Is CA EZ Antivirus any good?

[Bob]

ok, give me your name, address, telephone number and credit card
number... i want to show you something...

what's that you say? you're not dumb enough to do that? well how could
that have happened without becoming educated?

Purely anecdotal. And highly contrived.

I wish you were right but you aren't. I remember the day that some
"consultant" from one of the more prestigeous consulting firms opened
an email attachment and infected our LAN. It cost me a day's work
while they disinfected over 100 machines manually.

What a sorry loser that sucker was - and to add insult to injury he
was being charged out at some insane rate. They eventually fired him,
thank God.

 

[Frederic Bonroy]

kurt wismer a écrit :

will not use an on-access scanner that slows their system to a crawl...

Some will... I don't know how some people manage to actually work with
their computers. They have tons of anti-this and anti-that software
installed and everything takes forever.

 

[Bob]

kurt wismer a écrit :


Some will... I don't know how some people manage to actually work with
their computers. They have tons of anti-this and anti-that software
installed and everything takes forever.

That's what all those GHz are for.

I had McAfee AV on a 500 MHz K6-II and it would work without bogging
things down as long as I only scanned executables. When I told it to
scan everything on-access, the machine would slow down a bit.
Unfortunately there is no "already-scanned bit" like the "archive bit"
so McAfee would scan anything I opened even if it had been scanned a
zillion times before.

Then Kerio Personal Firewall had to stick its nose in to check if the
M5D was good and if the executable was trying to establish a network
connection. And with email the spam agent MailWasher would also get
into the act. It was amazing that old K6-II could keep up, what with
it not having any L2 cache.

Now I have a 2.4 GHz Celeron D with CA AV and of course it runs
without bogging anything down.

"GHz Rules!"

"You Can Never Have Enough GHz!"

 

[kurt wismer]

Purely anecdotal. And highly contrived.

I wish you were right but you aren't. I remember the day that some
"consultant" from one of the more prestigeous consulting firms opened
an email attachment and infected our LAN. It cost me a day's work
while they disinfected over 100 machines manually.

What a sorry loser that sucker was - and to add insult to injury he
was being charged out at some insane rate. They eventually fired him,
thank God.

yours would be the anecdotal statement...

the fact of the matter is that people *do* learn... they learn not to
hand out their credit card information willy-nilly, and they learn not
to open dodgy attachments... there are still some clueless people out
there but there are fewer now than there were before...

 

[null]

the fact of the matter is that people *do* learn... they learn not to
hand out their credit card information willy-nilly, and they learn not
to open dodgy attachments... there are still some clueless people out
there but there are fewer now than there were before...

Nah. There's a new sucker born every minute.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[kurt wismer]

Nah. There's a new sucker born every minute.

true, but clues are born every 59.99 seconds...

the process of user education may be glacially slow, but it is happening
as we speak...

 

[Bob]

true, but clues are born every 59.99 seconds...

the process of user education may be glacially slow, but it is happening
as we speak...

Unfortunately the number of ways to sucker people is growing faster.


--

Map of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html

"Nothing in the world can take the place of perseverence. Talent
will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education
will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and
determination alone are omnipotent."
--Calvin Coolidge

 

[kurt wismer]

Unfortunately the number of ways to sucker people is growing faster.

and the more of those there are, the easier it will be for the clueless
to recognize the pattern...

the clueful have already figured out how to treat attachments, for
example, but the clueless have not (they only worry about ones that say
"i love you" or crap like that)... eventually there will be so many
different 'attackments' in the public consciousness that little light
bulbs will go on over a bunch of people's heads...

 

[Bob]

the clueful have already figured out how to treat attachments, for
example, but the clueless have not (they only worry about ones that say
"i love you" or crap like that)... eventually there will be so many
different 'attackments' in the public consciousness that little light
bulbs will go on over a bunch of people's heads...

That's what the ISPs figured a few years back but it did not work out
that way. So for purposes of avoinding liability they started
implementing filters which keep the clueless from causing any more
harm. Try sending yourself a test virus like eicar. If your ISP is
filtering, it won't go thru.

BTW, be sure to include among the clueless those people who work at
Microsoft. The buffer overrun vulnerability was known in the UNIX
world literally years before it was exploited on IIS web servers.

We have the clueless at MS to thank for DoS extortion - and preventing
me from running a legitimate web server (RoadRunner blocked port 80
after the buffer overrun attacks became prominent).


--

Map of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html

"Nothing in the world can take the place of perseverence. Talent
will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education
will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and
determination alone are omnipotent."
--Calvin Coolidge

 

[kurt wismer]

That's what the ISPs figured a few years back but it did not work out
that way. So for purposes of avoinding liability they started
implementing filters which keep the clueless from causing any more
harm.

and a good job it does at limiting epidemics, but viruses and worms
still manage to get through, clueless users still get bitten, and those
viruses and worms work their way into the public consciousness...

people (in the aggregate) are getting smarter all the time... sometimes
it's hard to see it, but it's happening...