I've discovered a flaw in Windows XP!

[Guest]

I was changing some sounds for system events when I noticed something. There
are sounds for Exit Windows, Start Windows, Windows Logoff and Windows Logon.
I have a different, unique sound associated with each of these events. When I
shut down Windows, the Exit Windows sound plays. When I boot Windows, the
Start Windows sound plays. However, when I log off Windows, the Exit Windows
sound plays, not the Windows Logoff sound. And, when I log in to Windows, the
Start Windows sound plays, not the Windows Logon sound. I've tried this on
several different machines with the same result. Can someone out there try
this? Is there some registry tweak to fix this behavior?

Thanks,
Dennis

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

I was changing some sounds for system events when I noticed something. There
are sounds for Exit Windows, Start Windows, Windows Logoff and Windows Logon.
I have a different, unique sound associated with each of these events. When I
shut down Windows, the Exit Windows sound plays. When I boot Windows, the
Start Windows sound plays. However, when I log off Windows, the Exit Windows
sound plays, not the Windows Logoff sound. And, when I log in to Windows, the
Start Windows sound plays, not the Windows Logon sound. I've tried this on
several different machines with the same result. Can someone out there try
this? Is there some registry tweak to fix this behavior?

Thanks,
Dennis

You can set this yourself with the greatest of ease - no need
for registry hacks! The whole list of events is visible in Control
Panel / Sounds. Select your event, then select the sound you
wish to hear for this event.

 

[Kelly]

Bugs in Windows? )

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[S.Sengupta]

Assign a Sound to a System Event
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/accessibility/assignasound.mspx

regards,
S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]

 

[Curt Christianson]

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[Guest]

I've been using windows since 3.0 and I know how to assign sounds to system
events using control panel sound applet. All I'm saying is, you can assign
any sound you want to Windows Logoff and Windows Logon. What will play when
you logoff (or logon) will be the Exit Windows and Start Windows sound
respectively. Try it!

Dennis

 

[Doug]

Where a 'startup' coincides with an 'automatic' LOGIN then you
will get the start-up sound.

Same with the log-off as the Exit Windows IS the log-off as you
are Turning off the compute by shutting down and not shifting to
or making provision for another user to log-in and take the
place of the original user.

I could be totally wrong...but that is my analysis of the
situation.

Doug W.
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[Guest]

Ok, let's say Windows is up and running; you have your desktop and all your
applications there. Then you click on Start -> Logoff. The sound that plays
is the Exit Windows sound - not the Windows Logoff sound. Then, when you log
back in (Windows is still running at this point, remember), the Start Windows
sound plays, rather than the Windows Logon sound. I've even gone so far as to
completely remove the sounds from Windows Logoff and Windows Logon, and the
Exit and Start sounds STILL play when you log off and log on. Ergo, it makes
no difference if you have anything assigned to Windows Logon and Windows
Logoff - it won't play. What WILL play is the Exit Windows and Start Windows
sounds (if any).
I've verified this with Windows XP Home and Windows XP Pro on several
different systems (portable/desktop) and it is consistent. Just try it! If
you can get the Logon and Logoff sounds to play when you are logging off and
logging on, I'll ... I'll buy you a doughnut or something. Just try it,
please!

d

 

[Doug]

Hi Dennis...Will do my own tests and get back to you. You
obviously have discovered some inconsistencies and some
programming must have been changed by Microsoft without
realizing what the changes would do. Damn, I might miss out on
the donut.

Doug W.

 

[Charlie Tame]

Dennis, what happens if you choose "Switch User" instead, you don't need to
set up another user to try this.

I got the correct sounds.

I am guessing that if there's only one user logged on then log off = exit
windows whereas if you are switching there's no exit for the user logging
off.

Charlie

 

[Doug]

Charlie: Was thinking along the same lines but was unable to
communicate this as well as you have done. I would experiment
more but don't want to screw things up on my computer as am
satisfied with things as they now exist.

Doug W.

 

[Steve N.]

Ok, let's say Windows is up and running; you have your desktop and all your
applications there. Then you click on Start -> Logoff. The sound that plays
is the Exit Windows sound - not the Windows Logoff sound. Then, when you log
back in (Windows is still running at this point, remember), the Start Windows
sound plays, rather than the Windows Logon sound. I've even gone so far as to
completely remove the sounds from Windows Logoff and Windows Logon, and the
Exit and Start sounds STILL play when you log off and log on. Ergo, it makes
no difference if you have anything assigned to Windows Logon and Windows
Logoff - it won't play. What WILL play is the Exit Windows and Start Windows
sounds (if any).
I've verified this with Windows XP Home and Windows XP Pro on several
different systems (portable/desktop) and it is consistent. Just try it! If
you can get the Logon and Logoff sounds to play when you are logging off and
logging on, I'll ... I'll buy you a doughnut or something. Just try it,
please!

d

The logon/logoff sounds might only apply to logon/logoff to a domain.
I'm not sure about this, since I don't use a domain. At work we use
Netware and eDirectory but I imagine that the sounds might apply there,
too. I will try and remember to test it tomorrow at work.

Steve N.

 

[Charlie Tame]

Well I tested that on a clean install and it worked as stated.... switch
user gave the correct sounds despite the fact there is at this time only the
one user (Renamed built in Admin account) but choosing log off does as
Dennis discovered. I assume the thinking was if you log off the sole user
you are effectively closing all instances of the windows user interface,
though not of course any services. The settings Dennis was using appear to
be the defaults so it does not need anything changed to try this switch user
experiment.

Charlie

 

[Steve N.]

The logon/logoff sounds might only apply to logon/logoff to a domain.
I'm not sure about this, since I don't use a domain. At work we use
Netware and eDirectory but I imagine that the sounds might apply there,
too. I will try and remember to test it tomorrow at work.

Steve N.

Tested at work, no sound when loggin off or on to DS either, so scrap my
idea.

Steve N.

 

[Guest]

Wow! This is fun, isn't it? I also discovered that when you 'switch user'
the logon/logoff sounds actually play. My other computer has a domain login
so I never get the logon/logoff sounds because there is no 'switch user'.
This might be a case of semantics, but IMHO if you log off, the logoff sound
should play, period. Windows is still running. When you logon the logon sound
should play, not just when switching users (which is actually logging on and
off). When you shutdown windows, the exit windows should play and when you
start windows (or boot the computer) the start sound should play. I just
can't see where logging off or on constitute shutting down/starting up
windows...

Regards,
Dennis

 

[Doug]

The logic is not ours to understand. Whatever the programmers at
Microsoft determine is de way she goes.

Glad U are getting some of the strangeness sorted out.

Doug W.
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[Charlie Tame]

Wow! This is fun, isn't it? I also discovered that when you 'switch user'
the logon/logoff sounds actually play. My other computer has a domain
login
so I never get the logon/logoff sounds because there is no 'switch user'.
This might be a case of semantics, but IMHO if you log off, the logoff
sound
should play, period. Windows is still running. When you logon the logon
sound
should play, not just when switching users (which is actually logging on
and
off). When you shutdown windows, the exit windows should play and when you
start windows (or boot the computer) the start sound should play. I just
can't see where logging off or on constitute shutting down/starting up
windows...

Regards,
Dennis

I'd agree completely, but I guess it is a throwback to the old days when 98
was essentially a one user system with smoke and mirrors to pretend
otherwise

Mr. Gates please return to the correct use of the English language. When you
"Start" your car it makes starting noises, when you Stop your car it is
useless to any other car and to the driver (which eliminates network
connectivity and other third party problems). When you switch drivers you
may still be in the car, but can still be "Using it" and when you exit the
car but leave it running any other user can use it.

The term log on means adding more fuel to the fire and log off is generally
a precursor to calling the fire department because what you just added fell
off and the carpet is now burning.

I also suggest the following modifications to the rather staid sound samples
provided. For example on the first day of the week the machine might say "Oh
hell, is it Monday already" and on Friday (Any time after noon it seems at
our place) it might say "Why are you always the last one to leave?"

 

[Doug]

I'd agree completely, but I guess it is a throwback to the old
days when 98 was essentially a one user system with smoke and
mirrors to pretend otherwise

Mr. Gates please return to the correct use of the English
language. When you "Start" your car it makes starting noises,
when you Stop your car it is useless to any other car and to
the driver (which eliminates network connectivity and other
third party problems). When you switch drivers you may still
be in the car, but can still be "Using it" and when you exit
the car but leave it running any other user can use it.

The term log on means adding more fuel to the fire and log off
is generally a precursor to calling the fire department
because what you just added fell off and the carpet is now
burning.

I also suggest the following modifications to the rather staid
sound samples provided. For example on the first day of the
week the machine might say "Oh hell, is it Monday already" and
on Friday (Any time after noon it seems at our place) it might
say "Why are you always the last one to leave?"

Some of the sounds associated with certain tasks or events could
certainly be more exciting. I create some of my own sounds and
use them for my own amusement. One example is the 'mail notify'
sound. My 'mail notify' now says 'you have email and its all
crap'. Very appropriate for most of the stuff delivered to our
'in box'. If one uses one's imagination, more appropriate sounds
can be assigned for other situations.

Doug W.