Java

[Mickie]

I am having a horrible time with Java applets. I keep
getting java.net.Securtiy errors. I have Microsoft
Virtual Java Machine 5.0.3810 and I have the latest Sun
Java. Java applets will not load with either one checked
in Internet options or with both checked. I am very
frustrated as some of the websites that I cannot view
worked just fine before I installed a windows update a
few days ago. I am at a loss. I have even tried the
java test web pages and they say that everything is
installed fine. If anyone can give some advice it would
be greatly appreciated.

 

[Ron]

Check your security levels.
Click "Tools" | "Internet Options" | "Security" tab.
Click the "Internet" icon, then the "Custom Level" button.
Scroll down to the "Java" section and be sure that it is
enabled. Be sure the "Scripting of Java applets" is
enabled, too. You may also want to check your "over-all"
security level, as that will impede Java's performance.

Ron

 

[Ron]

PS...
Open "Tools" -> "Internet Options". Click "Settings"
button, then "View Objects" button. Right-click on each
item in the list and select "Update" until all have been
updated.
Remove any that are corrupted or invalid.

Ron

 

[Jim Byrd]

Hi Mickie - Reinstall your Java VM(s).

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3805 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87D5474AC9DCD.exe
Then update to v. 3810 of the MS Java VM from here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe

If you're Win2000, SP4, then you appear to have two choices at this
point. Either use Sun Java, or AT YOUR OWN RISK (and I'm not even sure
that this will work) if you saved the necessary files when you
installed, you can try uninstalling SP4 to roll back to SP3 or SP2, then
installing 3805 and 3810 as above, then re-installing SP4.



For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3805 from here:
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/msjavx86.exe
Then update to v. 3810 of the MS Java VM from here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 (Note that
this download is also supposed to be for Win2000, but DON"T use it for
that OS - use the link above.)


You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the following
sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm

and check whether you have the MS VM installed and which version here:
http://www.visualware.com/support/javasupport.html

Be aware, however, that after Jan 2, 2004, MS will apparently no longer
be distributing Java or providing any support for Java including
security fixes. (It's unclear as to how 6/26/03 court decision will
affect this) See here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/news/jre.asp so you
might want to start thinking about the future.

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using
the dropdown)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java
plug-in here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html

Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select
which one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart
all IE browsers. Here, courtesy of Michel Gallant, MVP Security, is a
tiny utility which allows you to toggle and view status of your current
Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://pages.istar.ca/~neutron/SelectIEJVM

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
Please respond in original thread in Newsgroup.




In [email protected], Mickie typed:

 

[Mickie]

-----Original Message-----

PS...
Open "Tools" -> "Internet Options". Click "Settings"
button, then "View Objects" button. Right-click on each
item in the list and select "Update" until all have been
updated.
Remove any that are corrupted or invalid.

Ron


.
Ok, I did everything suggested by Ron and by Jim. I

went to all the java check websites listed and all of
them said it was running and installed fine. I did find
that my java build was not detected if I had both sun and
jvm (JIT compilier)selected in the advanced tab under
internet settings/advanced. However, if I just selected
the jit compiler, then the build was detected as
5.0.3810. Also, in the settings area/view objects:
checking for corrupt files installed, my sun java runtime
environment 1.4.1_3 said that the file was installed but
that it had no size. Actually there were two of these
entries. I uninstalled java and then went to java.com
and reinstalled. Still have two entries that have "None"
listed under total size. Sooooo.....I went to one of the
websites that I have been having trouble with (current
settings of JIT compiler selected but not sun java) and
my new message is: Exception:
com.ms.security.SecurityExceptionEx[ak.a]: cannot connect
to "(name of website)" The only odd thing that I have
noticed is that there is a banner ad on this specific
website that refuses to load. It says page cannot be
displayed in the box that the ad should be in. I do not
have a pop-up or ad blocker on my computer. I am running
Windows XP and IE 6. Any suggestions?? Thank you in
advance.

 

[Jim Byrd]

Hi Mickie - First, on the Sun Java. Go back to the Settings enties.
If the Sun java entries are zero or say "Damaged", then right click and
click Remove (don't just delete!), then go to the Sun link,
http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html, and re-download/install
them. (Be sure to turn off any AV, particularly everything by
Norton/Symantec before you do the install) Then, try things again.

If you're still having problems, then two things to check -

First, take a look at your settings in your Firewall (if you have one -
and if not, you should). Check particularly for popup/ad blocking
settings (in ZAPro, for example). If they're set, try turning them off.

Next, look in C:\Windows (if Win98/ME) or
C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc (if XP/Win2k which is you) for a file
named HOSTS (no extension - NOT HOSTS.sam) If this file exists, rename
it to NOHOSTS and see if you still have your problem. Please post back
in this same thread with your results, and we can go from there.

(BTW, you only need to check or uncheck the Sun box in Advanced tab to
select between the Sun and the MS Java VM's, or you can use Michel
Gallant, MVP's utility which allows you to toggle and view status of
your current Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://pages.istar.ca/~neutron/SelectIEJVM You get Sun's if it's
checked or MS's if it's not. The Java Build check is only checking for
MS's VM, so what you saw is normal.)

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
Please respond in original thread in Newsgroup.




In [email protected], Mickie typed:

-----Original Message-----

PS...
Open "Tools" -> "Internet Options". Click "Settings"
button, then "View Objects" button. Right-click on each
item in the list and select "Update" until all have been
updated.
Remove any that are corrupted or invalid.

Ron


.
Ok, I did everything suggested by Ron and by Jim. I

went to all the java check websites listed and all of
them said it was running and installed fine. I did find
that my java build was not detected if I had both sun and
jvm (JIT compilier)selected in the advanced tab under
internet settings/advanced. However, if I just selected
the jit compiler, then the build was detected as
5.0.3810. Also, in the settings area/view objects:
checking for corrupt files installed, my sun java runtime
environment 1.4.1_3 said that the file was installed but
that it had no size. Actually there were two of these
entries. I uninstalled java and then went to java.com
and reinstalled. Still have two entries that have "None"
listed under total size. Sooooo.....I went to one of the
websites that I have been having trouble with (current
settings of JIT compiler selected but not sun java) and
my new message is: Exception:
com.ms.security.SecurityExceptionEx[ak.a]: cannot connect
to "(name of website)" The only odd thing that I have
noticed is that there is a banner ad on this specific
website that refuses to load. It says page cannot be
displayed in the box that the ad should be in. I do not
have a pop-up or ad blocker on my computer. I am running
Windows XP and IE 6. Any suggestions?? Thank you in
advance.

 

[Mickie]

-----Original Message-----
Hi Mickie - First, on the Sun Java. Go back to the Settings enties.
If the Sun java entries are zero or say "Damaged", then right click and
click Remove (don't just delete!), then go to the Sun link,
http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html, and re- download/install
them. (Be sure to turn off any AV, particularly everything by
Norton/Symantec before you do the install) Then, try things again.

If you're still having problems, then two things to check -

First, take a look at your settings in your Firewall (if you have one -
and if not, you should). Check particularly for popup/ad blocking
settings (in ZAPro, for example). If they're set, try turning them off.

Next, look in C:\Windows (if Win98/ME) or
C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc (if XP/Win2k which is you) for a file
named HOSTS (no extension - NOT HOSTS.sam) If this file exists, rename
it to NOHOSTS and see if you still have your problem. Please post back
in this same thread with your results, and we can go from there.

(BTW, you only need to check or uncheck the Sun box in Advanced tab to
select between the Sun and the MS Java VM's, or you can use Michel
Gallant, MVP's utility which allows you to toggle and view status of
your current Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://pages.istar.ca/~neutron/SelectIEJVM You get Sun's if it's
checked or MS's if it's not. The Java Build check is only checking for
MS's VM, so what you saw is normal.)

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
Please respond in original thread in Newsgroup.




In [email protected], Mickie typed:

-----Original Message-----

PS...
Open "Tools" -> "Internet Options". Click "Settings"
button, then "View Objects" button. Right-click on each
item in the list and select "Update" until all have been
updated.
Remove any that are corrupted or invalid.

Ron


-----Original Message-----
Check your security levels.
Click "Tools" | "Internet Options" | "Security" tab.
Click the "Internet" icon, then the "Custom Level" button.
Scroll down to the "Java" section and be sure that it is
enabled. Be sure the "Scripting of Java applets" is
enabled, too. You may also want to check your "over- all"
security level, as that will impede Java's performance.

Ron


-----Original Message-----
I am having a horrible time with Java applets. I keep
getting java.net.Securtiy errors. I have Microsoft
Virtual Java Machine 5.0.3810 and I have the latest Sun
Java. Java applets will not load with either one checked
in Internet options or with both checked. I am very
frustrated as some of the websites that I cannot view
worked just fine before I installed a windows update a
few days ago. I am at a loss. I have even tried the
java test web pages and they say that everything is
installed fine. If anyone can give some advice it would
be greatly appreciated.
.

.

.
Ok, I did everything suggested by Ron and by Jim. I

went to all the java check websites listed and all of
them said it was running and installed fine. I did find
that my java build was not detected if I had both sun and
jvm (JIT compilier)selected in the advanced tab under
internet settings/advanced. However, if I just selected
the jit compiler, then the build was detected as
5.0.3810. Also, in the settings area/view objects:
checking for corrupt files installed, my sun java runtime
environment 1.4.1_3 said that the file was installed but
that it had no size. Actually there were two of these
entries. I uninstalled java and then went to java.com
and reinstalled. Still have two entries that have "None"
listed under total size. Sooooo.....I went to one of the
websites that I have been having trouble with (current
settings of JIT compiler selected but not sun java) and
my new message is: Exception:
com.ms.security.SecurityExceptionEx[ak.a]: cannot connect
to "(name of website)" The only odd thing that I have
noticed is that there is a banner ad on this specific
website that refuses to load. It says page cannot be
displayed in the box that the ad should be in. I do not
have a pop-up or ad blocker on my computer. I am running
Windows XP and IE 6. Any suggestions?? Thank you in
advance.

.
Ok I did all the stuff that you said to do. I renamed

the Hosts file. My other Host file (sam file?) is named
lmhost. There are also some other files in that folder.
I removed the Java from the internet options/settings/
view objects. I also went to add remove programs because
it told me that it could not get all of the program
removed with just the remove function. I then
redownloaded java from sun. I have (again) two entries
in my internet settings....view objects ...that are
java. Each says no size. Each says installed. Each has
a different ID number if you right click and do
properties. {8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93} and
{CAFEEFAC-0014-0001-0003-ABCDEFFEDCBA}
Also the name of each says its an ActiveX Control and
the description says (under the Version Tab)that it is a
plug in for Netscape??? Does that matter? The java check
websites say that it is installed and that it is running
correctly. Anyway, I am not running sun java at the
moment. Ok, if I do run Sun Java, my error
becomes: "Exception:
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.net.SocketPermission "Name of Website" resolve)
instead of the usual "com.ms.security.SecurityExceptionEx
[ak.a]....
As far as a firewall, I am using the one that comes with
XP. I am on a cable modem. As far as my provider goes,
the only thing about the system that I know is that they
can check to see if my modem is operational in real time.
So I don't know if I have a proxy server...etc. The
troubleshooting thing they sent me says the settings
should be....TCP/IP Properties:Obtain IP address
automatically....Obtain DNS server address automatically,
Advance TCP/IP properties: DHCP enabled. DNS tab:
entries should be left blank. WINS tab: entries should
be left blank. Don't know if this could be relevent or
not.
I appreciate your prompt responses. I have been pulling
my hair out over this for several days. Thank you again.

 

[Jim Byrd]

Hi Mickie - Check the Sun box on the Advanced tab (or use the utility I
mentioned), then try these sites and tell us what happens:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript
here:http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm

Then uncheck the Sun box and check whether you have the MS VM installed
and which version here:
http://www.visualware.com/support/javasupport.html, and then re-test the
same sites as above using the MS VM.


--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
Please respond in original thread in Newsgroup.

.
Ok I did all the stuff that you said to do. I renamed

the Hosts file. My other Host file (sam file?) is named
lmhost. There are also some other files in that folder.
I removed the Java from the internet options/settings/
view objects. I also went to add remove programs because
it told me that it could not get all of the program
removed with just the remove function. I then
redownloaded java from sun. I have (again) two entries
in my internet settings....view objects ...that are
java. Each says no size. Each says installed. Each has
a different ID number if you right click and do
properties. {8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93} and
{CAFEEFAC-0014-0001-0003-ABCDEFFEDCBA}
Also the name of each says its an ActiveX Control and
the description says (under the Version Tab)that it is a
plug in for Netscape??? Does that matter? The java check
websites say that it is installed and that it is running
correctly. Anyway, I am not running sun java at the
moment. Ok, if I do run Sun Java, my error
becomes: "Exception:
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.net.SocketPermission "Name of Website" resolve)
instead of the usual "com.ms.security.SecurityExceptionEx
[ak.a]....
As far as a firewall, I am using the one that comes with
XP. I am on a cable modem. As far as my provider goes,
the only thing about the system that I know is that they
can check to see if my modem is operational in real time.
So I don't know if I have a proxy server...etc. The
troubleshooting thing they sent me says the settings
should be....TCP/IP Properties:Obtain IP address
automatically....Obtain DNS server address automatically,
Advance TCP/IP properties: DHCP enabled. DNS tab:
entries should be left blank. WINS tab: entries should
be left blank. Don't know if this could be relevent or
not.
I appreciate your prompt responses. I have been pulling
my hair out over this for several days. Thank you again.

 

[Mickie]

Ok, I did the testing again, checking the sun box first
and then restarting exporer, visiting each website. The
results were:
1. Was in German, was a card trick that ran fine.
2. Was a squiggly message in a box that
said "Cooperating Libraries Automated Network"
3. Two grey boxes
1. Is Running JDK 1.0
Can Run Java 1.4.1_03 applets
Java Support supplied by Sun Microsystems
Operating system is Windows XP V. 5.1
2. Is Running JDK 1.1 from a jar file
Can Run Java 1.4.1_03 applets
Java Support supplied by Sun Microsystems
Operating system is Windows XP v. 5.1
4. A Grey box with the words: Java is working! JVM
1.4.1_03 from Sun Microsystems. These words were
flashing on and off at an accelerated rate.
5. A table that said Browser IE v. 6, JVM true
6. User agent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE v 6.0, NT
5.1) Browser: IE 6, Platform: Windows XP, Javascript
Version: 1.5, and all the rest Passed.

I then unchecked the Sun box, checked the JIT compiler,
restarted IE. Went to the visualware website. Result:
Micro Java VM Build 5.0.3810 detected.

Revisited the web sites in same order as above.
1. Card trick, fine.
2. Squiggly message, fine.
3. Two grey boxes:
1. Running JDK 1.0 applet
Can run Java version 1.1.4 applet
Provided by Microsoft
Operating system is Windows NT v. 5.1
2. Running JDK 1.1 from jar file
Can run Java version 1.1.4 applets
Provided by Microsoft
Operating system is Windows NT v. 5.1
4. Grey box "Java is working! JVM 1.1.4 from Microsoft
***This one was NOT Flashing.
5. Browser Internet Explorer v. 6 JVM True
6. User agent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE v 6.0, NT
5.1) Browser: IE 6, Platform: Windows XP, Javascript
Version: 1.5, and all the rest Passed.

Only things I noticed were that the messages from the
coglab website were flashing/not flashing with
sun/microsoft. And that the fitwise website said that I
had Windows XP (with sun) and Windows NT (with
microsoft). Is that abnormal??
Thank you for your help!!!

-----Original Message-----
Hi Mickie - Check the Sun box on the Advanced tab (or use the utility I
mentioned), then try these sites and tell us what happens:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript
here:http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm

Then uncheck the Sun box and check whether you have the MS VM installed
and which version here:
http://www.visualware.com/support/javasupport.html, and then re-test the
same sites as above using the MS VM.


--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
Please respond in original thread in Newsgroup.

.
Ok I did all the stuff that you said to do. I renamed

the Hosts file. My other Host file (sam file?) is named
lmhost. There are also some other files in that folder.
I removed the Java from the internet options/settings/
view objects. I also went to add remove programs because
it told me that it could not get all of the program
removed with just the remove function. I then
redownloaded java from sun. I have (again) two entries
in my internet settings....view objects ...that are
java. Each says no size. Each says installed. Each has
a different ID number if you right click and do
properties. {8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93} and
{CAFEEFAC-0014-0001-0003-ABCDEFFEDCBA}
Also the name of each says its an ActiveX Control and
the description says (under the Version Tab)that it is a
plug in for Netscape??? Does that matter? The java check
websites say that it is installed and that it is running
correctly. Anyway, I am not running sun java at the
moment. Ok, if I do run Sun Java, my error
becomes: "Exception:
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.net.SocketPermission "Name of Website" resolve)
instead of the usual "com.ms.security.SecurityExceptionEx
[ak.a]....
As far as a firewall, I am using the one that comes with
XP. I am on a cable modem. As far as my provider goes,
the only thing about the system that I know is that they
can check to see if my modem is operational in real time.
So I don't know if I have a proxy server...etc. The
troubleshooting thing they sent me says the settings
should be....TCP/IP Properties:Obtain IP address
automatically....Obtain DNS server address automatically,
Advance TCP/IP properties: DHCP enabled. DNS tab:
entries should be left blank. WINS tab: entries should
be left blank. Don't know if this could be relevent or
not.
I appreciate your prompt responses. I have been pulling
my hair out over this for several days. Thank you

again.

.

 

[Jim Byrd]

OK Mickie - Sounds like everything is OK - those are the results you
ought to be seeing (the flashing/non-flashing is probably an artifact of
the way the two different VM's render Java - there are differences).
Are your problem sites OK now? I think you said that you renamed the
HOSTS file. If so, rename it back to HOSTS (MUST be all caps, no
extension) and rerun you tests and retry your problem sites. If
everything is still OK, then leave it that way. Otherwise, post back
please.

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
Please respond in original thread in Newsgroup.




In [email protected], Mickie typed:

Ok, I did the testing again, checking the sun box first
and then restarting exporer, visiting each website. The
results were:
1. Was in German, was a card trick that ran fine.
2. Was a squiggly message in a box that
said "Cooperating Libraries Automated Network"
3. Two grey boxes
1. Is Running JDK 1.0
Can Run Java 1.4.1_03 applets
Java Support supplied by Sun Microsystems
Operating system is Windows XP V. 5.1
2. Is Running JDK 1.1 from a jar file
Can Run Java 1.4.1_03 applets
Java Support supplied by Sun Microsystems
Operating system is Windows XP v. 5.1
4. A Grey box with the words: Java is working! JVM
1.4.1_03 from Sun Microsystems. These words were
flashing on and off at an accelerated rate.
5. A table that said Browser IE v. 6, JVM true
6. User agent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE v 6.0, NT
5.1) Browser: IE 6, Platform: Windows XP, Javascript
Version: 1.5, and all the rest Passed.

I then unchecked the Sun box, checked the JIT compiler,
restarted IE. Went to the visualware website. Result:
Micro Java VM Build 5.0.3810 detected.

Revisited the web sites in same order as above.
1. Card trick, fine.
2. Squiggly message, fine.
3. Two grey boxes:
1. Running JDK 1.0 applet
Can run Java version 1.1.4 applet
Provided by Microsoft
Operating system is Windows NT v. 5.1
2. Running JDK 1.1 from jar file
Can run Java version 1.1.4 applets
Provided by Microsoft
Operating system is Windows NT v. 5.1
4. Grey box "Java is working! JVM 1.1.4 from Microsoft
***This one was NOT Flashing.
5. Browser Internet Explorer v. 6 JVM True
6. User agent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE v 6.0, NT
5.1) Browser: IE 6, Platform: Windows XP, Javascript
Version: 1.5, and all the rest Passed.

Only things I noticed were that the messages from the
coglab website were flashing/not flashing with
sun/microsoft. And that the fitwise website said that I
had Windows XP (with sun) and Windows NT (with
microsoft). Is that abnormal??
Thank you for your help!!!

-----Original Message-----
Hi Mickie - Check the Sun box on the Advanced tab (or use the utility I
mentioned), then try these sites and tell us what happens:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript
here:http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm

Then uncheck the Sun box and check whether you have the MS VM installed
and which version here:
http://www.visualware.com/support/javasupport.html, and then re-test the
same sites as above using the MS VM.


--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
Please respond in original thread in Newsgroup.

.
Ok I did all the stuff that you said to do. I renamed
the Hosts file. My other Host file (sam file?) is named
lmhost. There are also some other files in that folder.
I removed the Java from the internet options/settings/
view objects. I also went to add remove programs because
it told me that it could not get all of the program
removed with just the remove function. I then
redownloaded java from sun. I have (again) two entries
in my internet settings....view objects ...that are
java. Each says no size. Each says installed. Each has
a different ID number if you right click and do
properties. {8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93} and
{CAFEEFAC-0014-0001-0003-ABCDEFFEDCBA}
Also the name of each says its an ActiveX Control and
the description says (under the Version Tab)that it is a
plug in for Netscape??? Does that matter? The java check
websites say that it is installed and that it is running
correctly. Anyway, I am not running sun java at the
moment. Ok, if I do run Sun Java, my error
becomes: "Exception:
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.net.SocketPermission "Name of Website" resolve)
instead of the usual "com.ms.security.SecurityExceptionEx
[ak.a]....
As far as a firewall, I am using the one that comes with
XP. I am on a cable modem. As far as my provider goes,
the only thing about the system that I know is that they
can check to see if my modem is operational in real time.
So I don't know if I have a proxy server...etc. The
troubleshooting thing they sent me says the settings
should be....TCP/IP Properties:Obtain IP address
automatically....Obtain DNS server address automatically,
Advance TCP/IP properties: DHCP enabled. DNS tab:
entries should be left blank. WINS tab: entries should
be left blank. Don't know if this could be relevent or
not.
I appreciate your prompt responses. I have been pulling
my hair out over this for several days. Thank you again.

.

 

[Mickie]

Well I got kind of a new error....the Exception now
reads: java.security.AccessControlException: access
Denied (java.new.SocketSocketPermission 208.39.19.87:8000
connect, resolve). No idea what it means, but maybe it
is good that it is a new error message?!?!
Thank you for your help!!

-----Original Message-----
OK Mickie - Sounds like everything is OK - those are the results you
ought to be seeing (the flashing/non-flashing is probably an artifact of
the way the two different VM's render Java - there are differences).
Are your problem sites OK now? I think you said that you renamed the
HOSTS file. If so, rename it back to HOSTS (MUST be all caps, no
extension) and rerun you tests and retry your problem sites. If
everything is still OK, then leave it that way. Otherwise, post back
please.

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
Please respond in original thread in Newsgroup.




In [email protected], Mickie typed:

Ok, I did the testing again, checking the sun box first
and then restarting exporer, visiting each website. The
results were:
1. Was in German, was a card trick that ran fine.
2. Was a squiggly message in a box that
said "Cooperating Libraries Automated Network"
3. Two grey boxes
1. Is Running JDK 1.0
Can Run Java 1.4.1_03 applets
Java Support supplied by Sun Microsystems
Operating system is Windows XP V. 5.1
2. Is Running JDK 1.1 from a jar file
Can Run Java 1.4.1_03 applets
Java Support supplied by Sun Microsystems
Operating system is Windows XP v. 5.1
4. A Grey box with the words: Java is working! JVM
1.4.1_03 from Sun Microsystems. These words were
flashing on and off at an accelerated rate.
5. A table that said Browser IE v. 6, JVM true
6. User agent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE v 6.0, NT
5.1) Browser: IE 6, Platform: Windows XP, Javascript
Version: 1.5, and all the rest Passed.

I then unchecked the Sun box, checked the JIT compiler,
restarted IE. Went to the visualware website. Result:
Micro Java VM Build 5.0.3810 detected.

Revisited the web sites in same order as above.
1. Card trick, fine.
2. Squiggly message, fine.
3. Two grey boxes:
1. Running JDK 1.0 applet
Can run Java version 1.1.4 applet
Provided by Microsoft
Operating system is Windows NT v. 5.1
2. Running JDK 1.1 from jar file
Can run Java version 1.1.4 applets
Provided by Microsoft
Operating system is Windows NT v. 5.1
4. Grey box "Java is working! JVM 1.1.4 from Microsoft
***This one was NOT Flashing.
5. Browser Internet Explorer v. 6 JVM True
6. User agent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE v 6.0, NT
5.1) Browser: IE 6, Platform: Windows XP, Javascript
Version: 1.5, and all the rest Passed.

Only things I noticed were that the messages from the
coglab website were flashing/not flashing with
sun/microsoft. And that the fitwise website said that I
had Windows XP (with sun) and Windows NT (with
microsoft). Is that abnormal??
Thank you for your help!!!

use the utility
I the MS VM
installed and then re-test
the

same sites as above using the MS VM.


--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
Please respond in original thread in Newsgroup.





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Ok I did all the stuff that you said to do. I renamed
the Hosts file. My other Host file (sam file?) is named
lmhost. There are also some other files in that folder.
I removed the Java from the internet options/settings/
view objects. I also went to add remove programs because
it told me that it could not get all of the program
removed with just the remove function. I then
redownloaded java from sun. I have (again) two entries
in my internet settings....view objects ...that are
java. Each says no size. Each says installed. Each has
a different ID number if you right click and do
properties. {8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93} and
{CAFEEFAC-0014-0001-0003-ABCDEFFEDCBA}
Also the name of each says its an ActiveX Control and
the description says (under the Version Tab)that it is a
plug in for Netscape??? Does that matter? The java check
websites say that it is installed and that it is running
correctly. Anyway, I am not running sun java at the
moment. Ok, if I do run Sun Java, my error
becomes: "Exception:
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.net.SocketPermission "Name of Website" resolve)
instead of the

usual "com.ms.security.SecurityExceptionEx

[ak.a]....
As far as a firewall, I am using the one that comes with
XP. I am on a cable modem. As far as my provider goes,
the only thing about the system that I know is that they
can check to see if my modem is operational in real time.
So I don't know if I have a proxy server...etc. The
troubleshooting thing they sent me says the settings
should be....TCP/IP Properties:Obtain IP address
automatically....Obtain DNS server address automatically,
Advance TCP/IP properties: DHCP enabled. DNS tab:
entries should be left blank. WINS tab: entries should
be left blank. Don't know if this could be relevent or
not.
I appreciate your prompt responses. I have been pulling
my hair out over this for several days. Thank you again.

.

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