Kids project is toast, so, Back to the Future

[Jan Il]

Hi all -

Well, the very worst that could happen as a result of the update to 2002.
My Kids project is now just toast.
The many special things that I worked so long and hard on to create, are no
longer working in 2002. My graphics are only half showing. or all rasty
looking. Again, some of the special Fonts I used are no longer there, or
are just garbage. This is a bit of a hard swallow, I really was looking
forward to getting this done.

In addition to all the other problems, I found out Saturday that the person
who took the pictures of the kids and their projects managed to lose the
film, so, now we have no pictures. I would have to try to find some way to
represent all this somehow...and I have no idea. I wondered why they kept
avoiding my phone calls regarding when I could expect to get the pictures so
I could start working on getting them into the shapes and all. Since some
of the kids are no longer here, I can't just take more pictures. It was a
moment in time that can not be reproduced.

My older back up copy works fine in my 2000 at work, but, not on my computer
with 2002, but, all the work I did just before I upgraded useless in 2002. I
can't work on this projects at work, and now I can't at home. I *think*
I've had enough fun with 2002....for now anyway...so I think I'll just go
back to 2000 for a while. At least I could work, and keep it. It has become
a bit overwhelming trying to deal with so many problems on so many fronts at
once, but, I guess my Kids project was just the last straw. It is really my
fault, because I was very foolish and forgot to backup before the upgrade,
but, I didn't expect such adverse results. But..that is no viable
excuse....Geez!...I am not new to PC and upgrade problems, and I should have
known better, and did....I just didn't follow through and go there in time.

Oh well....'k...chin up....there's always the next time...and I'm going to
get me a good digital camera...and I'm gonna learn how to use the dang thing
....and the next time....*I* am going to take the pictures!

OK..sorry.....I've vented enough.. Thanks to you all for your support and
help. Now....I'm gonna go and have a talk with the stuffin's of my
pillow....which is Goose Down......no guarantees at this point....but, I may
be sleeping on bare tickin' tonight.... and hoping 'Jaws' can deal with the
feathers tomorrow.

Thanks all,
Jan

 

[Glen Millar]

Windie,

That's terrible. One disaster after another. Sometimes you think: "What's
the point of even trying".

Anyway, have a good sleep, and when your courage is up again, we can try to
sort something out.

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[Kathryn Jacobs]

Jan,
How old is the copy you sent me? Would it be close enough to help out?

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[Jan Il]

Hi Glen...thanks....love the look of your site. Very well done Mate...;-)))

g'nite...
Windie

 

[Robert Lerner]

Wow, that really bites! Personally, I think it's a good idea for you to bail
on upgrading at the moment. I say load up 2000, finish this project and
then, when you have time to deal with it, look to upgrade. In the middle of
projects I try to stay away from as many changes as possible.

As for the digital camera, I don't think there will be much to learn. Most
are point and click (or have such a setting). And since there's no film
cost, you click a lot. Out of 200 shots, you'll find some good ones. ;-)

 

[Mike M.]

I agree. Get a large memory stick (or whatever) and you can take hundreds
of pics. If you are using Windows XP for your O.S. then the transfer to PC
is automagic. My dad has Windows 98 with an older USB port and has problems
downloading from his camera. Other than that at 75 yoa he was able to go
digital. Pretty soon your biggest concern will be which of these hundreds
of pictures should I use.

Take care.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

As for the digital camera, I don't think there will be much to learn. Most

are point and click (or have such a setting). And since there's no film
cost, you click a lot. Out of 200 shots, you'll find some good ones. ;-)

But since kids are in the equation, you want to look at how fast the thing
can go from "I pressed the button" to "I took the picture"

By the time some of these cameras work out the focus and set the exposure,
have an espresso while they think things over and whatever else they stay so
busy doing, the kid graduates from college moves away and you have empty
photos where your great-grandchildren can be photoshopped in.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

But since I use the digital more than the film, I'm still getting used to

not spending $100 bucks per week on film/developing. It's weird ;-)

Amen! Heck, I think the CDs to store the images on are cheaper than slide
pages. <g>
And all the slide dupes are perfect copies, even after several generations.

'Course it's hard -- well, not so much hard as un-useful -- to hold a CD up
to the window for a quick look at the photos.

 

[Robert Lerner]

'Course it's hard -- well, not so much hard as un-useful -- to hold a CD up
to the window for a quick look at the photos.

I hear ya! I try to discipline myself to print a "contact sheet" and place
it in with the CD envelope.

But what is so cool is to bring the camera back to a TV, like in a hotel
while on vacation, and stick the v-cable into aux-jack and show the shots
you took on the lake moments before. It never ceases to amaze friends and
family. ;-)

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Kathy,

Jan,
How old is the copy you sent me? Would it be close enough to help out?

Thanks, I think it might help save some time, as some of the things in that
sample are some that are hopeless to salvage at this point. I've been trying
to save as much as I could, but....it isn't much ;-(

It is times like this I am thankful I'm such a compulsive pack rat, and save
all the newsgroup information I receive. I still have all the instructions
and information on that project on file, and all of Robert's samples.
So...there is still some day light shining at the end of the tunnel. Guess
I am really the biggest kid of them all....

I would truly appreciate it if you would not mind to send me a copy of the
sample slide I sent youuuuuuuuuu
(Oooopps! Thought I finally had all the dang feathers picked out of the
keyboard.....must have been a pen feather..sigh..)

Jan

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

But what is so cool is to bring the camera back to a TV, like in a hotel

while on vacation, and stick the v-cable into aux-jack and show the shots
you took on the lake moments before. It never ceases to amaze friends and
family. ;-)

Yowza. Or flip 'em up on the laptop.

 

[Jan Il]

Amen! Heck, I think the CDs to store the images on are cheaper than slide
pages. <g>
And all the slide dupes are perfect copies, even after several generations.

'Course it's hard -- well, not so much hard as un-useful -- to hold a CD up
to the window for a quick look at the photos.

Some things in life only happen once. If you miss it, it's gone forever. It
is also hard, or perhaps difficult, to hold one's brain up to the window and
scan through all the instant memories. ;-))

 

[Glen Millar]

Windie,

Like looking out of the window of the Youth Hostel in Loch Ness and seeing
Nessie and not having a camera? By the time I yelled "look at that", it was
gone.

Regards,

Glen

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

If an instamatic did the job for you, you could probably buy just about any
ol' digicam from a reputable manufacturer and be pretty happy with the
results.

Maybe have a look at www.dpreview.com to see what the questions are and how
they answer 'em.

Great site.

 

[Robert Lerner]

That was me, Glen, floating a wooden carving. Last time I got a gynecologist
to report a snapshot of it. I was hoping for you to do the same. Man, you
really let me down. You gotta keep that camera close by, okay?

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Robert,

Wow, that really bites! Personally, I think it's a good idea for you to bail
on upgrading at the moment. I say load up 2000, finish this project and
then, when you have time to deal with it, look to upgrade. In the middle of
projects I try to stay away from as many changes as possible.

Thanks for the suggestion and words of encouragement. As Scarlett O'Hara
said.."After all, ...tomorrow is another day."
I'm no a quitter, and I don't tuck tail and run at a little bump in the
road. Just need a bit to calculate the right speed to take the bump in the
road without tearing up the front end of my car.

As for the digital camera, I don't think there will be much to learn. Most
are point and click (or have such a setting). And since there's no film
cost, you click a lot. Out of 200 shots, you'll find some good ones. ;-)

This sounds like something even I can do. <g>

Jan

 

[Jan Il]

If an instamatic did the job for you, you could probably buy just about any
ol' digicam from a reputable manufacturer and be pretty happy with the
results.

Maybe have a look at www.dpreview.com to see what the questions are and how
they answer 'em.

Great site.

Yes it is, and thank you for the info. I am to a very small degree a sorta
simple person, and sometimes, the newest is good, but, not necessarily
better. The smile of happiness on even one childs face is something that
should never be missed. ;-)

 

[Jan Il]

Hey Glen!

Windie,

Like looking out of the window of the Youth Hostel in Loch Ness and seeing
Nessie and not having a camera? By the time I yelled "look at that", it was
gone.

Yes, exactly! Moments like that are things that are just not possible to
explain. Not just the fact of the event, but, the awesomeness of the
moment,
and how it made you feel....like you had been privileged to share a part of
God's nature in that instant that few have ever witnessed. I got my 'lil
Instamatic for Christmas when I was....well....ehh...many moons
younger...and I kept it with me all the time.

I don't have to have access to a computer to sit and go over a large part of
the history of my life, or my once family. Like Steve said, pictures don't
become corrupt or accessibility become outdated. Perhaps old, faded, like
our minds after a while, but, they are still there, you can still touch
them. The joy they bring us never goes out of style, or needs to be
updated, or upgraded in order to still make us happy. ;-))

Even if you had had a state of the art digital camera with you at the time,
by the time all things were 'just right' according to the preferences of
your digi....Nessie would have smiled and gifted you with a rare vision of
herself and gone on her merry way, and you would still have only that which
continues to live in your memory to say 'Yes! *I* saw her!!'

Windie

 

[Jan Il]

That was me, Glen, floating a wooden carving. Last time I got a gynecologist
to report a snapshot of it. I was hoping for you to do the same. Man, you
really let me down. You gotta keep that camera close by, okay?

Now Robert....you really *must* get more creative though if you want modern
folk to report sightings of Nessie. An oversized wooden decoy of Daffy Duck
with
baking soda and water ballast is not gonna convince many these days.
Especially when it goes *bottom* up after each surfacing. Looks like one of
those big bottom feeding ducks...webbed feet flailing...going round in
circles, then suddenly righting itself and just blindly continuing on
continuing course....hmm

;-)))

 

[Glen Millar]

Robert,

For some reason, we have Bigfoot too (I wonder if our Bigfoot wears an
Akubra?). But they are called Yowies here (dunno why).

A while ago, two young blokes out shooting ran into a town down south
yelling about the yowie. No-one ever saw it again, but they put a statue in
the local park where it happened. If the real Yowie is half as ugly as the
statue, you wouldn't want to meet it:

http://www.walkabout.com.au/fairfax/locations/QLDKilcoy.shtml

Regards,

Glen