Is chkdsk useless

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When I run "chkdsk /v" for my C partition while running windows i get message
saying
Detected minor inconsistencies on the drive. This is not a corruption.
Cleaning up 30 unused index entries from index $SII of file 9.
Cleaning up 30 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 9.
Cleaning uo 30 unused security descriptors.
As it is understood that the repair action will not take place as Windows is
running and /f switch is not used but the real problem is that the same
message appears when chkdsk is run with /f /r switches on partition C: when
starting windows.
It is also seen by me when partition is formated in FAT32 the chkdsk shows
errors and is not able to correct these. But when the same FAT32 formated
partition is checked with scandisk.exe by starting my machine with bootable
floppy of Windows ME the problems are repaired which is further confirmed
when doing chkdsk on same partition while windows is running using chkdsk
with /v switch which tells me that there is no problem.

 

[Dave Patrick]

Don't ever use win9x tools on NT'ish operating systems.

If you suspect file system corruption. After backup you might try running;
chkdsk /r
from the recovery console command line. (/r implies /f and /p)

To start the Recovery Console, start the computer from the Windows XP
CD-Rom. At the "Welcome to Setup" screen. Press F10 or R to repair a Windows
XP installation, and then press C to use the Recovery Console. The Recovery
Console then prompts you for the administrator password. If you do not have
the correct password, Recovery Console does not allow access to the
computer. If an incorrect password is entered three times, the Recovery
Console quits and restarts the computer. Note If the registry is corrupted
or missing or no valid installations are found, the Recovery Console starts
in the root of the startup volume without requiring a password. You cannot
access any folders, but you can carry out commands such as chkdsk, fixboot,
and fixmbr for limited disk repairs. Once the password has been validated,
you have full access to the Recovery Console, but limited access to the hard
disk. You can only access the following folders on your computer: drive
root, %systemroot% or %windir%


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:
| When I run "chkdsk /v" for my C partition while running windows i get
message
| saying
| Detected minor inconsistencies on the drive. This is not a corruption.
| Cleaning up 30 unused index entries from index $SII of file 9.
| Cleaning up 30 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 9.
| Cleaning uo 30 unused security descriptors.
| As it is understood that the repair action will not take place as Windows
is
| running and /f switch is not used but the real problem is that the same
| message appears when chkdsk is run with /f /r switches on partition C:
when
| starting windows.
| It is also seen by me when partition is formated in FAT32 the chkdsk shows
| errors and is not able to correct these. But when the same FAT32 formated
| partition is checked with scandisk.exe by starting my machine with
bootable
| floppy of Windows ME the problems are repaired which is further confirmed
| when doing chkdsk on same partition while windows is running using chkdsk
| with /v switch which tells me that there is no problem.
|

 

[Wesley Vogel]

When I run "chkdsk /v" for my C partition while running windows i get
message
saying

All the /v switch does is On FAT/FAT32: Displays the full path and name of
every file
on the disk.

Reading a chkdsk log

chkdsk log will be similar to this...

Cleaning up minor inconsistencies on the drive.
Cleaning up 30 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 30 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 30 unused security descriptors.

It is housecleaning and housecleaning is going to happen if you run
chkdsk.exe. Think Merry Maids with brooms.

Cleaning up minor inconsistencies on the drive.

[[In the above error message, "minor inconsistencies" refers to a state
where redundant information stored in different places is "out of synch."
This is a natural and expected condition whenever there are open files on
the volume that have undergone modification. The redundant information is
not brought into synchronization until the files are closed. Typically, this
error message occurs when CHKDSK is run against the volume containing
Windows NT system files (including active user profiles and the pagefile).

WORKAROUND
You can usually safely ignore this error message even if the message appears
without there being open files, because it is only the redundant information
that is out of synchronization. The only side effect you may see as a result
of this message is an incorrect reading of free disk space or something
similar. ]]
from...
"CHKDSK detected minor inconsistencies" error message in Windows 2000 and in
Windows NT
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/109524

Cleaning up 30 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 30 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.

[[Chkdsk.exe reports only unused index and security descriptor entries that
were removed. ]]
[[Chkdsk.exe just reclaims the unused security descriptors as a housekeeping
activity, and it does not actually fix any kind of problem. ]]
from...
Windows 2000 Chkdsk Reports Cleaning Unused Security Descriptors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255008

Cleaning up 30 unused security descriptors.

[[When you delete a file or folder with permissions that you've set by hand
rather than allowed to be automatically inherited from its parent, the ACL
(Access Control List, the security descriptor) isn't deleted, but cached.
Running CHKDSK against these "dead" items cleans up the ACLs that are no
longer in use and frees up space. ]]
from...
Tip: Don't Panic At CHKDSK "Security Descriptor" Cleanup
http://www.winmag.com/columns/powerw2k/2000/46.htm#tip

[[This problem occurs because if Chkdsk is run against an NTFS volume,
Chkdsk.exe may report that security descriptors are in the database that are
no longer referenced by any file or folder and that it is removing them.
However, Chkdsk.exe just reclaims the unused security descriptors as a
housekeeping activity, and it does not actually fix any kind of problem. ]]
from...
Windows 2000 Chkdsk Reports Cleaning Unused Security Descriptors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255008

[[4096543 KB total disk space.
(This value is the total formatted disk capacity.)

2906360 KB in 19901 files.
(This value is the space used by user file data.)

6344 KB in 1301 indexes.
(This value is the space used by NTFS indexes.)

0 KB in bad sectors.
(This value is the space lost to bad sectors.)

49379 KB in use by the system.
(This value is includes MFT and other NTFS metafiles.)

22544 KB occupied by the log file.
(This value is the NTFS Log file; you use the chkdsk /l:size to adjust this
value.)

1134460 KB available on disk.
(This value is the available FREE disk space.)

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
(This value is the cluster size [4K])

1024135 total allocation units on disk.
(This value is the total clusters on disk.)

283615 allocation units available on disk.
(This value is the available free clusters.) ]]
from...
How to locate and correct disk space problems on NTFS volumes in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315688

See also...
Understanding what CHKDSK does
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314835/en-us#XSLTH3154121123120121120120

From...
An explanation of the new /C and /I Switches that are available to use with
Chkdsk.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314835

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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