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Peter Köhlmann

Hadron said:
A "standard PC" is not a Linux machine unless Linux is installed on it.

So a PS3 is a linux machine when you install linux on it?
Are you having some sort of difficulty with such an easy to understand
issue?

It seems you do. You claim a PS3 is *not* a linux machine because it does
not come with linux installed.
Yet a PC with the exact same things (linux is not installed) is a linux
machine the moment you install linux on it. Double standards. How lame
or do you think that any HW that CAN run linux should be counted as a
Linux machine?

Do you think only machines coming pre-installed with linux should be counted
as linux machines?
They are potential linux platforms.

Right. Like the PS3
But *POTENTIAL* does not equal "is".

Nobody claimed so. You tried to imply that, but that is your usual
comprehension problem
Otherwise Linux machines would be 100% of the PC market share

If you had it your way with the PS3 definition, linux would have near 0%
market share
Come off it Thad.

Well, you are not really convincing
 
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the wharf rat

what exactly qualifies as a 'Linux machine?'

A system that ships commercially with linux or one that ships
without an OS but that the vendor supports linux on or one that ships
without an OS but is designed specifically for linux. (Some x86 vendors
build products specially configured for beowulf for instance)
 
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the wharf rat

Note: By the definition above a PS2, XBox and XBox360 are *ALL* linux
machines because linux is available for them.

Pffftttt. You can install linux on a Sparc 10 but it's
certainly not a linux machine.
 
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Moshe Goldfarb

Bold words from someone named Meat Plow.


With a name like that, it looks like he has found the right group!!
The question is though, what search argument got him here.

Haha!
 
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Hadron

Moshe Goldfarb said:
With a name like that, it looks like he has found the right group!!
The question is though, what search argument got him here.

Haha!

*chuckle*

Nice one.
 
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thad05

Hadron said:
A "standard PC" is not a Linux machine unless Linux is installed on it.

Are you having some sort of difficulty with such an easy to understand issue?

or do you think that any HW that CAN run linux should be counted as a
Linux machine?

As I see it, it depends if you are talking about Linux machine in
the singular (a specific instance of machine) or as a description
of a class of hardware (all x86 PCs for example). Granted, the
first is the more common use, but I can believe that some people
would use the later... language can be slippery like that.
They are potential linux platforms. But *POTENTIAL* does not equal
"is". Otherwise Linux machines would be 100% of the PC market share
......

Come off it Thad.

Actually, I tend to use the term the same way as you, but my GF
has a background in linguistics and loves to point out the pitfalls
of these sorts of word use issues. The point I was really getting
at was since Rex is arguing the 'class of hardware' interpretation
and you are using the term in the singular, the two of you are never
going to agree. That is why I find the argument kind of funny.

Thad
 
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Hadron

As I see it, it depends if you are talking about Linux machine in
the singular (a specific instance of machine) or as a description
of a class of hardware (all x86 PCs for example). Granted, the
first is the more common use, but I can believe that some people
would use the later... language can be slippery like that.

No. Only in COLA.

The PS3 is NOT a Linux machine. It is a Sony machine running a
proprietary OS.
Actually, I tend to use the term the same way as you, but my GF
has a background in linguistics and loves to point out the pitfalls
of these sorts of word use issues.

You don't need to say that. From the idiots using it to mean it "IS" a
Linux machine this is quite obvious. Albeit totally wrong.
 
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Moshe Goldfarb

Actually, I tend to use the term the same way as you, but my GF
has a background in linguistics and loves to point out the pitfalls
of these sorts of word use issues.
Thad

You should introduce your GF to 7 !
She could study him for some kind of a research project or something.
 

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