Justification Question

[G.G. Biggar, Jr.]

I have a document in which I am using full justification in order to align
the right-hand side of each paragraph. Often, the last line of the
paragraph is spread out (so to speak), if the line is not a full one.

As I recall, there is a simple fix for this, but I have not been able to
find it using the Help menu. Any thoughts are most welcome!

Gordon Biggar
Houston, Texas

 

[TF]

If you finish the paragraph with a return (Enter key), it will not spread:
if you finish it with a line Feed (Shift+Enter), then it will spread. Is
there a reason you need to finish the para with a line feed?

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:I have a document in which I am using full justification in order to align
: the right-hand side of each paragraph. Often, the last line of the
: paragraph is spread out (so to speak), if the line is not a full one.
:
: As I recall, there is a simple fix for this, but I have not been able to
: find it using the Help menu. Any thoughts are most welcome!
:
: Gordon Biggar
: Houston, Texas
:
:

 

[Steve Hayes]

If you finish the paragraph with a return (Enter key), it will not spread:
if you finish it with a line Feed (Shift+Enter), then it will spread. Is
there a reason you need to finish the para with a line feed?

A relatred question:

Word 97 seems to use whole-space justification as the default. Is there any
way to set it to do microspace justification?

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I'm not sure what you mean. Word expands the spaces between words (equally)
to fill the line. It does not expand the space between letters, if that's
what you're talking about.

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A relatred question:

Word 97 seems to use whole-space justification as the default. Is there any
way to set it to do microspace justification?

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[HT]

Delete the section break after the last line.

I'm not sure what you mean. Word expands the spaces between words (equally)
to fill the line. It does not expand the space between letters, if that's
what you're talking about.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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[G.G. Biggar, Jr.]

There are a few instances in this work where the spreading occurs at the end
of the first line of the paragraph. Your suggestion to use the Enter key
does the trick, however, by closing up these spaces. Of course, this means
that one must review one's typing to locate such "bad actors," since one
does not normally use the enter key in moving from one line to the next.

My apologies for a delayed response to the Board for its assistance, which
is always highly valued by me.

Gordon Biggar

 

[Steve Hayes]

Delete the section break after the last line.

Why?

What's that supposed to do?

What if there isn't one?

 

[Steve Hayes]

I'm not sure what you mean. Word expands the spaces between words (equally)
to fill the line. It does not expand the space between letters, if that's
what you're talking about.

I'm talking about the ugly gaps between words if one has justified columns and
the columns are fairly narrow -- say 3 or 4 on a page.

 

[Graham Mayor]

This is always an issue with justified text and narrow columns - the only
alternatives are not to use justified text, to use the tools > options >
compatibility option to justify like Word Prefect which you /may/ prefer, or
to choose a smaller font size so that it lays out better.

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[Doug Robbins]

Your original post referred to the last line of the paragraph, not the first
line. You DO use the Enter key to end a paragraph. You would NOT however
use it (of Shift+Enter either) to move from the first line of a paragraph to
the second. If you have used Shift+Enter to do that, that would explain the
behaviour of the first line. The manual line break inserted by using
Shift+Enter should be replaced with a space. Note however, if there is not
room for the first word of the second line to fit at the end of the first
line, the space between the words on the first line will be expanded to take
up the necessary space.

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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Furthermore, as Graham says, narrow columns and long words are uncomfortable
bedfellows. Judicious hyphenation (manual or auto) will help some.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
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[G.G. Biggar, Jr.]

In analyzing the length of the series of words used where the spacing occurs
at the end of a line, it simply must be that full justification finds it
necessary to "spread" the words. My perplexed reaction was caused by the
number of occurrences in a single document, which occurrence I have not
encountered before. Suzanne Barnhill's "fix" by considering hyphenation is
one that I had not even considered.

Again, I extend my appreciation for the knowledge displayed on this Board.

Gordon Biggar
Houston, Texas

 

[G.G. Biggar, Jr.]

Hello Suzanne --

Just thought that you might like some feedback on all of the assistance that
you provided me on frames and pictures so many months ago. My book was just
published -- 75 pages and 95 photos. Without your good efforts I'd still be
trying to figure out how to move all of those pictures around without others
jumping from page to page.

Just might move to Quark on the next round, although I'm not keen on
learning a totally new "language!"

Gordon Biggar
Houston, Texas

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I'm pretty sure Quark has a steep learning curve, but any page layout or DTP
app is probably more suitable than Word for dealing with books with lots of
pictures. Often they don't handle documentation (footnotes, endnotes, index,
TOC) as well as Word, but I'd guess Quark can handle pretty much anything.
All competing products have their enthusiastic adherents, so I'm sure this
thread will generate some response.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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[Steve Hayes]

This is always an issue with justified text and narrow columns - the only
alternatives are not to use justified text, to use the tools > options >
compatibility option to justify like Word Prefect which you /may/ prefer, or
to choose a smaller font size so that it lays out better.

The world processors I use most often are MS Word and XyWrite.

I wish someone would offer a word processor with the best features of both.

If I want to produce a newsletter with several columns, MS Word does columns
and pictures better. But XyWrite offers microjustification and better text
handling, which makes justified text look better.

 

[Graham Mayor]

Sounds like you need a DTP application.
Personally I find justified columns harder to read than left aligned
columns.

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[Jim]

All competing products have their enthusiastic adherents, so I'm sure this
thread will generate some response.

Oh, if you insist, Suzanne: PagePlus has my enthusiastic adherency.
Blessed be, for sure...