MacOSX/WinXP/HP4mv - how to make them all see each other?

[Annie Abbott]

Oh my goodness, I'm so lost.

I had a Mac 7100 and a Mac 6100 and an HP 4mv all connected via FriendlyNet
(LocalTalk?) and everything worked just ducky. I also had an old HP Pavilion
Pentium 166mz connected to the HP 4mv's parallel port and that worked just
ducky.

So the 6100 died and I inherited a G4 with OSX. At the same time, I scrapped
the old PeeCee and bought one on eBay with WinXP. I also bought an ethernet
hub. So now I have:

PeeCee with WinXP, two ethernet cards. One connected to cable modem, the
other connected to ethernet hub. WinXP set up as a router.
Mac G4 with OSX, connected to ethernet hub. It gets Internet access throught
the PeeCee.
Mac 7100 with OS 8.1, connected to ethernet hub. No Internet access required
or desired.
HP 4mv Laserjet, connected to ethernet hub. (PeeCee connected to HP4mv via
parallel port.)

Well....how do I get the G4/OSX to print to the HP4mv LaserJet? What
happened to the Chooser!! On the Mac 7100, I go to the Chooser and there's
the HP4mv. Click and print.

 

[William M. Smith]

Oh my goodness, I'm so lost.

I had a Mac 7100 and a Mac 6100 and an HP 4mv all connected via FriendlyNet
(LocalTalk?) and everything worked just ducky. I also had an old HP Pavilion
Pentium 166mz connected to the HP 4mv's parallel port and that worked just
ducky.

So the 6100 died and I inherited a G4 with OSX. At the same time, I scrapped
the old PeeCee and bought one on eBay with WinXP. I also bought an ethernet
hub. So now I have:

PeeCee with WinXP, two ethernet cards. One connected to cable modem, the
other connected to ethernet hub. WinXP set up as a router.
Mac G4 with OSX, connected to ethernet hub. It gets Internet access throught
the PeeCee.
Mac 7100 with OS 8.1, connected to ethernet hub. No Internet access required
or desired.
HP 4mv Laserjet, connected to ethernet hub. (PeeCee connected to HP4mv via
parallel port.)

Well....how do I get the G4/OSX to print to the HP4mv LaserJet? What
happened to the Chooser!! On the Mac 7100, I go to the Chooser and there's
the HP4mv. Click and print.

Hi Annie!

Welcome to OS X! Believe it or not, it's about as easy as the Chooser

Open any document that you wish to print and select Print from the File
menu.

Next to "Printer", choose Edit Print List in the drop-down menu. This will
open the Print Center (similar to Print Monitor).

Click the "Add" button and wait for your Mac to look over the network. In
the next window select Appletalk from the dropdown menu and you should see
your printer.

Hope this helps! bill

 

[Annie Abbott]

Mac G4 with OSX, connected to ethernet hub. It gets Internet access
throught

Open any document that you wish to print and select Print from the File
menu.
Next to "Printer", choose Edit Print List in the drop-down menu. This will
open the Print Center (similar to Print Monitor).
Click the "Add" button and wait for your Mac to look over the network. In
the next window select Appletalk from the dropdown menu and you should see
your printer.

Duh. That worked like a champ. I saw Appletalk and my mind thought
"LocalTalk", so I kept trying to add the printer using an IP address
(without success). I sure am doing a lot of complaining trying to learn my
way around OSX. I keep wailing, "Why did they change my Mac?!?!" And this
OS9/OSX/dual OS/Classic crap is the pits. I'm going crazy just trying to
find things. Sigh. It reminds me of when the Quadras were replaced by Power
Macs and we needed "fat" applications, but that situation wasn't as bad is
this dual OS nonsense.

Anyway, I digress.

This new(er) PC with WinXP has really impressed me, however. And as a Mac
gal who has told her share of PeeCee jokes, I'm taking a lot of guff from my
PeeCee friends who are reminding me of all the guff I've dished out in the
past. But WinXP saved me from having to buy a router and I (eventually) got
the WinXP box and the OSX box to see each other without buying anything like
Dave or PC-MacLan or Timbuktu. Very nice indeed. Ulp... dare I say it? "Way
to go Microsoft." Eek.

 

[William M. Smith]

This new(er) PC with WinXP has really impressed me, however. And as a Mac
gal who has told her share of PeeCee jokes, I'm taking a lot of guff from my
PeeCee friends who are reminding me of all the guff I've dished out in the
past. But WinXP saved me from having to buy a router and I (eventually) got
the WinXP box and the OSX box to see each other without buying anything like
Dave or PC-MacLan or Timbuktu. Very nice indeed. Ulp... dare I say it? "Way
to go Microsoft." Eek.

Hi Annie!

I think you can still give your PeeCee friends a little grief. Afterall,
it's not Microsoft that made it possible for your Mac and XP machine to
talk. That's Apple and open source development at work.

You're one of the few long time Mac users I've ever heard of giving Windows
a chance in your world and not reacting in a "bigoted" manner. Sounds like
you're actually giving it a chance to prove itself. XP is a really good
system although it can look like an explosion in a crayon factory.

Glad you're printing now and thanx for the feedback.

bill

 

[Joel S. Peskoff]

I'm glad that you got it working. OSX is far superior to
OS9 from a technical perspective. As an example, OSX
applications that crash won't force you to reboot the
entire Mac. I'm new to OSX (just a few months) and the
system hasn't crashed yet and it's on 24hrs a day.

Why you need dual OSX/OS9 systems is that OSX is a clean
departure from OS9 that makes OS9 applications not work.
So, Apple had the choice of forcing people to dump all
their old applications and buy new ones or make it
possible to run OS9 apps in a OS9 shell. I think they
made the right compromise.