keep XP updated until 2019

[Zo]

XP Guy formulated on Tuesday :

Hey Guy,
just curious - what is the difference between your recommended fix
and the one suggested in this article from betanews?
http://betanews.com/2014/05/26/how-...e-security-updates-for-windows-xp-until-2019/

or Tiny URL= http://tinyurl.com/kxqk2th

The difference is that the betanews article only gives this key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\WPA\PosReady]
"Installed"=dword:00000001

as the olny key to add to your XP system so that it will download
POSReady 2009 updates. Adding that key, and setting it's value to 1, is
necessary for this method to work.

The method I posted includes that key, as well as these additional keys:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WindowsEmbedded\ProductVersion]
"FeaturePackVersion"="SP3"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\WPA\WEPOS]
"Installed"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\WPA\WES]
"Installed"=dword:00000000

The addition of those 3 keys has been found to suppress "Key Not Found"
errors in the Windows Update log files during update sessions.

There is some discussion of the possibly that having the WEPOS or WES
keys set to 1 might also work by itself.

Really appreciate the reply, Thank you very much.

 

[Todd]

In message <[email protected]>, Todd <[email protected]>
writes:
[]

Hi Mayayana,

You do not believe how many of my customer go
for me turning Aero off when I tell them what it
does. At least Frankenstein (Windows 8) got rid of
it.

M$ makes my head spin at times.

-T

Other than use up some resources that might have a noticeable effect on
less powerful machines, what other evils do you tell your customer Aero
does - or is it just that one?

Hi J. P.,

Makes it hard to tell where the top of the windows is.
Aero is confusing.

When I show them the difference -- no fuzzy tops -- most
jump at wanting the "classic" method back.

I tell them about the strain on the video card too.
That mainly goes over their head.

To me Aero is just "eye candy" without a purpose and
it makes things worse. Just because you can do it
(video XOR), doesn't mean you should.

And, I am mindful that the "P" in PC" stands for
"Personal", so the customer gets it they way they
like it. (None so far like Aero.)

-T

 

[Ammammata]

Il giorno Wed 28 May 2014 06:37:33p, *Good Guy* inviava su
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Vediamo cosa scrisse:

Why do you want to keep using XP until 2019? What exactly do you use
your computer for?

I'm a linux user at home (mainly linux, I have also a Vista pc and a
Windows 8 Upgrade license not yet installed)

At work I'm using Seven

My post on XP extended support was not for my personal use.

 

[Ammammata]

Il giorno Wed 28 May 2014 06:37:33p, *Good Guy* inviava su
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Vediamo cosa scrisse:

By 2019, it is very likely you won't be able to use
XP for any meaningful work because all the new applications won't run on
your dilapidated/obsolete XP machine. Either you are an hobbyist in
which case it doesn't matter whether you get any patches or not or that
you are keeping a machine just for show. You can't be doing anything
meaningful on your computer.

I totally and fully agree but it's not my case

 

[Mayayana]

|> You can't be doing anything meaningful on your computer.

|
| I totally and fully agree but it's not my case
|

You totally agree that nothing meaningful can be done
on XP? I don't get why so many XP haters are hanging
around here posting about an OS they don't use.

Your attitude reminds me of the marketing for PCs, which
hasn't changed much since the 90s. Whenever a new PC
comes out, say Model Y, it's "blazingly fast". "You owe it
to yourself to buy this beautiful piece of hardware". The
last model, Model X, is suddenly demoted to "good enough
for web browsing and email". Six months later Model Z
comes out. It's blazingly fast (at Y + 200Mhz) and Model
Y is recast as "good enough for web browsing and email".
It's become absurd. Quad-core, 3 GHz machines with 8 GB
of RAM are now being sold for $300, advertised as "not too
bad if you just need to do email and web browsing".

It's the hobbyists who are listening to the marketing; who
think they're getting radically improved "horsepower" to shoot
aliens with lasers or to steal cars and run over cops.
People who use computers to do any sort of required work use
whatever works. I know an architect who kept running Win3.1
for years because he'd bought AutoCAD at student prices
during college and figured there was no good reason to buy
the new, wildly overpriced version, which he would have had to
have done if he'd switched to Win98. (Though I imagine he
probably also had a shiny new, blazingly fast Win98 PC that
was "good enough for web browsing and email".

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On 05/31/2014 07:16 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: []

Other than use up some resources that might have a noticeable effect on
less powerful machines, what other evils do you tell your customer Aero
does - or is it just that one?

Hi J. P.,

Makes it hard to tell where the top of the windows is.

I have no problems with it in that respect.

Aero is confusing.

For some.

When I show them the difference -- no fuzzy tops -- most
jump at wanting the "classic" method back.

I tell them about the strain on the video card too.
That mainly goes over their head.

To me Aero is just "eye candy" without a purpose and
it makes things worse. Just because you can do it
(video XOR), doesn't mean you should.

And, I am mindful that the "P" in PC" stands for
"Personal", so the customer gets it they way they
like it. (None so far like Aero.)

Well, I don't _dislike_ it - certainly not with the vehemence you seem
to. I've certainly left it be on my 7 machine. I wonder how many of your
customers are swayed - even unconsciously - by your opinion: if they ask
(if it can be turned off) without being prompted, fine. Otherwise, it's
probably impossible to ask the question in an objective manner.

-T

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

/Pride and Prejuice/ seems to be remade every ten years - the only real
difference being a new Mr Darcy in a new shirt with fewer buttons. - Marie
Hanerman, in Feedback, Radio Times, 13-19 November 2010.

 

[Ammammata]

Il giorno Thu 05 Jun 2014 04:29:31p, *Mayayana* inviava su
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|> You can't be doing anything meaningful on your computer.

|
| I totally and fully agree but it's not my case
|

You totally agree that nothing meaningful can be done
on XP? I don't get why so many XP haters are hanging
around here posting about an OS they don't use.

no, not just the few words you quoted, I mean the full phrase, don't trick
me cretinetti

my "attitude" come from everyday work, facing obsolete computers used by
aged users that complain on this and that , things are not working,
websites require IE but newest versions, new printers are not recognized,
and so on

if you use xp to play spider, watch your photo and write a letter to mama,
you can go on with it

 

[Ammammata]

Il giorno Wed 28 May 2014 08:47:32a, *Ammammata* inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio
Vediamo cosa
scrisse:

http://www.ghacks.net/2014/05/24/get-security-updates-windows-xp-april-
2019/

http://tinyurl.com/n3ahfq4

tested yesterday on an obsolete pc, it worked fine: got some POS related
updates in addition to the standard xp, mse stopped complaining

 

[BillW50]

|> You can't be doing anything meaningful on your computer.

|
| I totally and fully agree but it's not my case
|

You totally agree that nothing meaningful can be done
on XP? I don't get why so many XP haters are hanging
around here posting about an OS they don't use.

Your attitude reminds me of the marketing for PCs, which
hasn't changed much since the 90s. Whenever a new PC
comes out, say Model Y, it's "blazingly fast". "You owe it
to yourself to buy this beautiful piece of hardware". The
last model, Model X, is suddenly demoted to "good enough
for web browsing and email". Six months later Model Z
comes out. It's blazingly fast (at Y + 200Mhz) and Model
Y is recast as "good enough for web browsing and email".
It's become absurd. Quad-core, 3 GHz machines with 8 GB
of RAM are now being sold for $300, advertised as "not too
bad if you just need to do email and web browsing".

It's the hobbyists who are listening to the marketing; who
think they're getting radically improved "horsepower" to shoot
aliens with lasers or to steal cars and run over cops.
People who use computers to do any sort of required work use
whatever works. I know an architect who kept running Win3.1
for years because he'd bought AutoCAD at student prices
during college and figured there was no good reason to buy
the new, wildly overpriced version, which he would have had to
have done if he'd switched to Win98. (Though I imagine he
probably also had a shiny new, blazingly fast Win98 PC that
was "good enough for web browsing and email".

I don't know about 2019, but XP still does 100% of what I want to do
while Windows 7 and 8 runs more slowly, terrible at multimedia (not as
smooth as XP is), my games runs better under XP, etc. And I have three
TV tuners and Windows 7 and 8 are terrible at recording TV. But XP is
flawless and can convert the video format in real time. I could see
myself still using XP 20 years from now.