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Carl
How do you turn off Microsoft Messenger so that you don't
get those annoying pop ups while online?
get those annoying pop ups while online?
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Developer
Double-click on the icon in the system tray to open the program.
Go to Tools->Options->Preferences.
Clear the checkbox for "Run this program when Windows starts."
If you use Outlook Express, you also have to clear an option that keeps
Messenger running.
Go to Tools->Options->Preferences.
Clear the checkbox for "Run this program when Windows starts."
If you use Outlook Express, you also have to clear an option that keeps
Messenger running.
F
Fibb
Go to and open "services" via start menu/all
programs/accessories/adminsitrative tools (it actually
may be in a different spot for you as I may have moved my
program folders around a bit).
right click on messenger and in "start up type"
choose "disabled"
Simple as that.
programs/accessories/adminsitrative tools (it actually
may be in a different spot for you as I may have moved my
program folders around a bit).
right click on messenger and in "start up type"
choose "disabled"
Simple as that.
F
Fibb
I don't think he meant msn messenger but instead windows
messenger service.
messenger service.
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"
This type of spam has become quite common over the past year, and
unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It demonstrates
that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while connected to
the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised by these
specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit, you may
well be open to other threats, such as the Blaster Worm that recently
swept cross the Internet. Install and use a decent, properly
configured firewall. (Merely disabling the messenger service, as some
people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does almost nothing to
truly secure your machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with"
the security gap represented by these messages is particularly
foolish.
Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893
Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904
Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"
This type of spam has become quite common over the past year, and
unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It demonstrates
that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while connected to
the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised by these
specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit, you may
well be open to other threats, such as the Blaster Worm that recently
swept cross the Internet. Install and use a decent, properly
configured firewall. (Merely disabling the messenger service, as some
people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does almost nothing to
truly secure your machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with"
the security gap represented by these messages is particularly
foolish.
Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893
Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904
Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
Please stop deliberately posting potentially harmful advice.
Disabling the messenger service is a "head in the sand" approach
to computer security that leaves the PC vulnerable to threats such as
the W32.Blaster.Worm.
The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you're only
advice, however well-intended, was to turn off the warnings. How is
this helpful?
Equivalent Scenario: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as you are, replies, "Well,
don't do that."
The only true way to secure the PC, short of disconnecting it from
the Internet, is to install and *properly* configure a firewall; just
installing one and letting it's default settings handle things is no
good. Unfortunately, this does require one to learn a little bit more
about using a computer than used to be necessary.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
Please stop deliberately posting potentially harmful advice.
Disabling the messenger service is a "head in the sand" approach
to computer security that leaves the PC vulnerable to threats such as
the W32.Blaster.Worm.
The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you're only
advice, however well-intended, was to turn off the warnings. How is
this helpful?
Equivalent Scenario: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as you are, replies, "Well,
don't do that."
The only true way to secure the PC, short of disconnecting it from
the Internet, is to install and *properly* configure a firewall; just
installing one and letting it's default settings handle things is no
good. Unfortunately, this does require one to learn a little bit more
about using a computer than used to be necessary.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
J
Jim Byrd
Hi Carl - If you get popups even when your browser is not connected to the
Internet with a title bar reading "Messenger Service", then these are most
likely due to open NetBios TCP ports 135, 139 and 445 and UDP ports 135,
137-138 and a UDP port in the range of 1026-1029.. You really need to block
these with a firewall as a general protection measure. You can stop the
popups by turning off Messenger Service; however, this still leaves you
vulnerable. If you have an NT-based OS such as XP or Win2k, you should
probably also specifically block TCP 593, 4444 and UDP 69, 139, 445, and
install the very important 823980 patch from MS03-026, here:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823980 to block the Blaster worm..
See: Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904 which identifies reasons to
keep this service and steps to take if you do.
You can test your system and follow the 'Prevention' link to get additional
information here:
http://www.mynetwatchman.com/winpopuptester.asp Unless you have very good
reasons to keep this active, it should be turned off in Win2k and XP. Go
here and do what it says:
http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/ or, even better, get
MessageSubtract, free, here, which will give you flexible control of the
service and viewing of these messages:
http://www.intermute.com/messagesubtract/help.html Recommended.
(FWIW, ZoneAlarm's default Internet Zone firewall configuration blocks the
necessary ports to prevent this use of Messenger Service. I don't know the
situation with regard to other firewalls.)
Messenger Service is not per se Spyware or something that MS did wrong - It
provides a messaging capability which is useful for local intranets and is
also sometimes (albeit nowdays infrequently) used by some applications to
provide popup messaages to users. However, it can also be (and now
frequently is) used to introduce spam via this open NetBios channel.
For a single user home computer, it normally isn't needed and can be turned
off which will eliminate the spam popups. This DOESN'T, however, remove the
vulnerability of having these ports open, when in fact they aren't needed,
since they can be perverted in other ways as well, some of which can be much
more damaging than just a spam popup.
--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
In
Internet with a title bar reading "Messenger Service", then these are most
likely due to open NetBios TCP ports 135, 139 and 445 and UDP ports 135,
137-138 and a UDP port in the range of 1026-1029.. You really need to block
these with a firewall as a general protection measure. You can stop the
popups by turning off Messenger Service; however, this still leaves you
vulnerable. If you have an NT-based OS such as XP or Win2k, you should
probably also specifically block TCP 593, 4444 and UDP 69, 139, 445, and
install the very important 823980 patch from MS03-026, here:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823980 to block the Blaster worm..
See: Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904 which identifies reasons to
keep this service and steps to take if you do.
You can test your system and follow the 'Prevention' link to get additional
information here:
http://www.mynetwatchman.com/winpopuptester.asp Unless you have very good
reasons to keep this active, it should be turned off in Win2k and XP. Go
here and do what it says:
http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/ or, even better, get
MessageSubtract, free, here, which will give you flexible control of the
service and viewing of these messages:
http://www.intermute.com/messagesubtract/help.html Recommended.
(FWIW, ZoneAlarm's default Internet Zone firewall configuration blocks the
necessary ports to prevent this use of Messenger Service. I don't know the
situation with regard to other firewalls.)
Messenger Service is not per se Spyware or something that MS did wrong - It
provides a messaging capability which is useful for local intranets and is
also sometimes (albeit nowdays infrequently) used by some applications to
provide popup messaages to users. However, it can also be (and now
frequently is) used to introduce spam via this open NetBios channel.
For a single user home computer, it normally isn't needed and can be turned
off which will eliminate the spam popups. This DOESN'T, however, remove the
vulnerability of having these ports open, when in fact they aren't needed,
since they can be perverted in other ways as well, some of which can be much
more damaging than just a spam popup.
--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
In
K
Kevin Davis³
Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?
Oh, and don't forget that the Messenger Service would also provide a
useful service to hackers if it is not patched:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/ms03-043.asp
Setup a firewall first, but if you don't need the Messenger Service,
turn it off. If you need it, patch it. You would also be well
advised to spend $50 and buy a home router.
Be especially wary of people who would insist on having you keep the
Messenger Service on as a "helpful feature" and conveniently
forgetting to inform you that it has a very serious vulnerability that
needs to be patched immediately.
And of particular interest is that Microsoft itself and security
experts are seriously reconsidering the role of the Messenger service:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/10/28/HNmessengeroff_1.html
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,113321,tk,dn110703X,00.asp
http://news.com.com/2100-7355_3-5095935.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/11/07/microsoft.popup.reut/index.html
Here's a link where Microsoft actually outright advises the user to
turn off the Messenger Service:
http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Those who would advise not to turn off the Messenger Service for the
less than trivial unintended side benefit of being a warning is
dispensing advice which contradicts the advice of many real security
professionals.
K
Kevin Davis³
Greetings --
Please stop deliberately posting potentially harmful advice.
Um, like telling people that the Messenger Service is valuable for
alerting you to your machine being open and on top of that not telling
them it has a serious vulnerability that needs to be patched?
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