Invisible Processes - Why?

[Adahn]

How come it's still possible for programs to hide their processes?

Download the free game Maple Story (www.mapleglobal.com) and check out it's
GameGuard "Hack Prevention System" for an example

 

[Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\)]

Because some programs are built this way.

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[Peter Lawton]

I tend to disagree there, programs can hide their processes but only because
the OS is built to allow them to hide from Task Manager.

I wouldn't like to hazard whether that's a good or a bad thing, from a
security point of view probably bad but it might well have some legitimate
uses.

Plenty of 3rd party utilities that can show hidden processes though.

Peter Lawton

 

[capitan]

I tend to disagree there, programs can hide their processes but only because
the OS is built to allow them to hide from Task Manager.

I wouldn't like to hazard whether that's a good or a bad thing, from a
security point of view probably bad but it might well have some legitimate
uses.

Plenty of 3rd party utilities that can show hidden processes though.

Peter Lawton

Vista enables rootkits?!?

 

[Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\)]

Uh huh.

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[Adahn]

Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant comments
has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam?

 

[Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\)]

Why would you say that? I gave an answer didn't I?

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[Jason]

I guess he didn't understand what Uh huh.ment. I really want to thank both
you and Andrea De Costa. I am sure there are others, but you two really
stand out in this forum. Thank you for all of your support.

 

[Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\)]

Wow ) Thanks very much )

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[capitan]

Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant
comments has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam?

I don't know if you are the only one, I can only say I do not agree. I
find Zack to refreshingly open and honest in all responses about the
good as well as the bad of Vista. Zack, thanks for your continuing
objectivity of your posts and thanks for the answer to my question.
Adahn, I feel the same about your posts here, they are very objective.
Thank you also.

 

[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

Thank you very much, Zack and I both share a passion for this operating
system and so do many of you who participate here. I to be part of that
experiencing of at least helping make people understand what Windows Vista
is all about based on my perspective an knowledge of the operating system.
Its a learning experience for and thats probably one of the best things
about it, we are harnessing each others expertise and benefitting in gooey
goodness of it all.

Andrea De Costa - o_O
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[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE]

Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant
comments has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam?

You are certainly part of a small minority, but probably not the only one.

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[Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\)]

Hey, I just say it how it is )

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[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

The grammar stunk in that one:
Thank you very much, Zack and I both share a passion for this operating
system and so do many of you who participate here. To be a part of that
experience of at least helping to make people understand what Windows Vista
is all about based on my perspective and knowledge of the operating system.
Its a learning experience for me and thats probably one of the best things
about it, we are harnessing each others expertise and benefitting in the
gooey
goodness of it all.
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[Jane Colman]

And there's nothing wrong with gooey goodness

 

[Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\)]

I love gooey goodness... usually comes in the form of something wrapped with
chocolate on the inside ) Hmm....

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[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

There is nothing wrong with being spoiled every now and then.
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[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

Zack wrote: Hey, I just say it how it is......sometimes )


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[Guest]

If that's the case then I think I am Adahn share a passion for *unified
UI* for *all* Microsoft operating system...


Note I didn't use capital letters this time...

 

[Guest]

oops, and grammatical error like Andre...

If that's the case then I think I *and* Adahn share a passion for
*unified and consistence
UI* for *all* Microsoft operating system starting from 2006...