them flowing.....?????????????

Thanks.

I have purchased MIS cartridges and had trouble with banding on black.
Despite their guarantee...I got the run-around.
I have been using PrintPal for more than a year-without problems (in Ep
82C, black only and OEM for color carts)
 
P

Panos Stokas

Thanks zakezuke; I believe measekite has a lot to offer by simply
considering that many printers are more expensive than 2 sets of their
cartridges.

By reading some of his posts I gather that he is not 100% against
refilling but he has probably faced problems with the anonymity and
uncertainity that reigns over the ink refilling scene.

BTW, you gave us some excellent advice on the nifty forum about the
MP7xx reset codes... I owe you that one.
 
M

Martin

Panos said:
Thanks zakezuke; I believe measekite has a lot to offer by simply
considering that many printers are more expensive than 2 sets of their
cartridges.

By reading some of his posts I gather that he is not 100% against
refilling but he has probably faced problems with the anonymity and
uncertainity that reigns over the ink refilling scene.

BTW, you gave us some excellent advice on the nifty forum about the
MP7xx reset codes... I owe you that one.


*Ahem*... I actually did the necessary extrapolation a few days back and
put instructions together here:
http://www.allthefaqs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3770

.... admittedly, credit should go to nifty-forums and a few other sources
for helping me find (or is that fumble) my way through with a bit of
informed guesswork, either way it should hopefully be a lot easier now :)
 
M

measekite

THAT IS CORRECT. FOR VERY HIGH USERS USING AFTERMARKET INK IF YOU CAN
PIN DOWN THE MFG/FORMULATOR MAY BE AN OPTION BUT FOR THE TYPICAL USER
WHO OWNS A PC AND A PRINTER THAT IS NOT A GOOD ALTERNATIVE.
 
M

measekite

Ron wrote:



I have purchased MIS cartridges and had trouble with banding on black.
CALL UP THE MFG/FORMULATOR TECH SUPPORT AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY. YOU SAY
THEY HAVE NOT TECH SUPPORT. YOU SAY YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO THE
MFG/FORMULATOR IS CAUSE THE VENDOR WILL NOT TELL YOU.

I TOLD YOU SO.
Despite their guarantee...I got the run-around.
OF COURSE. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT.
I have been using PrintPal for more than a year-without problems (in Ep
82C, black only and OEM for color carts)
YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT YOUR ONLY PAL IS THE OEM INK FOR YOUR PRINTER
 
M

measekite

Panos said:
I've been refilling for years, so I think I do know what I am getting:
almost the same quality with OEM at a 2% of the OEM price.




You are right, inkjet printers may clog and fade that's why OEMs have
cleaning functions. Always use the cleaning function of your printer!!!
MY CANON IP4000 AND OTHERS IN THIS NG WILL ATTEST THAT THEIR PRINTER HAS
NEVER USED A CLEANING FUNCTION IN OVER A YEAR. I PRINT AT LEAST ONCE
EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS
Good advice measekite!

Of couse, if a cleaning function fails after a repeated step,
WHEN USING AFTERMARKET INK
 
M

measekite

Panos said:
I have successfully extended the refilling life of my cartridges by
following the cleaning method described here...

http://www.nifty-stuff.com/docs/canon-BCI-6-cartridges.php

...but since I've had no additional equipment at home, I had to
improvise. So, I took the cartrdige, placed it upside down on the sink
beneath the faucet and opened the hot water so that it would drop on
the cartridge outlet. I let the water running for 20'. The cartridge
was now quite clean although not as clean as in Grandad's photos. I put
it in the microwave oven and heated it in four 5'' intervals (waiting
time 10' between each heating) to dry it.
:-D :-D :-D
I let the cartridge sit overnight and today I refilled it. Grandad's
method works very well. My simplified alternative is not as effective,
neither as fast (deducing the time from the video posted in the URL
above).

It seems that I'll never have to buy cartridge again.
:-D :-D :-D
 
P

Panos Stokas

BUT FOR THE TYPICAL USER WHO OWNS A PC AND A PRINTER
THAT IS NOT A GOOD ALTERNATIVE

And you believe that regular of this n.g. is are your "typical" users.
 
P

Panos Stokas

Unfortunately this is true. Even after trying to get him into
discussion, it seems measekite has no arguments. He is just an
annoyance that has to be ignored.
 
F

fb

Panos said:
Unfortunately this is true. Even after trying to get him into
discussion, it seems measekite has no arguments. He is just an
annoyance that has to be ignored.
We've known for months that meashershithead is a ****ing moron loser.
Kill file his dumb ass.
Frank
 
Z

zakezuke

*Ahem*... I actually did the necessary extrapolation a few days back and
put instructions together here:
http://www.allthefaqs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3770

... admittedly, credit should go to nifty-forums and a few other sources
for helping me find (or is that fumble) my way through with a bit of
informed guesswork, either way it should hopefully be a lot easier now

The offical credit probally should go to rjwaldren who was able to
translate key bits of info from deutch... I can take some credit for
stumbling though and finding some bits of info my self. As I never
actually wrote anything on resetting the waste bin beyond a few lines,
nor was this something i've looked for yet Snailz or Martin can take
credit for this. I imagine it's possible I might have wrote a blip on
the subject earlier... but I can't remember if I actually did and if I
did it was a result of help from rjwaldren on steve's forums... and
others likely pulled that useful info from posts from my self or from
knightcrawler's website.

But any info on the 750/760/780... that was a get the cd-printing
feature enabled quest that started on steve's forums.
 

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