Is there a bug in XP atapi subsystem?

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kimiraikkonen

Hi,
Using XP SP2 with built-in IDE/Atapi drivers and two optical drives on
the same IDE channel, dvd-rw as secondary master and cd-rw as
secondary slave, when i put a non-readable or damaged disk on my dvd-
rw, the drive flies away from my computer and it loses the power! No
respond in XP. If i reset the computer the dvd-rw gets the power and
recognized again.

When this problem occurs, i get a error log in event viewer,
Source:plugPlayManager, ID: 12 saying:
"The device <device> disappeared from the system without first being
prepared for removal. "

I saw numerous messages like this on with similar symptoms:
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=12&eventno=2984&source=PlugPlayManager&phase=1

Used the same system on Windows 2000 Pro SP4 with no such problem.
Ide cables are not faulty, i can burn/read discs on same cable on
certain discs.

XP's atapi drivers or IDE controlling subsystem seems not stable
though i have SP2.

Is there anyone experienced similar problem with optical drives
symptoming disappearing after bad CD insertion and power loss on that
drive ?
 
D

Detlev Dreyer

kimiraikkonen said:
Using XP SP2 with built-in IDE/Atapi drivers and two optical drives on
the same IDE channel, dvd-rw as secondary master and cd-rw as
secondary slave, when i put a non-readable or damaged disk on my dvd-
rw, the drive flies away from my computer and it loses the power! No
respond in XP. If i reset the computer the dvd-rw gets the power and
recognized again.
[...]
Used the same system on Windows 2000 Pro SP4 with no such problem.

That's of no relevance unless using a dual-boot system since the drive
might be going south (hardware issue). You may want to replace the drive.
Ide cables are not faulty, i can burn/read discs on same cable on
certain discs.

Drive recognition problems may occur during boot and during runtime when
the slave drive (see its jumper) has been connected to the end of the
IDE ribbon cable rather than the master drive.
XP's atapi drivers or IDE controlling subsystem seems not stable
though i have SP2.

Well, cannot be confirmed here.
Is there anyone experienced similar problem with optical drives
symptoming disappearing after bad CD insertion and power loss on that
drive ?

I've seen similar problems with bad drives and wrong arrangement of the
wiring (hardware).
 
K

kimiraikkonen

kimiraikkonen said:
Using XP SP2 with built-in IDE/Atapi drivers and two optical drives on
the same IDE channel, dvd-rw as secondary master and cd-rw as
secondary slave, when i put a non-readable or damaged disk on my dvd-
rw, the drive flies away from my computer and it loses the power! No
respond in XP. If i reset the computer the dvd-rw gets the power and
recognized again.
[...]
Used the same system on Windows 2000 Pro SP4 with no such problem.

That's of no relevance unless using a dual-boot system since the drive
might be going south (hardware issue). You may want to replace the drive.
Ide cables are not faulty, i can burn/read discs on same cable on
certain discs.

Drive recognition problems may occur during boot and during runtime when
the slave drive (see its jumper) has been connected to the end of the
IDE ribbon cable rather than the master drive.
XP's atapi drivers or IDE controlling subsystem seems not stable
though i have SP2.

Well, cannot be confirmed here.
Is there anyone experienced similar problem with optical drives
symptoming disappearing after bad CD insertion and power loss on that
drive ?

I've seen similar problems with bad drives and wrong arrangement of the
wiring (hardware).

Never had such problems before with current jumper configuration on
same system and the drives till XP. I do not use cable select, they're
set master-slave jumpered properly. Maybe one of bad drives causing
the instability.

Meanwhile, XP's atapi subsystem and especially event logs' timeouts
are so impatient to reflect if there are a real error.
 

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