Is there something very simple wrong here?

R

RB Smissaert

Trying to connect 2 Windows XP Pro machines.
One of them (machine 1) has a cable modem connected via a network card.
There is simple connection with a cross-over cable between the 2 machines.
Machine 2 has an internet connection via machine 1.
I ran the normal network wizard, but it doesn't work.
Machine 1 can't machine 2 and vice versa.
I can ping machine 2 from machine 1, but not the other way round.
The internet connection works fine though on both machines.
I have stopped and uninstalled ZoneAlarm, but it made no difference.
Also stopped the Win XP firewall, but made no difference either.

Now I am a complete novice to networks and I have no idea what the fault is
here.

When I run ipconfig I get the following:

Machine 1
------------
ipconfig
Click to expand...

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Network Bridge (Network Bridge) 10:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 82.37.26.154
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 82.37.24.1


Machine 2
------------

ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.224
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1



Is there something with these settings?
Any advice greatly appreciated.


RBS
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

"RB Smissaert" said:
Trying to connect 2 Windows XP Pro machines.
One of them (machine 1) has a cable modem connected via a network card.
There is simple connection with a cross-over cable between the 2 machines.
Machine 2 has an internet connection via machine 1.
I ran the normal network wizard, but it doesn't work.
Machine 1 can't machine 2 and vice versa.
I can ping machine 2 from machine 1, but not the other way round.
The internet connection works fine though on both machines.
I have stopped and uninstalled ZoneAlarm, but it made no difference.
Also stopped the Win XP firewall, but made no difference either.

Now I am a complete novice to networks and I have no idea what the fault is
here.

When I run ipconfig I get the following:

Machine 1
------------

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Network Bridge (Network Bridge) 10:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 82.37.26.154
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 82.37.24.1


Machine 2
------------

ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.224
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1



Is there something with these settings?
Any advice greatly appreciated.


RBS
Click to expand...

Re-enable XP's Internet Connection Firewall on Machine 1's Local Area
Connection immediately! You need a firewall to protect your computer
from Internet hackers.

I think that the problem is being caused by the Network Bridge on
Machine 1. It probably contains two network connections, such as an
Ethernet connection and an IEEE 1394 (FireWire) connection. Follow
these steps:

1. Un-share the local area network connection for the cable modem.

2. Right click and delete the Network Bridge.

3. Re-share the local area network connection for the cable modem. If
it asks what to use for the home network, tell it to use the local
area network connection. Don't let it create a new Network Bridge.

Then, reboot Machine 2 and try accessing the Internet again.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
R

RB Smissaert

Steve,

Thanks for the reply.
I am a complete novice and I am not sure what I have to do precisely.
I have right-clicked the network bridge on machine one and unticked both
local area connection 1 and the 1394 connection.
I then deleted this network bridge.
Now I am not sure what you mean by re-share the local area connection for
the cable modem.
Could you tell me this in simple terms such as right-click this, do that
etc.
The help is greatly appreciated as I have made no progress with this for
days.

RBS
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

"RB Smissaert" said:
Steve,

Thanks for the reply.
I am a complete novice and I am not sure what I have to do precisely.
I have right-clicked the network bridge on machine one and unticked both
local area connection 1 and the 1394 connection.
I then deleted this network bridge.
Now I am not sure what you mean by re-share the local area connection for
the cable modem.
Could you tell me this in simple terms such as right-click this, do that
etc.
The help is greatly appreciated as I have made no progress with this for
days.

RBS
Click to expand...

To share or un-share the cable modem network connection:

1. Right click the connection.
2. Click Properties.
3. Click Advanced.
4. Check or un-check the box "Allow other network users to connect
through this computer's Internet connection".
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
R

RB Smissaert

Steve,

Ok, so I have the 1394 connection and the local area connection.
What will be the setting in the 1394 connection in the checkbox in Advanced,
Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet
connection?
Checked or un-checked?
If this one is checked I understand the other one in the local area
connection will be un-checked.

RBS
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

"RB Smissaert" said:
Steve,

Ok, so I have the 1394 connection and the local area connection.
What will be the setting in the 1394 connection in the checkbox in Advanced,
Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet
connection?
Checked or un-checked?
If this one is checked I understand the other one in the local area
connection will be un-checked.

RBS
Click to expand...

You don't use the 1394 (FireWire) connection for connecting your
computers to each other, so right click and disable that connection.

Enable Internet Connection Sharing on the local area connection for
the cable modem. While you have that connection's Advanced tab open,
check the box for Internet Connection Firewall to protect your
computer from Internet hackers.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
R

RB Smissaert

Steve,


OK, done that, still can't use the network.
The internet works fine on both computers, but it always did.
I might as well tell all the settings.
Here they are:

Computer 1 (the one with internet connection through a cable modem)
-------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Network connections:
-------------------

1394 connection, disabled, but settings:
---------------

General, Internet protocol TCP/IP:
general: Obtain an IP address automatically
Obtain DNS server address automatically
Advanced: IP Settings: IP address: DHCP enabled
Default gateway: nil there
Automatic metric: ticked

DNS: DNS server addresses, in order of use: nil there
Append primary and connection spefic DNS suffixes, ticked
Append parent suffixes of the primary DNS suffix, ticked
DNS suffix for this connection: nil there
Register this connection's addresses in DNS: ticked
Use this connetion's DNS in DNS registration: unticked

WINS: WINS addresses in order of use: nil there
Enable LM hosts lookup: ticked
Netbios setting: Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP: ticked

Advanced, Internet connection firewall: ticked
Internet connection sharing: both checkboxes un-ticked


Local area connection
---------------------

General, Internet protocol TCP/IP:
general: Obtain an IP address automatically
Obtain DNS server address automatically

Advanced: IP Settings: IP address: DHCP enabled
Default gateway: nil there
Automatic metric: ticked

DNS: DNS server addresses, in order of use: nil there
Append primary and connection spefic DNS suffixes, ticked
Append parent suffixes of the primary DNS suffix, ticked
DNS suffix for this connection: nil there
Register this connection's addresses in DNS: ticked
Use this connetion's DNS in DNS registration: unticked

WINS: WINS addresses in order of use: nil there
Enable LM hosts lookup: ticked
Netbios setting: Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP: ticked

Advanced, Internet connection firewall: ticked
Internet connection sharing: Allow other network users to connect through
this computer's internet connection: ticked
Allow other network users to control or disbale the shared internet
connection:

un-ticked


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Computer 2, connected to internet through computer 1
-----------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------

1394 connection, enable, settings:
---------------

General, Internet protocol TCP/IP:
general: Obtain an IP address automatically
Obtain DNS server address automatically
Advanced: IP Settings: IP address: DHCP enabled
Default gateway: nil there
Automatic metric: ticked

DNS: DNS server addresses, in order of use: nil there
Append primary and connection spefic DNS suffixes, ticked
Append parent suffixes of the primary DNS suffix, ticked
DNS suffix for this connection: nil there
Register this connection's addresses in DNS: ticked
Use this connetion's DNS in DNS registration: unticked

WINS: WINS addresses in order of use: nil there
Enable LM hosts lookup: ticked
Netbios setting: Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP: ticked

Advanced, Internet connection firewall: un-ticked
Internet connection sharing: Allow other network users to connect through
this computer's internet connection:

un-ticked
Allow other network users to control or disbale the shared internet
connection:

greyed=out, but un-ticked.


Local area connection
---------------------

General, Internet protocol TCP/IP:
general: Obtain an IP address automatically
Obtain DNS server address automatically

Advanced: IP Settings: IP address: DHCP enabled
Default gateway: nil there
Automatic metric: ticked

DNS: DNS server addresses, in order of use: nil there
Append primary and connection spefic DNS suffixes, ticked
Append parent suffixes of the primary DNS suffix, ticked
DNS suffix for this connection: nil there
Register this connection's addresses in DNS: ticked
Use this connetion's DNS in DNS registration: unticked

WINS: WINS addresses in order of use: nil there
Enable LM hosts lookup: ticked
Netbios setting: Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP: ticked

Advanced, Internet connection firewall: un-ticked


Any further suggestions or any further information needed?


RBS
 
R

RB Smissaert

If it is of any help, running netdiag /fix on machine 2 gives this:

Computer Name: D3TT441J
DNS Host Name: D3TT441J
System info : Windows 2000 Professional (Build 2600)
Processor : x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9, GenuineIntel
List of installed hotfixes :

Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed

Per interface results:

Adapter : Local Area Connection

Netcard queries test . . . : Passed

Host Name. . . . . . . . . : D3TT441J.mshome.net
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.11
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

IpConfig results . . . . . : Failed
Pinging DHCP server - not reachable
WARNING: DHCP server may be down.

AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed

Default gateway test . . . : Failed
No gateway reachable for this adapter.

NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
[WARNING] At least one of the <00> 'WorkStation Service', <03>
'Messenge
r Service', <20> 'WINS' names is missing.
No remote names have been found.

WINS service test. . . . . : Skipped
There are no WINS servers configured for this interface.


Global results:


Domain membership test . . . . . . : Passed
Dns domain name is not specified.
Dns forest name is not specified.


NetBT transports test. . . . . . . : Passed
List of NetBt transports currently configured:
NetBT_Tcpip_{CF111FDA-B5CD-48FD-9BB3-65388206D363}
1 NetBt transport currently configured.


Autonet address test . . . . . . . : Passed


IP loopback ping test. . . . . . . : Passed


Default gateway test . . . . . . . : Failed

[FATAL] NO GATEWAYS ARE REACHABLE.
You have no connectivity to other network segments.
If you configured the IP protocol manually then
you need to add at least one valid gateway.


NetBT name test. . . . . . . . . . : Passed
[WARNING] You don't have a single interface with the <00> 'WorkStation
Servi
ce', <03> 'Messenger Service', <20> 'WINS' names defined.


Winsock test . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed


DNS test . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed


Redir and Browser test . . . . . . : Passed
List of NetBt transports currently bound to the Redir
NetBT_Tcpip_{CF111FDA-B5CD-48FD-9BB3-65388206D363}
The redir is bound to 1 NetBt transport.

List of NetBt transports currently bound to the browser
NetBT_Tcpip_{CF111FDA-B5CD-48FD-9BB3-65388206D363}
The browser is bound to 1 NetBt transport.


DC discovery test. . . . . . . . . : Skipped


DC list test . . . . . . . . . . . : Skipped


Trust relationship test. . . . . . : Skipped


Kerberos test. . . . . . . . . . . : Skipped


LDAP test. . . . . . . . . . . . . : Skipped


Bindings test. . . . . . . . . . . : Passed


WAN configuration test . . . . . . : Skipped
No active remote access connections.


Modem diagnostics test . . . . . . : Passed

IP Security test . . . . . . . . . : Passed
Service status is: Started
Service startup is: Automatic
IPSec service is available, but no policy is assigned or active
Note: run "ipseccmd /?" for more detailed information


The command completed successfully



There are no fails when I run netdiag /fix on machine 1.


RBS
 

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