Is .NET free?

G

Guest

I downloaded .NET framework from MSDN and I can write C# programs in Notepad.
Can I sell them? Do I need any other Licenses? I don't use Visual Studio .NET.
 
C

Cowboy \(Gregory A. Beamer\)

You can do what you wish, as the .NET Framework is free. This includes
selling what you write. The main reason for picking up a good IDE is
simplifying your coding, as coding in notepad is painful.

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

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Anubhav Mishra

Its free, but think of the following things
1. Visual Studio reduced the development time by almost 30% to 50% depending
on the nature of the application.
2. Debugging is cool in VS.net

so when u can still use text editor to write a .net application I would
recoment using VS.net as the editor.

Thanks
Anubhav
 
J

Jon Skeet [C# MVP]

Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) said:
You can do what you wish, as the .NET Framework is free. This includes
selling what you write. The main reason for picking up a good IDE is
simplifying your coding, as coding in notepad is painful.

However, there are alternatives, some of which are free, which are a
lot better than Notepad :)
 
K

Kerem Gümrükcü

The main reason for picking up a good IDE is simplifying your coding, as
coding in notepad is painful.

What? Notepad is painfull? Did you ever wrote a Unix Shell script with vi
over a 33,6 Modem using ssh from the other side of the world and then
you tell us that Notepad and .NET is painfull. i wrote "fully -fledged"
applications wth notepad instead using the VS.NET or #develop, because
sometimes there is no IDE available,...........and what then?

Also this is my recommendation to new programmers: coding in notepad
will sharpening your "debugger-eye" and you will be more familliar (in fact
you must!) with the compiler and .NET Framework or whatever
Programming-Language or Technique you will use.
Everybody can work with a IDE, especially with things like VS.NET and
#develop...

Dont hate me...........this is my experience........and i think it is best
(at least to me!)


Best Regards

Kerem Gümrükcü
 
F

Frank Eller

Hi Kerem,
Also this is my recommendation to new programmers: coding in notepad
will sharpening your "debugger-eye" and you will be more familliar
(in fact you must!) with the compiler and .NET Framework or whatever
Programming-Language or Technique you will use.
Everybody can work with a IDE, especially with things like VS.NET and
#develop...

Sure. And I can also write application with notepad ... I think I know .NET
good enough and long enough to know how to write programs from scratch with
an text editor. I just don't do it ... and the reasons are obvious.

The main reason of course is that VS.NET saves me a lot of time and it also
helps me a lot while coding ... and with the next version, the
express-versions of VS.NET should not be too expensive (50$ is nothing for a
development environment like that).

However ... of course it's your choice how to work.

Regards,

Frank Eller
www.frankeller.de
 
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Jon Skeet [C# MVP]

Kerem Gümrükcü said:
What? Notepad is painfull? Did you ever wrote a Unix Shell script with vi
over a 33,6 Modem using ssh from the other side of the world and then
you tell us that Notepad and .NET is painfull. i wrote "fully -fledged"
applications wth notepad instead using the VS.NET or #develop, because
sometimes there is no IDE available,...........and what then?

Also this is my recommendation to new programmers: coding in notepad
will sharpening your "debugger-eye" and you will be more familliar (in fact
you must!) with the compiler and .NET Framework or whatever
Programming-Language or Technique you will use.
Everybody can work with a IDE, especially with things like VS.NET and
#develop...

Dont hate me...........this is my experience........and i think it is best
(at least to me!)

There are plenty of *much* better text editors than Notepad, however. I
agree that it's helpful to be capable of working without a debugger
when necessary, but a text editor which performs syntax highlighting,
can cope with having more than one file open etc doesn't stop you from
doing that - it just stops you from swearing at Notepad quite so often.
 
M

Michael Gray

I downloaded .NET framework from MSDN and I can write C# programs in Notepad.
Can I sell them? Do I need any other Licenses? I don't use Visual Studio .NET.

Why don't you go the whole hog, and use "edlin"?
 
M

Michael McCarthy

I don't know what to say, do you want a prize? Fact is, Notepad IS
painfull... I use notepad when I have to, when the project dicates it...
but I'd prefer not to. I'd prefer an IDE. Of course, sometimes you
have to do it otherwise. vi is also achingly painfull. The problem
with programs like vi is that it's just another ancient unix command
that only people who like to recompile their kernels use. In all my
time running linux boxes I've used pico... call me lame, call me
uncultured, using vi makes me want to smash myself in the face with a
glass, it's simply for the 'old guard'.

That whole attitude of close-to-the-metal era of programming is almost
as bad as the current crop of programmers who can't even seem to
construct a propper sentence.

~m.
 
O

ozbear

On Thu, 26 May 2005 15:29:02 -0400, Michael McCarthy
That whole attitude of close-to-the-metal era of programming is almost
as bad as the current crop of programmers who can't even seem to
construct a propper sentence.

~m.

Or spell "proper" properly.....

Oz
 
L

Lloyd Dupont

ho... some troll ;)

Michael McCarthy said:
I don't know what to say, do you want a prize? Fact is, Notepad IS
painfull... I use notepad when I have to, when the project dicates it...
but I'd prefer not to. I'd prefer an IDE. Of course, sometimes you have
to do it otherwise. vi is also achingly painfull. The problem with
programs like vi is that it's just another ancient unix command that only
people who like to recompile their kernels use. In all my time running
linux boxes I've used pico... call me lame, call me uncultured, using vi
makes me want to smash myself in the face with a glass, it's simply for
the 'old guard'.

That whole attitude of close-to-the-metal era of programming is almost as
bad as the current crop of programmers who can't even seem to construct a
propper sentence.

~m.
 
T

Tom Shelton

I don't know what to say, do you want a prize? Fact is, Notepad IS
painfull... I use notepad when I have to, when the project dicates it...
but I'd prefer not to. I'd prefer an IDE. Of course, sometimes you
have to do it otherwise. vi is also achingly painfull. The problem
with programs like vi is that it's just another ancient unix command
that only people who like to recompile their kernels use. In all my
time running linux boxes I've used pico... call me lame, call me
uncultured, using vi makes me want to smash myself in the face with a
glass, it's simply for the 'old guard'.

I hate vi too... Yep - just give me vim. Of course, I just recompiled
my kernel last night :)

You know what? I've always wished that VS would implement a vi mode in
the editor.... One can always dream.
 
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Alvin Bruney [MVP - ASP.NET]

in my couple months experience :) i've never had to use notepad. i think i
would promptly quit if i were forced to use notepad to code. at one place i
worked, i went thru hells trying to get the programmers to abandon notepad
to and use studio. what eventually convinced them was that i was whipping
out applications in a couple hours while their time was spent adjust screen
output and recompiling. go figure

--
Regards,
Alvin Bruney - ASP.NET MVP

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