looking for individuals to run local security groups

[Brad Dinerman (MVP - Enterprise Security)]

Hello,

My name is Brad Dinerman. I am the founder and president of the
National Information Security Group (NAISG, http://www.naisg.org). We
are a US chapter-based organization of security professionals. Each
chapter typically holds monthly meetings, but we also provide a number
of online resources and an internationally recognized TechTips email
list. Membership is ALWAYS free to the general public; there are no
annual dues or fees. Our membership includes top notch security
professionals, but the only requirement to join is that you have an
*interest* in information security. You do not need to be a CISSP, MCSE
or any other acronym.

As of today, we have chapters in:

* Boston, MA
* New York City
* Seattle, WA (coming soon)
* Washington, DC (coming soon)
* Silicon Valley, CA (coming soon)

*We are looking for individuals who would be interested to form and lead
chapters in other cities, whether in the US or even other countries.*
The time commitment is not tremendous, and the position is totally
voluntary. You would run the chapter simply for the enjoyment of
promoting security.

NAISG has excellent ties with the FBI, Infragard and local
law-enforcement agencies. Members include administrators, managers,
executive, law enforcement, educators/students and more. Members of the
local press frequently attend meetings and do write-ups in their
respective publications.

If this is of interest to you, please check out our Web site at
http://www.naisg.org. There are details there about some of the
requirements and benefits of creating a chapter.

Yours,
Brad Dinerman

--


_______________________________________________
Bradley J. Dinerman, MVP - Enterprise Security
President, National Information Security Group
http://www.naisg.org

 

[VanguardLH]

in message

My name is Brad Dinerman. I am the founder and president of the
National Information Security Group (NAISG, http://www.naisg.org).

<snip>

This MVP is listed at http://www.mvps.org/links.html but his
www.neisug.com site can't be reached or doesn't exist. Guess he
hasn't updated his OpenDNS account so it points at his current dynamic
IP address. Or maybe he needs to update his MVPS information.
Hopefully he keeps mydyndns updated since he uses that DNS service for
his new www.naisg.org site.

It appears that security wizards don't know that you do *not* use HTML
when posting to newsgroups.

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "VanguardLH" <[email protected]>

< snip >

|
| It appears that security wizards don't know that you do *not* use HTML
| when posting to newsgroups.
|

I was thinking the SAME thing!

 

[Brad Dinerman (MVP - Enterprise Security)]

VanguardLH,

Thank you for pointing out in your very gentle and non-sarcastic way
about my URL and posting.

I have requested that the URL at mvps.org be updated. I did not realize
that it was still listed there, so that was an oversight.

And my newsreader was actually configured to send in both HTML AND
plain-text format, but I will change that to accommodate your requirements.

Yours,
Brad Dinerman

in message

<snip>

This MVP is listed at http://www.mvps.org/links.html but his
www.neisug.com site can't be reached or doesn't exist. Guess he
hasn't updated his OpenDNS account so it points at his current dynamic
IP address. Or maybe he needs to update his MVPS information.
Hopefully he keeps mydyndns updated since he uses that DNS service for
his new www.naisg.org site.

It appears that security wizards don't know that you do *not* use HTML
when posting to newsgroups.

--


_______________________________________________
Bradley J. Dinerman, MVP - Enterprise Security
President, National Information Security Group
http://www.naisg.org

 

[Mick Murphy]

Van; if you click on his website link from your reply post, you go straight
there!

 

[VanguardLH]

in message

Van; if you click on his website link from your reply post, you go
straight
there!

Nope. His old www.neisug.com doesn't work because either the site no
longer exists or Brad forgot to update his OpenDNS account to point at
whatever IP address is for his old site. He could probably even have
OpenDNS point his old IP name to the IP address of his new site in
case he has the old URL published anywhere else. If you click on THIS
link to his old site, you end up with an OpenDNS failure page (because
the IP address recorded for that IP name is no longer valid; i.e., the
host doesn't exist for that IP address). As Brad said, he needs to
update the MVPS.org site regarding his information there.

When someone claims to be an MVP that I don't recognize, I visit the
biglist page at MVPS.org to verify that who they claim they are is
actually listed as an MVP. I have seen some posters that claimed to
be an MVP but were not.

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

:
: When someone claims to be an MVP that I don't recognize, I visit the
: biglist page at MVPS.org to verify that who they claim they are is
: actually listed as an MVP. I have seen some posters that claimed to
: be an MVP but were not.

Not all MVPs choose to have themselves listed on mvps.org, or publicly on
the MS site.

Tom
:

 

[VanguardLH]

in message

Not all MVPs choose to have themselves listed on mvps.org, or
publicly on
the MS site.

Then where is the verification that someone did not self-nominate
themself as an MVP? If someone puts a certificate on the wall, they
had better expect that someone might actually check that the paper is
valid. Odd that someone who was nominated and elected to be an MVP -
and who CHOSE to be elected and nominated - decides to hide that fact.
A doctor whose credentials you cannot verify should NOT be trusted.
Same for MVPs.

 

[Brad Dinerman [MVP - Enterprise Security]]

MVPs.org is definitely not the authoritative list of MVPs. As you had
observed, my Web site link was out of date on that list. My original
site was http://www.neisug.com, but we decommissioned that quite a while
ago as our group evolved into http://www.naisg.org.

Personally, I visit mvps.org once per year or less, so I did not notice
that the link still pointed to the old site and forgot to notify them.
That's all there is to it; nothing more and nothing less.

If you want an authoritative list of MVPs, then go to
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx. That is the
ONLY list that is considered official by Microsoft. All MVPs will be
listed there, though the amount of information that is available about
any given MVP is at the discretion of that individual. Some MVPs list
as much information as possible, others are more humble or concerned
about their privacy.

Also, for what it's worth, MVPs do not choose to be nominated as you
indicated. Anyone can be nominated by anyone else with or without their
consent. However, the MVP must decide whether to accept it if the
nomination is turned into an award.


_______________________________________________
Bradley J. Dinerman, MVP - Enterprise Security
President, National Information Security Group
http://www.naisg.org

 

[VanguardLH]

If you want an authoritative list of MVPs, then go to
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx.

Oh, forgot about that list. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[VanguardLH]

Also, for what it's worth, MVPs do not choose to be nominated as you
indicated. Anyone can be nominated by anyone else with or without
their consent. However, the MVP must decide whether to accept it if
the nomination is turned into an award.

That's not what I meant. Someone, like an MVP, might contact you to
*ask* if you want to be nominated. You don't have to accept. No one
can force you to be an MVP. I got asked if I wanted to be nominated
and I declined. You get to choose if you get nominated when contacted
to ask if you want to be nominated. It's not like you get nominated
in absentia.

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

Not *all* MVPs will be listed there. Some have chosen not to be listed. It
is an option.


--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP
===

: If you want an authoritative list of MVPs, then go to
: https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx. That is the
: ONLY list that is considered official by Microsoft. All MVPs will be
: listed there, though the amount of information that is available about
: any given MVP is at the discretion of that individual. Some MVPs list
: as much information as possible, others are more humble or concerned
: about their privacy.
:

 

[Mick Murphy]

I have my suspicions about a Carey Frisch who posts in these Newsgroups, and
claims to be a MVP.
I wish that site you gave had a search engine!

Regards

 

[Mick Murphy]

som, I have my doubts about a Carey Frisch that posta in these newsgroups
claiming to be an MVP.
But, there is no search engine at that MVPS.org site.

Regards.

 

[Mick Murphy]

Brad, that link to MVPs you have given here is not working.

Why I am asking, is that I have my suspicions about a certain Carey Frisch
who claims to be an MVP.

Carey Frisch has correctly answered 186 questions in 3 and 1/2 years; not
MVP qualifications.
The claimed Award is for "Windows Desktop Experience"-"Windows System and
Maintenance"

Thank you for any help you can provide!
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

MVPs.org is definitely not the authoritative list of MVPs. As you had
observed, my Web site link was out of date on that list. My original
site was http://www.neisug.com, but we decommissioned that quite a while
ago as our group evolved into http://www.naisg.org.

Personally, I visit mvps.org once per year or less, so I did not notice
that the link still pointed to the old site and forgot to notify them.
That's all there is to it; nothing more and nothing less.

If you want an authoritative list of MVPs, then go to
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx. That is the
ONLY list that is considered official by Microsoft. All MVPs will be
listed there, though the amount of information that is available about
any given MVP is at the discretion of that individual. Some MVPs list
as much information as possible, others are more humble or concerned
about their privacy.

Also, for what it's worth, MVPs do not choose to be nominated as you
indicated. Anyone can be nominated by anyone else with or without their
consent. However, the MVP must decide whether to accept it if the
nomination is turned into an award.


_______________________________________________
Bradley J. Dinerman, MVP - Enterprise Security
President, National Information Security Group
http://www.naisg.org

in message



Then where is the verification that someone did not self-nominate
themself as an MVP? If someone puts a certificate on the wall, they had
better expect that someone might actually check that the paper is
valid. Odd that someone who was nominated and elected to be an MVP -
and who CHOSE to be elected and nominated - decides to hide that fact. A
doctor whose credentials you cannot verify should NOT be trusted. Same
for MVPs.

 

[Mick Murphy]

Brad, that link to find out if someone really is an MVP does not work!!
I have my suspicions about a poster here who clains to be an MVP.

His name is: Carey Frisch

Your help would be appreciated
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

MVPs.org is definitely not the authoritative list of MVPs. As you had
observed, my Web site link was out of date on that list. My original
site was http://www.neisug.com, but we decommissioned that quite a while
ago as our group evolved into http://www.naisg.org.

Personally, I visit mvps.org once per year or less, so I did not notice
that the link still pointed to the old site and forgot to notify them.
That's all there is to it; nothing more and nothing less.

If you want an authoritative list of MVPs, then go to
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx. That is the
ONLY list that is considered official by Microsoft. All MVPs will be
listed there, though the amount of information that is available about
any given MVP is at the discretion of that individual. Some MVPs list
as much information as possible, others are more humble or concerned
about their privacy.

Also, for what it's worth, MVPs do not choose to be nominated as you
indicated. Anyone can be nominated by anyone else with or without their
consent. However, the MVP must decide whether to accept it if the
nomination is turned into an award.


_______________________________________________
Bradley J. Dinerman, MVP - Enterprise Security
President, National Information Security Group
http://www.naisg.org

in message



Then where is the verification that someone did not self-nominate
themself as an MVP? If someone puts a certificate on the wall, they had
better expect that someone might actually check that the paper is
valid. Odd that someone who was nominated and elected to be an MVP -
and who CHOSE to be elected and nominated - decides to hide that fact. A
doctor whose credentials you cannot verify should NOT be trusted. Same
for MVPs.

 

[Paul Adare]

Brad, that link to find out if someone really is an MVP does not work!!
I have my suspicions about a poster here who clains to be an MVP.

His name is: Carey Frisch

Your help would be appreciated

Ok, you really don't need to post the same question that many times. Carey,
as of now, is indeed an MVP.

 

[Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM]

That link works.
The list is not comprehensive.
Carey Frisch IS an MVP.

Brad, that link to find out if someone really is an MVP does not work!!
I have my suspicions about a poster here who clains to be an MVP.

His name is: Carey Frisch

Your help would be appreciated
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

MVPs.org is definitely not the authoritative list of MVPs. As you had
observed, my Web site link was out of date on that list. My original
site was http://www.neisug.com, but we decommissioned that quite a while
ago as our group evolved into http://www.naisg.org.

Personally, I visit mvps.org once per year or less, so I did not notice
that the link still pointed to the old site and forgot to notify them.
That's all there is to it; nothing more and nothing less.

If you want an authoritative list of MVPs, then go to
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx. That is the
ONLY list that is considered official by Microsoft. All MVPs will be
listed there, though the amount of information that is available about
any given MVP is at the discretion of that individual. Some MVPs list
as much information as possible, others are more humble or concerned
about their privacy.

Also, for what it's worth, MVPs do not choose to be nominated as you
indicated. Anyone can be nominated by anyone else with or without their
consent. However, the MVP must decide whether to accept it if the
nomination is turned into an award.

in message

When someone claims to be an MVP that I don't recognize, I visit the
biglist page at MVPS.org to verify that who they claim they are is
actually listed as an MVP. I have seen some posters that claimed to
be an MVP but were not.

Not all MVPs choose to have themselves listed on mvps.org, or publicly
on
the MS site.


Then where is the verification that someone did not self-nominate
themself as an MVP? If someone puts a certificate on the wall, they
had
better expect that someone might actually check that the paper is
valid. Odd that someone who was nominated and elected to be an MVP -
and who CHOSE to be elected and nominated - decides to hide that fact.
A
doctor whose credentials you cannot verify should NOT be trusted. Same
for MVPs

 

[Mick Murphy]

Thank you Paul, for your reply!

 

[Mick Murphy]

Frank, thank you for your reply
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

That link works.
The list is not comprehensive.
Carey Frisch IS an MVP.

Brad, that link to find out if someone really is an MVP does not work!!
I have my suspicions about a poster here who clains to be an MVP.

His name is: Carey Frisch

Your help would be appreciated
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

MVPs.org is definitely not the authoritative list of MVPs. As you had
observed, my Web site link was out of date on that list. My original
site was http://www.neisug.com, but we decommissioned that quite a while
ago as our group evolved into http://www.naisg.org.

Personally, I visit mvps.org once per year or less, so I did not notice
that the link still pointed to the old site and forgot to notify them.
That's all there is to it; nothing more and nothing less.

If you want an authoritative list of MVPs, then go to
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx. That is the
ONLY list that is considered official by Microsoft. All MVPs will be
listed there, though the amount of information that is available about
any given MVP is at the discretion of that individual. Some MVPs list
as much information as possible, others are more humble or concerned
about their privacy.

Also, for what it's worth, MVPs do not choose to be nominated as you
indicated. Anyone can be nominated by anyone else with or without their
consent. However, the MVP must decide whether to accept it if the
nomination is turned into an award.

VanguardLH wrote:
in message

When someone claims to be an MVP that I don't recognize, I visit the
biglist page at MVPS.org to verify that who they claim they are is
actually listed as an MVP. I have seen some posters that claimed to
be an MVP but were not.

Not all MVPs choose to have themselves listed on mvps.org, or publicly
on
the MS site.


Then where is the verification that someone did not self-nominate
themself as an MVP? If someone puts a certificate on the wall, they
had
better expect that someone might actually check that the paper is
valid. Odd that someone who was nominated and elected to be an MVP -
and who CHOSE to be elected and nominated - decides to hide that fact.
A
doctor whose credentials you cannot verify should NOT be trusted. Same
for MVPs