Manufacturer Never attached COA label and I need to build a new PC due to lightning. HELP!!!

P

Perdita X. Nightmare

Your both partially right. Bruce is correct in saying that you should have
ensured the COA was attached when you got it, and contacted the manufacturer
when you realized it wasn't. HOWEVER, the buyer should not be screwed over
because they didn't check, (the car analogy was a good one,) and most people
don't even know what the COA is.
 
G

G.L. Cross

Perdita X. Nightmare said:
This is just getting ridiculous. Unfortuneatly for G.L. he should have
looked into what he was actually getting. He has fallen victim to bad
circumstances, only worsened by not looking into what an OEM version is.
There's nothing more he can really do except go and buy a retail copy of XP,
and learn from this lesson. There's no need for bad mouthing or yelling.
Let's just leave this at that.

Think so eh? Today I discovered something rather amazing. Would you like to
know how to convert an OEM copy into a RETAIL copy? I kid you not!! There IS
a way....


- G
 
P

Perdita X. Nightmare

And that would be?

G.L. Cross said:
Think so eh? Today I discovered something rather amazing. Would you like to
know how to convert an OEM copy into a RETAIL copy? I kid you not!! There IS
a way....


- G
 
G

G.L. Cross

Perdita X. Nightmare said:
And that would be?

OKAY...

*** DISCLAIMER: I have not finished all my research nor have I actually
tested the following
procedure. You will need to perform the following steps correctly and in
order:

(1) Install XP on a clean drive (best). DO NOT ACTIVATE OR INSTALL THE SP1
AT THIS TIME!!!
Use the KEY, OEM or not, that you currently have to perform this first
step.

(2) Click "Start" in the lower-left of your screen and enter the command
"regedit" then click OK.
WARNING: Editing the registry can be dangerous. Be VERY careful when you
make changes...

(3) Locate the REGISTRY KEY named,

"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows NT/CurrentVersion/WPAEvents"

This KEY has several values listed to the right, select the one called
"OBBETimer" and make a single
arbitrary change to one of the digits (i.e. double-click "71" and change it
to "44" or whatever). At this point,
Windows-XP is no longer activated (if it was previously). Click OK and close
the registry editor.

(4) Click "Start" at the bottom again, select "Run..." and type in the
command
"%systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe /a" then press ENTER. The "Activate
Windows" dialogue
box appears. Check the option for "Yes, I want to telephone a customer
service representative to
activate Windows" and click "Next"

(5) Select "Change Product Key" (DO NOT ACTUALLY CALL A CUSTOMER REP). Then
enter a new KEY (many KEY generators are out there. Also be sure to test it
on a running system
because sometimes Microsoft will blacklist certain CD KEYs). Use one that
does not have the string
"OEM" as part of the 15-digit KEY. Carefully check your typing, then click
"Update"

(6) At the next window, click "Remind me later" and reboot.

(7) Rerun the same command you did in step (4). This time however (if
everything was done correctly),
if you see "Windows is already Activated" (you are now safe and windows will
NEVER ask you to
activate again. This happens if you generated a Windows-XP Corporate install
KEY. If windows requests
you to activate it, DON'T. Go to Google and locate a hack called "Reset
v5.02 for Windows XP,
SP1, .NET and 2003". IMPORTANT: reboot into SAFE mode (this patch changes a
system file that is
locked at all other times), run the patch, and reboot back to normal mode.
At this point, the OS will
NEVER ask you to "activate" it again (which, or course means you could
repeat this procedure on multiple
computers because the activation step is eliminated).

(8) NOW, install the service Pack 1 and enjoy a little more freedom!!!

*** REMEMBER THAT I AM STILL DOING RESEARCH ON THIS SO BE CAREFUL!!! ***


- G.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

The car analogy may be valid.
However Ford (Microsoft) did not make this particular car, another
manufacturer (unknown by the OP) manufactured it.
Ford will not support for free another unknown brand and neither
should Microsoft.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

This procedure works very well and is well documented on Microsoft's
site...at least through step 4.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328874
After that, the suggestions are good only for pirates and thieves.
It probably will not work because of the different types of the OSs.
If it does work for now, there will likely be a problem in the future.
But then with your paper credentials, perhaps you will figure that out
before you are to late.
I have no desire to test it since I am not a pirate or thief.
 
G

G.L. Cross

Jupiter Jones said:
The car analogy may be valid.
However Ford (Microsoft) did not make this particular car, another
manufacturer (unknown by the OP) manufactured it.
Ford will not support for free another unknown brand and neither
should Microsoft.

Everybody here seems to believe that Bill is "such a swell guy". 8-()
I don't know but maybe most of you work for him as far as I know.
I had always thought that OEM licensing was to benefit third party
vendors by lowering the costs of parts and software due to the large
quantities they buy. Shifting of the support to these third party vendors
is also very logical. But when it comes to the end-user, every thing should
work perfectly (yeah! but,). These are the people who make folks like
Dell, Gateway, and Microsoft rich. And in return these end users should
be treated with the utmost of respect. A happy customer will probably
come back again. Whether it turns out to be legal or not (which is yet
to be determined), interfering with the ability of an end-user to repair,
upgrade, customize, or update his equipment is probably one of the
stupidest mistakes Microsoft has ever made. Apple and Linux are both
gaining market share and that pace is increasing. Mr. Gates has what I'll
call a "piracy paranoia complex." Piracy is going to happen no matter what.
But it can't be as rampant as Bill claims or else he wouldn't be very rich!
The company should take the approach that the cost of the small amount
of piracy normally expected anyway is going to be far outweighed by the
income from the much vaster pool of customers who legitimately buy the
licensed copies!! I noticed in the EULA that in one place it states that
"Microsoft has said that if it ever becomes not worthwhile for them to keep
this activation system going, they will take steps to allow users to disable
it."
I cringe when I try to imagine the amount of money spent to put this
activation
system in place (hundreds of thousands of man-years, tens of millions of
dollars to support an unbelievable amount of record-keeping, and the worst
loss of all is its resultant erosion of the customer base itself. Microsoft
software
has a reputation for containing some of the strangest software bugs of any
company in the word. Concentrate on putting out a high quality product and
go out of your way to do whatever it takes to keep your customers happy
and Microsoft would stand to gain a hell of a lot more than anything lost
to a little piracy. Most people are VERY distrustful of things like machines
"calling in" and reporting mysterious information. They get very irate when
stuff just simply doesn't work right then compound that with an 80 minute
wait to
get through to customer service for help. So what do you suppose the
reaction
is to something that (for them) amounts to blatant extortion? If I were to
go into
the business of providing "fixed" copies of Windows-XP (or whatever), now
couldn't be a better time to do it. Take a stroll around the Internet.
Everywhere
you turn, folks are having all manner of "major" problems with Microsoft's
software.
And who do they turn to for advice on fixing these problems? It's not
Microsoft
Customer Service! They post to news groups, tell each other "war stories,"
and
for lack of satisfactory resolution of these problems, turn to whatever is
the easiest,
cheapest, and fastest method to get going again. And guess what? All that
piracy
Bill is worried about is exploding into an industry of its own!! Why?
Because to
the average Joe, the Hackers are providing far better support than Microsoft
is
capable of. Joe only wants it fixed, hassle-free, and inexpensive. These
three
things in combination is the force driving a sudden out-of-control black
market
in stolen, hacked, and pirated software products. It will only get much
worse Bill,
stop it now while you still can...


- G.
 

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