K-Meleon

[B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson]

Odd. It's been crashing here tonight, but that is almost certainly a
software conflict with WinGet. Are your specs worse than my 300mhz
98SE with 128 MB RAM?

The official 8.2 crashes here *sometimes* when I close (or change
from/to) tabs of a page which timed out loading some contents - with
memory access errors.

All "Wechselbalg" builds I tried up to now crash on very *different*
occasions, on the other hand. That's why I stay with the official
version at the moment. It is a very good browser, especially if one
goes through the config files to customize it a bit. ;-)

Btw.: I don't think the hardware config to matter in the observed
crashes. The OS *might*. (Because of different grades of memory
protection, and so on.) It's Win2k here.

BeAr

 

[mike ring]

(Does BTi still hide the porn from the all groups list?)

Dunno.... when did you look? ;-)

ISTR individual had only about half the number of BT when I joined.

Odd. It's been crashing here tonight, but that is almost certainly a
software conflict with WinGet. Are your specs worse than my 300mhz
98SE with 128 MB RAM?

Faster and more; but my old box is similar and runs everything except pix
and music happily; I'm looking forward to fully 98liteing it when I get a
round tuit

I had to do a scanreg/restore to lose my extra quick launch bar

I found it disgustingly stable, but geekier to tweak than I want.

Oh dear, in those cases I generally *don't* tweak.

But stable's good, and I'll check on resource use (FF is excellent)

mike

 

[jo]

We have the same specs jo, and like I said before the 0.9beta versions
rock.

Someone else with these specs? LOL.
Thx for the feedback. I spent a while with the latest beta last night
on the XP partition and liked it a lot. I really ought to put it on
here but have been putting so much work into getting this machine up
and running, and I thought I knew which browser was going on it. Now I
find that I have to work to decide which build of browser to install.

Like you, I had problems with winget,

Yep. Useless. Doesn't work with K-M. I find I like LeechGet, despite
the large file size and bells and whistles.

For a no-install, and other questions, you better post in the forums, very
helpful regulars there.

Not enough time atm for a full on browser obsession. This thread has
been enormously useful to me and will keep me going for a while.

 

[jo]

Dunno.... when did you look? ;-)

A few years ago. You had to know which group you wanted and then
manually add it to your newsreader. BTi protecting the innocent.

ISTR individual had only about half the number of BT when I joined.

Yeah but they don't do binaries anyway

Faster and more; but my old box is similar and runs everything except pix
and music happily; I'm looking forward to fully 98liteing it when I get a
round tuit

I took IE off here, and have put the bloody thing back twice for one
reason or another. IE is staying on for the moment until the system is
how I want it. After my experience with the Advent Calendar, I won't
be allowing it online unsupervised tho...
I'm looking for a 95 disk which I *know* is about here somewhere in
order to replace Explorer; I'll be interested to see how this affects
things.

 

[Rod]

Now I find that I have to work to decide which build of browser to
install.

For such a beloved box I would stick with the no-install 0.82+ and wait
for the 0.9 final.

Yep. Useless. Doesn't work with K-M.

Well, it worked (don't remember which build I tried it on), but it kept
repeating the same download for two, sometimes three times, very
strange) It might be that build, because a lot of people in the forums
are loving Winget in combination with K-Meleon. One last thing: I assume
you read this before, but to be on the safe side: you did rename
WinNP.dll to NPWinGet.dll and copied into your K-Meleon>plugins folder ?
That's required to integrate Winget into K-Meleon.

Anyway, good luck choosing.

 

[jo]

For such a beloved box I would stick with the no-install 0.82+ and wait
for the 0.9 final.

It's only a second hand laptop FFS
I always start with the best of intentions and then end up in software
conflict hell. ATM I am still in 'best intentions' mode.

Well, it worked (don't remember which build I tried it on), but it kept
repeating the same download for two, sometimes three times, very
strange) It might be that build, because a lot of people in the forums
are loving Winget in combination with K-Meleon.

Odd. Here it felt like WinGet was closing port 80 and going into a
sulk whilst frying the CPU. I'm too idle to research this sort of
stuff so simply move on...

One last thing: I assume
you read this before, but to be on the safe side: you did rename
WinNP.dll to NPWinGet.dll and copied into your K-Meleon>plugins folder ?
That's required to integrate Winget into K-Meleon.

Did that, yes.

 

[Howard Schwartz]

I am having the darn-dest time with the 9 beta: I installed all the
recommended ms updates for c++, but still on my old win 95, 64 meg
machine -- the menus do not display or open.

I tried to join the development list, but my post was repeatedly
rejected by the moderator because I was not a `member', even though
I am a valid subscriber.

Perhaps this will all get ironed out in further integration and
development.

I'm using K-Meleon v0.9 Beta 4, bit different
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?f=2&i=3628&t=3628
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/files/beta/km09b4moz174.exe
maybe this might work
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?f=3&i=6033&t=6014

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[mike ring]

Yeah but they don't do binaries anyway

I've not felt the need for a binary.

I took IE off here, and have put the bloody thing back twice for one
reason or another. IE is staying on for the moment until the system is
how I want it. After my experience with the Advent Calendar, I won't
be allowing it online unsupervised tho...
I'm looking for a 95 disk which I *know* is about here somewhere in
order to replace Explorer; I'll be interested to see how this affects
things.

If you can't find it I got mine from a charity which fettles computers -
they put an OS on them so punters can run them and it's often 95 -
they've got plenty of discs.

(Of course I gave my 95 disc to my postie, who's now gone, along with my
old puter)

I don't want to tell the world my source, but if you like I'll mail you,
they might help, even for a small fee, might even see it as a business
opportunity, but it's not for me to say,

mike

 

[jo]

I don't want to tell the world my source, but if you like I'll mail you,
they might help, even for a small fee, might even see it as a business
opportunity, but it's not for me to say,

Thx for the offer. IIRC it is only one cab file I need. When I start
looking I will find it.

 

[diesel_fuel]

I am having the darn-dest time with the 9 beta: I installed all the
recommended ms updates for c++, but still on my old win 95, 64 meg
machine -- the menus do not display or open.

I tried to join the development list, but my post was repeatedly
rejected by the moderator because I was not a `member', even though
I am a valid subscriber.

K-Meleon 0.8.2 works fine on it, but 0.9b3 is unusable without
modification (menu bar is corrupt and inaccessible unless you replace
two plugins with 0.8.2 versions).
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?f=3&i=6098&t=6098

 

[JP Loken]

It's only a second hand laptop FFS
I always start with the best of intentions and then end up in software
conflict hell. ATM I am still in 'best intentions' mode.

<snip>
Our home computer is an old, second hand laptop, too.
We prefer using the official 0.8.2 with the KM-Nautipolis
theme(TheEyesOnly-collection) to get more functionality in an easy way. I
prefer TheEyesOnly-collection because of its very helpful ReadMe's.
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?id=KMeleonThemesWiki

I tried the Wechselbalg, and liked it, but my wife ordered me to reinstall
version 0.8.2 and never install any other browser again.

 

[jo]

The official 8.2 crashes here *sometimes* when I close (or change
from/to) tabs of a page which timed out loading some contents - with
memory access errors.

I've not had this with the official build. I've had it this last few
days with the Welchselbalg build and with a 0.9 beta. I don't know
what is happening. The program doesn't crash as such. It closes access
to the web, which requires a reboot to re-enable. Very odd behaviour.
I'm onto the latest beta now, and if it behaves the same then it is
back to the official build.
Shame. I assume my system is missing some requirement or other

All "Wechselbalg" builds I tried up to now crash on very *different*
occasions, on the other hand. That's why I stay with the official
version at the moment. It is a very good browser, especially if one
goes through the config files to customize it a bit. ;-)

I have a feeling this is the path I will end up taking.

Btw.: I don't think the hardware config to matter in the observed
crashes. The OS *might*. (Because of different grades of memory
protection, and so on.) It's Win2k here.

There must be loads of people running later builds on 98SE. I am
confused. Hardly a first...

 

[mike ring]

I'm onto the latest beta now, and if it behaves the same then it is
back to the official build.

I've got the official build now, and I like it a lot, much more than FF,
which IMO has a "brutal" looking interface common to much open source
stuff, including Thunderbird.

It's also easy on resources, like FF, and looks a lot like IE, (which I
like)
It is a very good browser, especially if one
Wish I could make head or tail of them, my needs are simple, I just want to
tell it where to put downloads.

IT's definitely a keeper, and I hope to confgure it a bit one day

mike

 

[Dennis Roark]

Why?

I like the look of K-Meleon CCF 0.018PR5 which is an 0.9, yes?

But it feels slightly bloatier than the "Wechselbalg" build which is
important on this low resource system.

I had a look at latest testbuild, 0.9 beta4, available here:

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?f=1&i=20260&t=20260

also, but it is an install version and I don't want to go there atm. I
tried installing it on a seperate partition and copy/pasting the dir
somewhere else and it wouldn't work...

I visited that site to look at the info on the latest ver 0.9 beta 4.
They describe it as based on Mozilla 1.7.4. I am using a trunk version
of Firefox, June 6, 2004, that is based on Mozilla 1.8a2. That was a
very strong version as is the latest mozilla trunk, 1.8a6. It looks
like Mozilla trunk and Firefox trunks are running considerably ahead of
K-Meleon in optimization and bug fixes. Regressions can occur so you
need to be careful which trunk version you try, but I have found the
trunks very good. I use the BlueFyre alternate builds, but probably
most prefer the Moox 3rd party builds of the Mozilla Suite and Firefox.

--
Dennis Roark

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