Is the AMD Barton Discontiued?

[john_20_28_2000]

I am trying to purchase a 2800 Barton 333 AMD CPU. I know I can get it
from newegg, etc. But I found a local place that had it for the same
as newegg and called them. They said the items was not in stock and
was being discontinued (it was MicroCenter, if it matters or you know
the store.)

I had read in some reviews that Sempron was the "low end" or the
Celerons competition. I also read that Barton was going to be phased
out...it was an article July '04.

My question is: Should I not get the Barton? What should I get
instead of the Barton? From what I saw, the Sempron was not as good,
nor do I know if it will fit my motherboard.

Thank you for comments.

 

[FingAZ]

if its anything like the athlonxp range then yes they have been discontiued
and replaced with the amd sempron- simialar processors to the athlons,
although a little lower grade and generally lower FSB's for less heat.

FingAZ.

 

[john_20_28_2000]

But slower, right?

 

[jacoby]

Semprons have 256k L2 cache as opposed to 512k. Not a big deal though. If
you want the Barton, get it while you can.

 

[kony]

I am trying to purchase a 2800 Barton 333 AMD CPU. I know I can get it
from newegg, etc. But I found a local place that had it for the same
as newegg and called them. They said the items was not in stock and
was being discontinued (it was MicroCenter, if it matters or you know
the store.)

"Not in stock" could simply mean that THEY no longer stock
it. On the other hand, yes they're being discontinued. I
expect AMD will continue making a very limited number,
though at some point they may call 512K L2 cache chips a
sempron as well?

I had read in some reviews that Sempron was the "low end" or the
Celerons competition. I also read that Barton was going to be phased
out...it was an article July '04.

yep, Semprons are a little more trouble to o'c too due to
starting out with a higher FSB (and locked multiplier?)...
which would tend to mean one needs a motherboard able to go
past 200MHz FSB & good memory to get the most out of them.

My question is: Should I not get the Barton? What should I get
instead of the Barton? From what I saw, the Sempron was not as good,
nor do I know if it will fit my motherboard.

Thank you for comments.

Get a Barton, or determine what performance downgrade you'd
accept for a difference in price, since the lower-end
Semprons are a little bit cheaper. I've not tried
overclocking one but expect they're about where the Thortons
left off, good up to 2.2-2.5GHz or so, keeping in mind the
potential FSB & locked multipler issue I mentioned above.

On the other hand, I'm still partial to the mobile Bartons,
perhaps they'll keep making those a bit longer... there are
still a lot of socket A boards being sold in the market, it
would be a shame if everyone were forced to use Semprons.
Then again if their newer chips would just drop in price
more they could fill in the budget segment and retire the
Sempron socket-A version too.

 

[theyak]

if its anything like the athlonxp range then yes they have been discontiued
and replaced with the amd sempron- simialar processors to the athlons,
although a little lower grade and generally lower FSB's for less heat.

FingAZ.

"if it's anything like?"

If you don't know for sure why are you answering?

 

[FingAZ]

key phrase- "figure of speech".

FingAZ.

"if it's anything like?"

If you don't know for sure why are you answering?

 

[john_20_28_2000]

Is there any advantage to NOT getting the XP Barton? Besides, maybe,
price. I mean "technical" advantage.

 

[theyak]

Is there any advantage to NOT getting the XP Barton? Besides, maybe,
price. I mean "technical" advantage.

It was the cream of the 32 bit crop. That's both the pro and con,
depending on your view.

I have a xp 1800... so I'd like one. If you are building a new system,
you'd probably go 64 bit.

 

[john_20_28_2000]

What advantage would that be if I don't have any 64 bit software and
the price point is so high?

 

[kony]

What advantage would that be if I don't have any 64 bit software and
the price point is so high?

Like anything else, you could pay more hoping you'll need
future support soon enough that the financial outlay
benefitted before the system was obsolete.

Without any certainty that you'd want/need 64 bit, the two
best options would be the Sempron 3000 (Athlon 64 based but
only 32 bit) or the socket A Barton (I prefer the mobile
barton but your board must support multiplier changes and
"maybe" (certainly if overclocking) voltage change support.

So far as Barton vs other socket A, yes the barton is the
best choice... but it too often costs a little more than
other socket A. To put it in perspective a Barton is
(roughly, on average) worth about 180MHz more performance
compared to non-Barton Athlon XP. That is, ignoring the
"XP(nnnn)" and judging by actual MHz speed a 2.0GHz Barton
is similar to a 2.18 GHz Athlon XP non-barton, other things
being equal like FSB.

 

[YanquiDawg]

The A64's memory controller is on the cpu itself,unlke older chips that use the
Northbridge. Memory access is much faster that way. It shows mostly in Games.
Best Gaming CPU available. And what's so expensive about an A64 2800+.Most can
easily be overclocked to 3000+ levels.