Is this true about ASUS?

[XS11E]

What type apps are you talking about?

Quicken, VersaCheck and TurboTax or TaxCut.

There are NO Linux equivalents, there aren't even any Windows
equivalents. For example, Microsoft Money, Gnucash and Moneydance all
say they will import Quicken files, they all lie. Not my files nor
anyone else's files that are complex, I'm not the only one who's tried.

Quicken will "sorta" run under Crossover Office but "sorta" does't cut
it.

VersaCheck will run under Wine but it won't print. The ONLY function
of VersaCheck is to print so.... ????

There's other ways of printing checks, I can download MICR fonts and
probably create some way to do it, but until Quicken runs under Linux
I'll be running Windows. I don't play games, download music, surf the
web, etc. My PC is for financial use only and Quicken is why it
exists, w/o the three programs above I wouldn't even need a computer!
Dang, wouldn't that be nice? ;-)

 

[Pseudo Namen]

LOL. They don't work as flawsless as they do in Windows XP though,
especially with DirectX settings turned all the way up.

Remember, the programs you talk about are emulators, and thus cannot
compete with Windows Native as far as speed, and high color and textures
etc... I buy games for the graphics, speed and sound. I don't know of one
game that works with EAX4 in Linux.
Just because you can get something to work, doesn't mean it works as well.
)

 

[Net Resident]

LOL. They don't work as flawsless as they do in Windows XP though,
especially with DirectX settings turned all the way up.

Remember, the programs you talk about are emulators, and thus cannot
compete with Windows Native as far as speed, and high color and
textures etc... I buy games for the graphics, speed and sound. I
don't know of one game that works with EAX4 in Linux.
Just because you can get something to work, doesn't mean it works as
well.

#1 Learn how to post on Usenet by not top posting.
#2 WINE and WINEX are not emulators, they are compatability layers. There is
a world of difference between the two systems.
#3 Some games actually play better on a GNU/Linux platform, example
Morrowind.
#4 Being happy that you are nearly forced to game on a propietary system is
retarded. Do you like giving extra money to those that want to insure that
you are further locked in to using their products only? Talk about a vicious
circle...
#5 Companies licensing source out for porting is a win/win/win.

 

[Pseudo Namen]

#1 Learn how to post on Usenet by not top posting.
#2 WINE and WINEX are not emulators, they are compatability layers. There
is
a world of difference between the two systems.
#3 Some games actually play better on a GNU/Linux platform, example
Morrowind.
#4 Being happy that you are nearly forced to game on a propietary system
is
retarded. Do you like giving extra money to those that want to insure that
you are further locked in to using their products only? Talk about a
vicious
circle...
#5 Companies licensing source out for porting is a win/win/win.

Read my other posts. Most of them are NOT top posted.
No matter what you call them, they are NOT native Windows
NO games that are native Windows games work better in LINUX, that is pure
bullshit.
You are the one being retarded.
And finally, I am not a company. I am an individual.

Now learn some manners.

 

[Ed Light]

#1 Learn how to post on Usenet by not top posting.

That's a debated issue. Personally I prefer top posts when they don't have
to answer a specific sentence of paragraph.


--
Ed Light

Smiley :-/
MS Smiley :-\

Send spam to the FTC at
(e-mail address removed)
Thanks, robots.

 

[Wes Newell]

The biggest problem I have with using Linux only is GAMES.
1. The Sims
2. Sim City 4
3. Sacrifice
4. Diblo 2
5. Dungeon Siege
6. Command & Conquer: Generals
7. Command & Conquer: Red Alert
8. Hitman 2
9. Tomb Raider:The Angel Of Darness
10. Evolva
11. Age Of Empires
12. Flight Simulater 2004
13. Raven Shield
14. Warcraft 3

Just to name a few. LOL

well, if you use your machine to play commercial games, then by all
means you should stay with Windows. Personally, I've never seen any of
these games, and probably never will. There's probably about 50 games
that comes with the linux distro I use. I've been using Linux for over 3
years now and still have only run a few of these.

 

[Wes Newell]

Quicken, VersaCheck and TurboTax or TaxCut.

There are NO Linux equivalents, there aren't even any Windows
equivalents. For example, Microsoft Money, Gnucash and Moneydance all
say they will import Quicken files, they all lie. Not my files nor
anyone else's files that are complex, I'm not the only one who's tried.

Well, for Quicken there are 5 Linux programs listed as equivalents. I
don't use any of these personal finance managers, but I've heard of people
importing quicken files into gnucash. But you seem to be saying it's not
evuivalent simple because they use a different storage format.

Quicken will "sorta" run under Crossover Office but "sorta" does't cut
it.

So use a native program like gnucash.

VersaCheck will run under Wine but it won't print. The ONLY function of
VersaCheck is to print so.... ????

I don't use this stuff either, but found a linux app called Freecheck in
a matter of seconds.

There's other ways of printing checks, I can download MICR fonts and
probably create some way to do it, but until Quicken runs under Linux
I'll be running Windows. I don't play games, download music, surf the
web, etc. My PC is for financial use only and Quicken is why it exists,
w/o the three programs above I wouldn't even need a computer! Dang,
wouldn't that be nice? ;-)

Well then you should definately stay with Windows then if it does what you
want and you are happy with it. But to say Linux sucks just because you
can't move windows quicken files over to it is just a little on the absurd
side don't you think.

 

[Hellmark]

Pseudo Namen's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his
body were:

LOL. They don't work as flawsless as they do in Windows XP though,
especially with DirectX settings turned all the way up.

Some do, but you're right, most still have a few quirks.

Remember, the programs you talk about are emulators, and thus cannot
compete with Windows Native as far as speed, and high color and textures
etc... I buy games for the graphics, speed and sound. I don't know of one
game that works with EAX4 in Linux.
Just because you can get something to work, doesn't mean it works as well.

No, they are not. Emulates is software that takes place of a hardware
component. Wine and its offshoots add an API layer for the execution of
non native software. Even if you look at what the acronym means, you'd
know "Wine Is Not an Emulator" (thats straight from the wine webpage).
I've had stuff run under Wine just as fast as it does under Windows. Learn
before commenting.

 

[Hellmark]

Pseudo Namen's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his
body were:

Read my other posts. Most of them are NOT top posted.

So? Because you normally do it one way, doesnt mean that you didnt **** up
that time.

No matter what you call them, they are NOT native Windows
So?

NO games that are native Windows games work better in LINUX, that is pure
bullshit.

Go believe your FUD. I'm a game developer for a small company, and I know
that if you dont sloppily code your app, it will run about the same. I
have seen a few rare instances where non native beat out native, but thats
because shortcuts were used.

 

[Hellmark]

Ed Light's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his body
were:

That's a debated issue. Personally I prefer top posts when they don't have
to answer a specific sentence of paragraph.

I inline/bottom post. That way, if someone doesnt get the previous posts
(which happens on usenet), they can still have an idea of whats going on,
plus I can coment on each individual part I want to. I dont have to lump
all my things together

 

[radical_edward]

#1 Learn how to post on Usenet by not top posting.

BZZZZT. WRONG ANSWER.

People can post where ever they want.

Bottom post Nazis need to wake up and smell the roses.

The year is 2004 not 1994.

And don't even think of starting in on that Nazi bullshit.

That's why I put it in here

 

[Post Replies Here Please]

What is wrong with top posting? If the article is very long top
posting is better when the posting comes up in google search engine.
You have to hit another button to read the post for very long posts.
So with very long articles if you have a short reponse top posting is
actually better in my opinion. Whatever. I guess we should all vote
for the same person also.

Later,

Alan


Net> #1 Learn how to post on Usenet by not top posting. #2 WINE and
Net> WINEX are not emulators, they are compatability layers. There is
Net> a world of difference between the two systems. #3 Some games
Net> actually play better on a GNU/Linux platform, example Morrowind.
Net> #4 Being happy that you are nearly forced to game on a
Net> propietary system is retarded. Do you like giving extra money to
Net> those that want to insure that you are further locked in to
Net> using their products only? Talk about a vicious circle... #5
Net> Companies licensing source out for porting is a win/win/win.

 

[XS11E]

Well, for Quicken there are 5 Linux programs listed as
equivalents.

But they're not. They won't do all the things that I use Quicken to do
and they won't import Quicken files although they all claim to do so.

I don't use any of these personal finance managers,
but I've heard of people importing quicken files into gnucash. But
you seem to be saying it's not evuivalent simple because they use
a different storage format.

Nope, I'm saying it's not equivalent because it doesn't have the
features and it will NOT import complex files. It might very well work
if you use Quicken to track your checkbook but if you have many
accounts with multiple banks and brokerage houses, it just doesn't
work. The import is done but the files imported are totally
incomprehensible. BTDT.

So use a native program like gnucash.

Which I've already tried to do and proved it won't do the job.

I don't use this stuff either, but found a linux app called
Freecheck in a matter of seconds.

Thanks, I'll take a look at that.

Well then you should definately stay with Windows then if it does
what you want and you are happy with it. But to say Linux sucks
just because you can't move windows quicken files over to it is
just a little on the absurd side don't you think.

Nope. I expect software to do what I need done, if it does, I use it.
If not, it's not usable for me.

Not usable for me = Sucks

Clear enough?

I'm still playing with Linux and am working at importing Quicken files
into Moneydance or some other program. My hope is that if I import one
single account at a time, that may work properly but we're talking
about many hours of work to do that and the time isn't available so
far.

 

[General Schvantzkoph]

I believe Supermicro doesn't make any AMD based motherboards.

That's right they are strictly an Intel house. It's understandable that
they didn't make Athlon boards. There are no industrial quality chipsets
for Athlons, all of their Xeon boards use Intel or Broadcom chipsets. They
don't use VIA or SIS which is what's available for AMD. They were thinking
about offering Opteron boards (see link below) but it hasn't happened yet.
With Intel's release of their iAMD processors it's possible that
SuperMicro has dropped their plans for Opteron boards.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030409184718.html

 

[Hellmark]

Post Replies Here Please's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged
through his body were:

What is wrong with top posting? If the article is very long top
posting is better when the posting comes up in google search engine.
You have to hit another button to read the post for very long posts.
So with very long articles if you have a short reponse top posting is
actually better in my opinion. Whatever. I guess we should all vote
for the same person also.

the entire idea is that you're not supposed to let the quoted text become
unrulely. If you have a short response, quote only the valid part, as I
just did.

 

[Net Resident]

BZZZZT. WRONG ANSWER.

People can post where ever they want.

Bottom post Nazis need to wake up and smell the roses.

The year is 2004 not 1994.

And don't even think of starting in on that Nazi bullshit.

That's why I put it in here

Don't be surprised when you suddenly realize one day that no one is
responding to your posts because they all killfile'd you for being a
stubbornly wrong Usenet newbie. Speaking of newbies, learn what the Godwin
doctrine is.

 

[Hellmark]

Net Resident's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his
body were:

Don't be surprised when you suddenly realize one day that no one is
responding to your posts because they all killfile'd you for being a
stubbornly wrong Usenet newbie. Speaking of newbies, learn what the Godwin
doctrine is.

Yup, those who invoke Godwin's law are only lashing out in desparation.

 

[General Schvantzkoph]

Quicken, VersaCheck and TurboTax or TaxCut.

There are NO Linux equivalents, there aren't even any Windows
equivalents. For example, Microsoft Money, Gnucash and Moneydance all
say they will import Quicken files, they all lie. Not my files nor
anyone else's files that are complex, I'm not the only one who's tried.

Quicken will "sorta" run under Crossover Office but "sorta" does't cut
it.

VersaCheck will run under Wine but it won't print. The ONLY function
of VersaCheck is to print so.... ????

There's other ways of printing checks, I can download MICR fonts and
probably create some way to do it, but until Quicken runs under Linux
I'll be running Windows. I don't play games, download music, surf the
web, etc. My PC is for financial use only and Quicken is why it
exists, w/o the three programs above I wouldn't even need a computer!
Dang, wouldn't that be nice? ;-)

I use Win4Lin to run Quicken, Quickbooks and TaxCut (I used TurboTax in
the past and that worked fine on Win4Lin also). I do all of my serious
work using Linux applications but for desktop applications where there is
no Linux app of comparable quality I use Windows apps under Win4Lin.

 

[XS11E]

I use Win4Lin to run Quicken, Quickbooks and TaxCut (I used
TurboTax in the past and that worked fine on Win4Lin also). I do
all of my serious work using Linux applications but for desktop
applications where there is no Linux app of comparable quality I
use Windows apps under Win4Lin.

I've heard of it and investigated it a little bit and I think it will
work..... but if I need to install Windows to run these apps, why
shouldn't I just run Windows?

I don't quite understand Win4Lin? What I do understand is that it's
$89.95 and I already have Windows so I don't see where I'd gain by
using it?

One more problem, it supports Windows 9x which I haven't run for many
many years, I'm not sure I have any of the CDs now, I'd have to check.
I do have WindowsNT 4.0, Windows2000 and WindowsXP but I can't find any
evidence it will work with them?

 

[General Schvantzkoph]

I've heard of it and investigated it a little bit and I think it will
work..... but if I need to install Windows to run these apps, why
shouldn't I just run Windows?

I don't quite understand Win4Lin? What I do understand is that it's
$89.95 and I already have Windows so I don't see where I'd gain by
using it?

One more problem, it supports Windows 9x which I haven't run for many
many years, I'm not sure I have any of the CDs now, I'd have to check.
I do have WindowsNT 4.0, Windows2000 and WindowsXP but I can't find any
evidence it will work with them?

It will only work with Win9x although a version that supports 2K and XP is
supposedly coming.

Win4Lin saves you from dual booting and it allows you to run Windows
applications simultaneously with Linux apps. You can even cut and paste
between Windows and Linux applications. Also it's easy to replicate and
backup your Windows environment, all you have to do is rsync your win
directory to another machine.

If all you want to do is run desktop applications then you are probably
better off sticking with a native WinXP environment. I use Linux because
it's an at least an order of magnitude more productive for me then
Windows. I can run on multiple machines simultaneously both on my local
LAN and, through secure shell, across the internet, you can't do that with
Windows. My workstation is an old 500MHz PIII, my compute servers are a
dual 2.66 Xeon and dual 1G PIII, and I use an old 450MHz PII as my CVS
server. If I were running XP I wouldn't be able to divide the load that
way and I wouldn't be able to use a 500MHz machine as my main workstation.
Also I'd be forced to use a GUI for most things which is horribly
ineffecient compared to csh scripts. The stability and lack of viruses is
just cream on top of the cake. I also like Galeon much better than any
browser that's available for Windows (although now that Firefox is out the
gap has been narrowed) and Evolution is at least as good as any e-mail
program that's available for Windows. Gnumeric meets my spreadsheet needs
every bit as well as Excel. However Open Office sucks compared to Word and
FrameMaker, the Linux PDF writer isn't in the same league with Acrobat,
and the Linux financial applications can't compete with Quicken and
Quickbooks. So for things I use Win4Lin.

For power users Linux has huge advantages because of it's network
computing capability, it's expandability and it's configurability but it's
not a complete solution because of it's weakness in Word processing and
Financial Application space. Win4Lin fills that gap. However if you don't
need Linux's power then it would be silly to use Linux + Win4Lin, you
should just stick with XP.