LMAO...!!!! Microsoft: Asia not playing fair over OS

[pwr cybernautics]

A plan by Japan, China and South Korea to develop an operating system
alternative to Microsoft's Windows software could raise concerns over
fair competition, Microsoft said Friday.

Oh my God, does this mean that Microsoft is finally getting a taste of
their own medicin..???


http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5072069.html?tag=fd_top

 

[kurttrail]

A plan by Japan, China and South Korea to develop an operating system
alternative to Microsoft's Windows software could raise concerns over
fair competition, Microsoft said Friday.

Oh my God, does this mean that Microsoft is finally getting a taste of
their own medicin..???


http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5072069.html?tag=fd_top

Ms is afraid of fair competition, because that's something that's never
happened in the x86 OS market.

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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Not that this is relevant to the news group, but how does this
make Microsoft any different from the American automobile
manufacturers, the American steel industry, the American
semi-conductor manufacturers, American electronics manufacturers, et
al, when they all complain loudly about having to compete with their
government-sponsored/-subsidized Asian counterparts?

Such mindless, knee-jerk "anti-Microsoft-ism" as you delight in
really isn't particularly intelligent, you know. Have you ever
actually given any thought to this - or any other - matter?


Bruce Chambers

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[kurttrail]

Greetings --

Not that this is relevant to the news group, but how does this
make Microsoft any different from the American automobile
manufacturers, the American steel industry, the American
semi-conductor manufacturers, American electronics manufacturers, et
al, when they all complain loudly about having to compete with their
government-sponsored/-subsidized Asian counterparts?

Such mindless, knee-jerk "anti-Microsoft-ism" as you delight in
really isn't particularly intelligent, you know. Have you ever
actually given any thought to this - or any other - matter?

I would guess he gave much more thought than you did about your rabid
advocacy for MS.

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[Stephen]

I tend to agree with Microsoft here.

The various government(s) don't need to be developing desktop operating
systems when there are plenty of commercial and OSS operating systems
available already. e.g. RedHat and Microsoft both sell servers. Governments
developing for one group to the deliberate exclusion and precluding of the
other is not fair.

In Canada, Microsoft is a corporate citizen as much as any other software
vendor here. They deserve fair treatment in bidding, contracting, tendoring
etc. etc. Precluding them would be a gross injustice.

It does not surprise me in the least that Red Communist China, well known
for its fairness, freedom and free speech - ha ha, would come out
deliberately against Microsoft. It does surprise me that free-market Japan
and South Korea could be making such a blunder .. Maybe they are trying to
appease their Communist neighbour .. people always seem to be so willing to
overlook the oppressions these days.

Anyway

The reasons they give are spurious.

E.g. that Windows needs patching. Sure it does, but REDHAT Linux has quite
an extensive patch list for RH Linux ver. 7.2 thru 9 [ approx. the same
period since WinXP came out ]. An unpatched Linux installation is like Swiss
cheese - full of holes. So the fact that Windows needs occasional patching
is no reason at all because every other OS needs as much.

Also e.g. The article quotes: "A-different-kind-of-software-code" What do
they mean, JavaScript !!? To me it sounds like they are just anti-Microsoft
and/or don't even know what they are talking about.

Also e.g. that Microsoft has 'too much control' over the PC industry. Bonk.
The PC plaform is about as open as a platform can get. You can run all sorts
of operating systems [OS/2 Linux FreeBSD OS/2 FreeDOS MS-DOS Windows etc.
etc.]on it and if you do run Windows, the ***open standard*** of Win32 gives
everyone access to the Windows platform. You can program whatever you want
and it will run on Windows. And when it comes to 'personal computing' if
the PC isn't to your liking you can buy a Mac for that matter or a Sun
workstation - but why would you? The PC plaform is more open - about as open
as you can get! Microsoft is great PC software, why exclude them - you'd
just be cutting off your nose despite your face.

Better would be that the government(s) be fair.

Stephen

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| A plan by Japan, China and South Korea to develop an operating system
| alternative to Microsoft's Windows software could raise concerns over
| fair competition, Microsoft said Friday.
|
| Oh my God, does this mean that Microsoft is finally getting a taste of
| their own medicin..???
|
|
| http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5072069.html?tag=fd_top
|
|

 

[Bernie]

And let's not forget that Microsoft has a well documented history of playing
fair.
Let's forget Real Networks, Netscape, BeOS, SCO vs Linux, Burst Tech., DrDOS
and the hundreds of other corporations and technologies they have embraced,
smothered or outright stolen etc.
Oh we'll pay you $23,250,000.00 in a settlement but in return we want to be
able to say we did no wrong.
What a crock of shit.
Why am I paying full suggested retail for the operating system when India
gets to pay $36.00 and doesn't have to put up with this activation bullshit.
It's about time someone slapped them down because it's obvious the U.S.
Executive and Judicial system isn't going to.
Government's primary responsibility is to protect it's citizen's, even from
over priced, insecure operating systems and corporations selling said
software.
Our Gov. on the other hand specifically states such things as the recent
power blackout was not a result of computer malfunction due to recent worms
and viruses, however
http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/recovery/story/0,10801,
84510,00.html?SKC=news84510 and a host of other links when one searches
suggest otherwise.
Who's protecting who. Our Gov. is protecting big business currently, and
could care less about it's expendable worker bees.
I'm a registered Republican but I'm going to switch sides next election as
it's obvious to me that the current admin. has no care for my well being
whatsoever.
Bernie

I tend to agree with Microsoft here.

The various government(s) don't need to be developing desktop operating
systems when there are plenty of commercial and OSS operating systems
available already. e.g. RedHat and Microsoft both sell servers. Governments
developing for one group to the deliberate exclusion and precluding of the
other is not fair.

In Canada, Microsoft is a corporate citizen as much as any other software
vendor here. They deserve fair treatment in bidding, contracting, tendoring
etc. etc. Precluding them would be a gross injustice.

It does not surprise me in the least that Red Communist China, well known
for its fairness, freedom and free speech - ha ha, would come out
deliberately against Microsoft. It does surprise me that free-market Japan
and South Korea could be making such a blunder .. Maybe they are trying to
appease their Communist neighbour .. people always seem to be so willing to
overlook the oppressions these days.

Anyway

The reasons they give are spurious.

E.g. that Windows needs patching. Sure it does, but REDHAT Linux has quite
an extensive patch list for RH Linux ver. 7.2 thru 9 [ approx. the same
period since WinXP came out ]. An unpatched Linux installation is like Swiss
cheese - full of holes. So the fact that Windows needs occasional patching
is no reason at all because every other OS needs as much.

Also e.g. The article quotes: "A-different-kind-of-software-code" What do
they mean, JavaScript !!? To me it sounds like they are just anti-Microsoft
and/or don't even know what they are talking about.

Also e.g. that Microsoft has 'too much control' over the PC industry. Bonk.
The PC plaform is about as open as a platform can get. You can run all sorts
of operating systems [OS/2 Linux FreeBSD OS/2 FreeDOS MS-DOS Windows etc.
etc.]on it and if you do run Windows, the ***open standard*** of Win32 gives
everyone access to the Windows platform. You can program whatever you want
and it will run on Windows. And when it comes to 'personal computing' if
the PC isn't to your liking you can buy a Mac for that matter or a Sun
workstation - but why would you? The PC plaform is more open - about as open
as you can get! Microsoft is great PC software, why exclude them - you'd
just be cutting off your nose despite your face.

Better would be that the government(s) be fair.

Stephen

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Drop 123 to email me.


| A plan by Japan, China and South Korea to develop an operating system
| alternative to Microsoft's Windows software could raise concerns over
| fair competition, Microsoft said Friday.
|
| Oh my God, does this mean that Microsoft is finally getting a taste of
| their own medicin..???
|
|
| http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5072069.html?tag=fd_top
|
|

 

[foamy]

Not that this is relevant to the news group, but how does this
make Microsoft any different from the American automobile
manufacturers, the American steel industry, the American
semi-conductor manufacturers, American electronics manufacturers, et
al, when they all complain loudly about having to compete with their
government-sponsored/-subsidized Asian counterparts?

Such mindless, knee-jerk "anti-Microsoft-ism" as you delight in
really isn't particularly intelligent, you know. Have you ever
actually given any thought to this - or any other - matter?

You don't see the slightest bit of irony or humor in Microsoft
raising the question of_fairness_ in competition ?

I think it's bloody hilarious.

Jim

 

[pwr cybernautics]

You don't see the slightest bit of irony or humor in Microsoft
raising the question of_fairness_ in competition ?

I think it's bloody hilarious.

Jim

Jim, want to have a few more laughs over Microsoft's
"Fairness_in_competition"..?

read on:

http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5072391.html?tag=cd_mh

;-)

 

[Stephen]

I don't feel that way about it. If you check RedHat's website you will
realize that their version of Linux has similarly long a list of patches as
Windows. If you installed what RH was offering when Windows XP came out but
didn't patch the Linux you'd have an OS today that was like Swiss cheese it
would have so many holes - you'd be rooted and uprooted and rerooted before
midnight eveynight.

My WinXP Home came with a colourful folder, a cool holographic CD-ROM, and
an admittedly much too small manual. But then the book writers handle the
manual business these days for many of the OSes available. It's just a no
brainer that I go out and buy a book when I get a new OS or software suite.

Sure, back in the olden days Microsoft Office and the like came with massive
amounts of dcumentation. And that was great. But unfortunately it really
eats into profits. But then book writers need the business so ..

Besides, the price of Windows has stayed pretty much the same for some time
now which is pretty decent IMO.

Stephen
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| I have never been able to easily fit the words "fairness" and
"Microsoft"
| into the same sentence.
|
| Yes, I believe Microsoft is like a stupid drunk who is about to get bitch
| slapped and does not like it. It is still going to happen.
|
| I am actively shopping for Linux since the latest wholesale hole issue in
| the hugely expensive WinXP. Hole after hole after hole and MS somehow
thinks
| we all had better pledge allegiance and just take what they decide to put
in
| a box.
|
| This is really stupid to bring up but here goes. I went out recently and
| purchased Quicken for just over $35. It came very well packaged. It came
in
| a very sturdy jewel case. I paid $130 for WinXP. It came in a paper
envelope
| with a thin child's booklet of instructions. The respect MS has for my
| money is all over my system. I have purchased expensive software to
protect
| myself from shoddy code wrapped cheap and sold at a premium. I am fed up
and
| I know a lot of the computing public is taking the same wind in their
sails.
|
| Just my 2 C worth of how the competitive capitalist system drives the
| market. If Microsoft can't play, I won't pay.
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| pwr cybernautics wrote:
| > A plan by Japan, China and South Korea to develop an operating system
| > alternative to Microsoft's Windows software could raise concerns over
| > fair competition, Microsoft said Friday.
| >
| > Oh my God, does this mean that Microsoft is finally getting a taste of
| > their own medicin..???
| >
| >
| > http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5072069.html?tag=fd_top
|
|

 

[Steve Sweet]

Hi "pwr cybernautics"

A plan by Japan, China and South Korea to develop an operating system
alternative to Microsoft's Windows software could raise concerns over
fair competition, Microsoft said Friday.

That puts another slant on the "Red Book" standard!. 8~)