lets make a linux better than vista

[deebs]

The word should be популÑрно

 

[deebs]

As an example, I have an "old" P200MMX based machine, a laptop running XP
Home and this beatie being what it is (hope to have a Mac pro soon) and my
computer "utility" company would profer a contract to cover four machines
with an OS dedicated to the architecture of those four machines?

It could suggest/offer a best way to integrate all of these into a home
network along with digital online TV equivalents maybe on a basis of
cellnet/mobile phones?

The utility company also has suitable Aero'ed vans sunning around in the
high street delivering services to all of its domestic/commercial customers?

The OS has ceased to be the major factor, service has started to become the
core factor?

While this model may verge on the surreal (it is lateral) i think it is
feasible, do-able, pragmatic and practical.

It also takes IT from what it is to a utility status?

 

[Bernie]

I don't wish to give an incorrect impression. Google was a name that
sprung to mind in a stream of consciousness way while tapping the keys
of this keyboard.

You aren't the first to come up with Google.

However if "world domination" is important (and i guess the models I've
posited depend/demand high volumes merely on the basis of a utilities
model) the the brand has to be regional. with a universal flavour.

So in English speaking regions "popular" may suffice, but in Russia
Google ?????????

I don't think the name is that important. What the hell did the word
"Google" mean before Google? What is important is that the product
really meets the needs and wants of non techies and techies alike. I
don't think it is that important where it comes from either. A small
group of technically knowledgeable people with the right attitude and no
money could do it just as well, if not better, than a corporate giant.
The advantage of the giant would be speed of getting to market but ICQ,
Skype, Winamp and a host of other things started very small indeed and
grew because they had a great product that was spread by word of
broadband mouth.

 

[deebs]

It will be interesting to see what (if anything) happens.

I do believe that the time is right for a utilities based approach in
some regions.

It would seem to add a formal framework towards excellence that could be
rolled out on a regional basis as demand triggered a switch from an "as
is" model to a utilities model?

 

[Bernie]

It will be interesting to see what (if anything) happens.

I do believe that the time is right for a utilities based approach in
some regions.

It would seem to add a formal framework towards excellence that could be
rolled out on a regional basis as demand triggered a switch from an "as
is" model to a utilities model?

What do you think we have now?

 

[John Jay Smith]

The internet is not free? Cant you go online and surf without paying
someone?

I am not saying that there not a cost attached to the development of it,
but people are investing money to make more money out of it. I see that as a
reverse cost, or a money generator.
Still laughing?
So the OS will be free as a platform, people will invest in making new
products for it.
Will there be money involved? Of course! I dont see it as lost money
though...
it generates money.
It is not me who does not understand how wealth is created, generated,
invested etc.

Its not your fault.. I understand why you have these wrong notions.. but
please...

 

[John Jay Smith]

yeah this is correct.. but how did it get up there and stay up there for so
long?

Something is fishy... or I am not geek enough to like ubuntu... lol

 

[John Jay Smith]

Glad to see that someone here understands what Im talking about.

Bill Gates mocked the 130 dollar laptop for the kids of the 3rd world...
(and he is a humanitarian?)
Was it truly because he thought it is inferior.. or was he
extremely afraid of it! (linux installed!)

 

[deebs]

Can't one have one's own opinion outwith all the interpretations placed
upon it?

Any individual, like you or I, may have opinions.

The distinction between opinion and a company policy really are quite
diverse.

 

[deebs]

How's about this for a totally surreal (and I readily admit out of the
box idea) that the first thing that appears on screen is a username and
password.

Upon entering those details an OS is loaded related to that username and
password?

In other words should a particular name require accessibility features
then an accessibility OS is loaded. be it at an internet cafe, local
library, educational establishment or home computer.

Note: not just accessible features tweaked to an OS but a totally
dedicated OS that addresses the needs of that individual?

In other words: the OS is transparent and universal for that individual.

Totally surreal or do-able?

 

[deebs]

Picasa is brilliant, in my opinion, as it provides a great lightbox for
images.

It's limitation is in constraining effects within a lossy JPEG environment.

I'd rather Picasa for a file than search for one.

 

[Bernie]

yeah this is correct.. but how did it get up there and stay up there for so
long?

Something is fishy... or I am not geek enough to like ubuntu... lol

I thought Ubuntu was a great improvement over the Linux distros I looked
at 5 years ago. I didn't much like the look of it and didn't like the
touchy feely nonsense about the meaning of "Ubuntu". I didn't much like
the Gnome interface either but .... then I installed XGL/compiz and that
clean knocked my socks off. It made the whole thing come alive in some
interesting ways. Especially the multi desktop/workspaces feature. Now I
really like Aero Glass as a nice looking bit of eye candy but I like XGL
a lot more.

I can't wait for XGL on Freespire. Should be there in a few days I
expect. When it is I will start to show it to non geeky types.

 

[John Jay Smith]

well i can see that happening....logical not surreal at all....

a way that its bieng done now is using a thin client now to connect to
super duper powerful computers...
and there was an online thing.... hmmm

found it : KANOSIS COIL

http://www.kanosis-coil-kanosis.com/
its an online os!

 

[jonah]

I will call this Vinux or Versitle Linux.

this is how its gonna be done:

1) take the best of gnome and kde and make a unified GUI called Kgnome
2) make it easy for people to install propriety applications for media
playing- viewing
3) Make networking with windows automatic
4) Make all tasks extremely easy to accomplish
5) Make it beautiful and themeable (more than it is I mean).
6) A new kind of Linux developer must emerge. The online developer.. that
will
make the online counterpart (site) of this version as good as possible.
7) Make it a powerful p2p OS.
8) hide the horrible shell and scripts. All tasks must be done by GUI, and
the other
more ancient ways must be available only on request.
9) It must be modern and attractive...
10) Another group of Linux people must be formed that will PROMOTE it,
just like firefox had good promotion, nice banners and icons and catchy
promotion lines.
11) Create a new technology that can load the same partition as a Virtual
machine from within
windows or OSX, or of course load normally.

The expansion of such an OS will bring 2 things.
1) Drivers will be written for this OS
2) Applications will be ported to this OS.

That would be fabulous, I am fairly conversant with Linux, I use SuSE
and Ubuntu both of which are OK but can be bloody hard work. I will
have a look at freesight since it has been mentioned as a candidate. I
do not mind paying for an OS if it is good, but at present I have
found no real Linux alternative to Windows that does not involve a lot
of faffing about, paid for or not, and I have tried a lot. Its a bit
like going back to the early Windows versions where installing the
simplest app could turn into a major headache and I just don't have
time for it these days. Linux has improved a lot in the last couple of
years but it is not there yet. I use Linux for surfing / downloading
binaries etc but I use Windows if I need to get real work done.

Jonah

 

[Raven Mill]

Kanosis = Pyramid scheme...

well i can see that happening....logical not surreal at all....

a way that its bieng done now is using a thin client now to connect to
super duper powerful computers...
and there was an online thing.... hmmm

found it : KANOSIS COIL

http://www.kanosis-coil-kanosis.com/
its an online os!

 

[Raven Mill]

On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 03:51:53 +0300, "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote:

I will call this Vinux or Versitle Linux.

this is how its gonna be done:

1) take the best of gnome and kde and make a unified GUI called Kgnome
2) make it easy for people to install propriety applications for media
playing- viewing
3) Make networking with windows automatic
4) Make all tasks extremely easy to accomplish
5) Make it beautiful and themeable (more than it is I mean).
6) A new kind of Linux developer must emerge. The online developer.. that
will
make the online counterpart (site) of this version as good as possible.
7) Make it a powerful p2p OS.
8) hide the horrible shell and scripts. All tasks must be done by GUI, and
the other
more ancient ways must be available only on request.
9) It must be modern and attractive...
10) Another group of Linux people must be formed that will PROMOTE it,
just like firefox had good promotion, nice banners and icons and catchy
promotion lines.
11) Create a new technology that can load the same partition as a Virtual
machine from within
windows or OSX, or of course load normally.

The expansion of such an OS will bring 2 things.
1) Drivers will be written for this OS
2) Applications will be ported to this OS.

12) Make it Windows compatible, so that there are REAL applications that
run on it.

 

[Dennis Pack x64, v64B2 \(5384\), OPP2007B2]

Raven:
I agree fully, after I started reading the link I couldn't get
Pyramid scheme off my mind. Even though I used to be a half-wit before I
lost it.

 

[Bernie]

Kanosis = Pyramid scheme...

I didn't get far enough to find out what it really is. I was turned off
by the sales talk. "New, Latest, Future, Big Money" and the clincher,
"Internet experts agree..."

To be fair to the OP was talking about the software. Perhaps there is a
better link somewhere that explains what that is.

 

[John Jay Smith]

yeah.... it is true.... I am allergic to that kind of stuff too...

however online OSs are possible as internet speeds get faster...

 

[deebs]

I suppose a real caustic test is: does the public want it enough or do
they prefer the present "as is" model?