Microsoft VM

[FastArtCee]

As of a couple weeks ago, some sites don't work when using IE6. I get a
message:

"Install on Demand (Other)
To display this page correctly, you need to download and install the
following components:
Java virtual machine"

If I try to install, it goes nowhere; if I ignore the message I get a
message from the site:

"You need to enable your browser's Java Plug-in to view the tickers. Click
here for instructions on enabling Java."

BUT I have Microsoft VM installed, and I've even tried re-installing it. AND
I've given all the required permissions.
In 'Internet tools', 'Security' tab, I have 'Microsoft vm - Java
permissions' set to 'Medium safety', and on the 'Advanced' tab, I have
'Microsoft VM, JIT compiler...' enabled.

So what's wrong?? Do I have to uninstall Microsofts VM, and install Sun's?

Thanks for any advice.

Art

 

[Jim Byrd]

Hi Fast - You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the
following
sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm

and check whether you have the MS VM installed and which version here:
http://www.visualware.com/personal/support/index.html#java

There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
http://www.javatester.org/installing.html

Be aware, however, that after Sept. 30, 2004, MS will apparently no longer
be distributing Java or providing any support for Java including
security fixes. (It's unclear as to how 6/26/03 court decision will
affect this) See here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/news/jre.asp, and
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ ,and more recently here:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....RBAELCFEY?type=technologyNews&storyID=3572282
so you
might want to start thinking about the future.

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using
the dropdown)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java
plug-in here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html



For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3809 prior to upgrading
to v. 3810 if you didn't previous have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809
installed.

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and
install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87D5474AC9DCD.exe
or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...icrosoft.Q810030_W2K_SP4_5849/Q810030_W2K.exe

For Win2000 SP4, you'll need to re-install v.3805, from here:
http://www.download.support.safetec.net/msjavx86/msjavx86.exe
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/msjavx86.exe


For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
http://ftp.idilis.ro/windows/sp/jvm98/msjavwu.exe, or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...XP/com_microsoft.javavm_3809_5853/msjavwu.exe,
or here: http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe


Then upgrade to v. 3810:

For all OS's except Win2kSP4 obtain v. 3810 here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 ,or here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m...l/MSJavWU_8073687b82d41db93f4c2a04af2b34d.exe

For Win2k - SP2, SP3 - you can also obtain v. 3810 from Microsoft here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe

For Win2kSP4, to get 3810 from Microsoft you now have to get Q816093 from
Windows Update Catalog - use the entry for Windows 2000 SP4 (this seems to
be the only Win2k option that has it) and then find 816093 in the list. You
can find directions for using the Windows Update Catalog functions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;323166. (I am
informed by Torgeir Bakken, MVP, that if you rename the downloaded file from
here: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 to
msjavwu.exe it will then also work for SP4.)

Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select
which one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart
all IE browsers. Here, courtesy of Michel Gallant, MVP Security, is a
tiny utility which allows you to toggle and view status of your current
Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://pages.istar.ca/~neutron/SelectIEJVM

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility:
If/when you install a new version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually
select to have Sun JVM as default JVM for IE (in install), or after
install
via the JavaPlugin control panel. This generates the necessary win32
registry
entries, which must be present for the utility to know about JavaPlugin.
After that, the utility should work properly."



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Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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[D Goldman]

Check out this link:
http://www.windows-help.net/WindowsXP/howto-21.html

Hope this helps,

Daniel Goldman
http://d-goldman.org

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In Linux we trust!

 

[FastArtCee]

Thanks, Jim,

When I try to test Java by going to http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html, I
get the 'You must download Java Virtual Machine', etc. But I've done that,
watched as Java v3810 was installed on my machine, rebooted... and I get
the same result.

When I go test JavaScript, it passes all tests.

If I use Michel Gallant's utility, it says IE6 is using MS VM.

I've tried switching in Tools | Internet Options | Advanced to use Sun Java
(and unchecked JIT under Microsoft VM), but that hasn't helped.

Incidentally, links in emails and newsgroup posts don't work, either. I have
presumed this is part of the same problem.

And so around and around I go! Would you say that a complete uninstall of
both MS VM and Sun Java and
re-installs might do the trick?

Art

 

[Jim Byrd]

Hi Fast - Yeah, I think that's what I'd try first at this point. You can
probably do a reinstall-in-place of the MS Java VM. Uninstall the Sun JRE
from Add-Remove Programs first, then follow the directions I previously gave
to reinstall the MS Java v.3805/3809 (depending on your OS which you didn't
state) and then the appropriate upgrade to 3810 as I outlined. See where
that gets you and post back please.

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[FastArtCee]

Thanks.

I had forgot to post that I am running XP Home.

I tried uninstalling MS VM using the 'Run' command (and checked my spelling
three times!), but got the error message "error in advpack.dll - Missing
entry: launchINFsection".

I'm searching for another way to uninstall MS VM.

Art

 

[FastArtCee]

I tried everything you suggested -- thanks! -- but still, no go.

So I have uninstalled Microsoft VM and installed Sun Java runtime, and now
everything seems to be working properly again. Perhaps I was missing a key
file, or had a corrupt file in MS VM.

Again, thanks for your quick advice.

Art

 

[FastArtCee]

I used a cut-and-paste of the run command from another site, and --
voila! -- it worked like a charm. I have now installed Sun Java runtime, and
everything is working properly again.

Thanks for your advice.

Art

 

[FastArtCee]

I forgot to say that I'm running XP home.

And... I spoke to soon when I said everything was now okay. I have checked
all aspects of Java (using the sites you provided) and everything works, for
the first time in weeks.

But... when I click on a link in a message (email or post), IE6 opens, but
goes nowhere. Nothing appears in the address slot. So I have been using
cut-and-paste to get to sites. Is this problem somehow related to Java, or
is there a setting somewhere that I have screwed up, and need to re-set?

Thanks,
Art

 

[Jim Byrd]

Hi Fast - That's probably not a Java issue. Try this: Go to Start|Run and
enter "regsvr32 urlmon.dll" (without the quotes). After you get a Success
message, re-boot. If that doesn't work, then check out the following
article and do the additional steps outlined there:

You Cannot Open New Internet Explorer Window or Nothing Happens After You
Click a Link
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q281679



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[FastArtCee]

I did all the 'run' tasks; all succeeded except, of course, msjava.dll,
which I have uninstalled.

The problem exists only in email messages or posts; links on web pages work
just fine.

The next step seems to be either a complete re-install of XP -- which is not
an attractive solution! -- or to pursue the 'IEAK' fix.

Art

 

[FastArtCee]

Jim,

My problem with respect to the email links was that a month ago -- just for
something to do! -- I downloaded and tried out the latest version of
Netscape. Somehow, in 'File type' for URL, 'Netscape' ended up in the
'Application' field. When I edited it to 'IExplorer' my problem went away!

Thanks on behalf of all us folks who occasionally need MVP advice!

Art

 

[Jim Byrd]

YW, Art - Glad you got it fixed. I was just about to post a procedure for
you to check that in response to your other message.

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Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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