Intel responds to AMD dual-core challenge...

[Yousuf Khan]

....in China. According to Intel's big guy in northern China, AMD has
been lying about Intel's dual-core, and that Intel actually introduced
its first dual-core back in 1995!

People's Daily Online -- Intel responds to AMD criticism of "false
dual-core processor"
http://english.people.com.cn/200602/27/eng20060227_246409.html

Intel man accuses AMD of lying about dual cores
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29933

 

[Tony Hill]

...in China. According to Intel's big guy in northern China, AMD has
been lying about Intel's dual-core, and that Intel actually introduced
its first dual-core back in 1995!

Pentium Pro? I certainly wouldn't call it "dual core", but if one did
a sufficient stretch of the imagination then they might. It was two
chips on the same module, very much like Intel's latest dual-core
offerings (ie the Pentium D 9x0 chips). Most of us tend to think of
those as "multi-chip modules", and I'm pretty darn certain that Intel
wasn't first there either.

If it's not the Pentium Pro that he's talking about, then what is it?

 

[The little lost angel]

If it's not the Pentium Pro that he's talking about, then what is it?

Hang on, give us a few more days to age, erm I mean, produce the
relevant internal documentation of this top secret dual core project
we had back in the 1995 that didn't make it to commercialization.

 

[David Kanter]

Pentium Pro? I certainly wouldn't call it "dual core", but if one did

a sufficient stretch of the imagination then they might. It was two
chips on the same module, very much like Intel's latest dual-core
offerings (ie the Pentium D 9x0 chips). Most of us tend to think of
those as "multi-chip modules", and I'm pretty darn certain that Intel
wasn't first there either.

If it's not the Pentium Pro that he's talking about, then what is it?

Maybe some of the comms designs that were acquired? They have multiple
'microengines' some might even have multiple cores. I don't think
Intel owned those before '96-'97 though (when did the acquisition binge
start?).

Dennis O'Connor can probably enlighten us on the IXP/Xscale front.

DK

 

[Yousuf Khan]

Pentium Pro? I certainly wouldn't call it "dual core", but if one did
a sufficient stretch of the imagination then they might. It was two
chips on the same module, very much like Intel's latest dual-core
offerings (ie the Pentium D 9x0 chips). Most of us tend to think of
those as "multi-chip modules", and I'm pretty darn certain that Intel
wasn't first there either.

If it's not the Pentium Pro that he's talking about, then what is it?

I think he's just talking about multi-processors. The guy sounds like a
marketing manager, he can't be expected to know technology.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Keith]

Pentium Pro? I certainly wouldn't call it "dual core", but if one did
a sufficient stretch of the imagination then they might. It was two
chips on the same module, very much like Intel's latest dual-core
offerings (ie the Pentium D 9x0 chips). Most of us tend to think of
those as "multi-chip modules", and I'm pretty darn certain that Intel
wasn't first there either.

I'm reasonably certain of that too. ;-) From the '70s:

http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/vintage/vintage_4506VV2137.html

If it's not the Pentium Pro that he's talking about, then what is it?

I thought PPro too, but perhaps L'Angel has a better answer; "Hang
on, give us a few more days to age, erm I mean...". ;-)

 

[Gnu.Raiz]

I'm reasonably certain of that too. ;-) From the '70s:

http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/vintage/vintage_4506VV2137.html


I thought PPro too, but perhaps L'Angel has a better answer; "Hang
on, give us a few more days to age, erm I mean...". ;-)

That's funny, it sounds like this group is like the groklaw of the
comp.sys Usenet airways Which is good, I like people who know their
stuff. I read enough fud as it is, no need to make it worse.

Gnu_Raiz

 

[George Macdonald]

...in China. According to Intel's big guy in northern China, AMD has
been lying about Intel's dual-core, and that Intel actually introduced
its first dual-core back in 1995!

People's Daily Online -- Intel responds to AMD criticism of "false
dual-core processor"
http://english.people.com.cn/200602/27/eng20060227_246409.html

Intel man accuses AMD of lying about dual cores
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29933

Seems like maybe the 1989 ref. came from here:
http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/201969.htm?prn=Y (PDF
link at the bottom) but our Chinese friend appears to have misread or
misunderstood the 1995 as being multi-core, when in fact it refers to a
"'glue-less' multi-processing capability with the introduction of the
Intel® Pentium® Pro processor". Maybe he just didn't read the next
sentence, which talks of "four processors on a single board"... or maybe he
wouldn't have understood what that meant?

At any rate it would appear that AMD must be making serious inroads in the
Chinese market for this kind of err, unseemly, public whingeing... what
with Lenovo's announcement just a few days ago that you can have AMD or
Intel by choice. As previously noted in another, but similar, context,
this very un-Intel-like behavior.

 

[Yousuf Khan]

At any rate it would appear that AMD must be making serious inroads in the
Chinese market for this kind of err, unseemly, public whingeing... what
with Lenovo's announcement just a few days ago that you can have AMD or
Intel by choice. As previously noted in another, but similar, context,
this very un-Intel-like behavior.

Yeah, it does seem un-Intel-like. Here's another, this time from Dell:

CIOL : News : Dell to stick with Intel
"Responding to a question relating to rival vendors trying to veer away
Dell customers to Opteron-based servers, he said that contrary to the
perception, Opteron-based servers have not impacted the company's market
share.

“Dell grew its server business 11 percent compared to a Opteron-based
server vendor, which recorded zero percent growth last quarter. We
continue to take in more share of the X86 server market,” he said."
http://www.ciol.com/content/news/2006/106030111.asp


Notice it said it lost to "a Opteron-based server vendor, which recorded
zero percent growth last quarter." So Dell outsold *one* single server
vendor which makes it so very happy?

Yousuf Khan

 

[The little lost angel]

“Dell grew its server business 11 percent compared to a Opteron-based
server vendor, which recorded zero percent growth last quarter. We
continue to take in more share of the X86 server market,” he said."
http://www.ciol.com/content/news/2006/106030111.asp


Notice it said it lost to "a Opteron-based server vendor, which recorded
zero percent growth last quarter." So Dell outsold *one* single server
vendor which makes it so very happy?

Since they didn't name the vendor, it could some really small outfit
no? Or is there something that I'm missing that implies it must be one
of the big brand names?

 

[Del Cecchi]

Yeah, it does seem un-Intel-like. Here's another, this time from Dell:

CIOL : News : Dell to stick with Intel
"Responding to a question relating to rival vendors trying to veer away
Dell customers to Opteron-based servers, he said that contrary to the
perception, Opteron-based servers have not impacted the company's
market share.

“Dell grew its server business 11 percent compared to a Opteron-based
server vendor, which recorded zero percent growth last quarter. We
continue to take in more share of the X86 server market,” he said."
http://www.ciol.com/content/news/2006/106030111.asp


Notice it said it lost to "a Opteron-based server vendor, which
recorded zero percent growth last quarter." So Dell outsold *one*
single server vendor which makes it so very happy?

Yousuf Khan

I don't even know who such a Opteron based server vendor could be? Sun?
Monarch?

del