Installing Two Operating Systems 4 Speed

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FARAZ QURESHI

Me and my wife use a single machine. However, I am quite always in need of
numerous software, but installing them all causes quite a slow speed and
time-consuming launch of the system itself, which sure does drives my wife
mad!

If I install an additional operating system (probably a former different
windows version) for her would it cater the need and have a clean registry?
or both the operating systems would be possessing the same pace and speed,
although all the software would it be installed while using a single
operating system?

Thanx in advance!
 
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philo

FARAZ QURESHI said:
Me and my wife use a single machine. However, I am quite always in need of
numerous software, but installing them all causes quite a slow speed and
time-consuming launch of the system itself, which sure does drives my wife
mad!

If I install an additional operating system (probably a former different
windows version) for her would it cater the need and have a clean registry?
or both the operating systems would be possessing the same pace and speed,
although all the software would it be installed while using a single
operating system?

Thanx in advance!


Why not keep the present profile for yourself

then create a new one for your wife?



http://shelluser.mvps.org/kb/XP_Creating_Profile_wg.htm
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

FARAZ QURESHI said:
Me and my wife use a single machine. However, I am quite always in need of
numerous software, but installing them all causes quite a slow speed and
time-consuming launch of the system itself, which sure does drives my wife
mad!

If I install an additional operating system (probably a former different
windows version) for her would it cater the need and have a clean
registry?
or both the operating systems would be possessing the same pace and speed,
although all the software would it be installed while using a single
operating system?

Thanx in advance!

Whether the registry is "clean" or otherwise makes no difference at all to
the speed of your machine, even though the registry cleaner merchants try to
convince you otherwise. What matters in the startup process is two things:
- The startup services you launch, and
- The startup tasks you invoke.

While installing two versions of Windows might speed up your wife's version
of Windows, a far simpler but equally effective method would be to use a
tool such as msconfig.exe to disable all unwanted services and tasks. You
could then place a batch file into your own Startup folder. It would perform
two tasks:
- Start the services you previously disabled, and
- Launch the startup tasks you disabled.

This modification is based on Philo's suggestion of using two different
profiles and would require around ten minutes to implement.
 
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FARAZ QURESHI

Thanx Philo!

We both already have different accounts, but the she doesn't require most of
the software that are installed and take time to boot up at start!

Would you kindly let me know HOW to create an account which would simply
"only" load Windows and MS-Office?
 
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db.·.. >

my suggestion is to add a
secondary harddrive and
install an o.s. onto it.

the installation of the o.s.
will create a dual boot menu
whereas the option to boot
one o.s. or the other will be
provided.

upgrading your system with
another disk and having another
o.s. will also provide you with a
back up o.s. in the event of
a disk or system crash.

also, what would likely be helpful
is to increase the size of memory
if you think your software is causing
the computer to be sluggish.


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F

FARAZ QURESHI

Thanx Pegasus,

We both already have different accounts, but the she doesn't require most of
the software like Adobe's Acrobat, Photoshop, Audition etc. that are
installed and take time to boot up at start!

Would you kindly let me know HOW to create an account which would simply
"only and only" load Windows and MS-Office?

Thanx again!
 
P

philo

FARAZ QURESHI said:
Thanx Philo!

We both already have different accounts, but the she doesn't require most of
the software that are installed and take time to boot up at start!

Would you kindly let me know HOW to create an account which would simply
"only" load Windows and MS-Office?



See the excellent reply by Pegasus
 
F

FARAZ QURESHI

Thanx!
That's exactly what I meant! That would work with installing windows xp on
one & windows 2000 pro on the other PARTITION of the same hard disk as well,
won't it?
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Best Regards,
FARAZ A. QURESHI


db.·.. > said:
my suggestion is to add a
secondary harddrive and
install an o.s. onto it.

the installation of the o.s.
will create a dual boot menu
whereas the option to boot
one o.s. or the other will be
provided.

upgrading your system with
another disk and having another
o.s. will also provide you with a
back up o.s. in the event of
a disk or system crash.

also, what would likely be helpful
is to increase the size of memory
if you think your software is causing
the computer to be sluggish.


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db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
 
F

FARAZ QURESHI

Can you guide + suggest a batch file for my wife's account, to launch only
the features of MS-Office and not other unnecessary applications for her?
 
L

LVTravel

FARAZ QURESHI said:
Thanx Pegasus,

We both already have different accounts, but the she doesn't require most
of
the software like Adobe's Acrobat, Photoshop, Audition etc. that are
installed and take time to boot up at start!

Would you kindly let me know HOW to create an account which would simply
"only and only" load Windows and MS-Office?

Thanx again!

What Pegasus is trying to say is to boot Windows plain without your programs
starting. Create two batch files that launch each person's individual
programs when you or your wife sign onto the individual accounts. Put those
individual batch files into the startup folder for each user's individual
account.
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

OK, here is what you can do:
1. Log on under your own account.
2. Click Start/Run/notepad{OK}
3. Launch msconfig.exe via the Start/Run menu.
4. Click the Services tab.
5. Hide all Microsoft services.
6. Identify the services that are irrelevant for your wife.
Example: "Remote Packet Capture".
7. Remove the tick mark for the "Remote Packet Capture" service.
8. Switch to your notepad session and type this command:
Net start "Remote Packet Capture"
9. Repeat Steps 7 and 8 for the remaining irrelevant services.
10. Click the Startup tab in MSConfig.
11. Identify the tasks that are irrelevant for your wife.
Example: realsched
12. Remove the tick mark in front of "realsched".
13. Manually copy the whole line for "realsched" into your notepad,
e.g. like so:
"c:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
It's best to arrange the msconfig frame just above the notepad frame
in order to avoid typing errors.
14. Repeat Steps 12 to 13 for the remaining irrelevant tasks.
15. Switch to your notepad session.
16. Make the first line like so:
@echo off
17. Click File/Save As.
18. Type this name (with the double quotes!) but do NOT press Enter:
"%userprofile\Start menu\Programs\Startup\Startup.bat"
19. Select "All Files" in the "Save as type" box, then press Enter.
20. Create a backup copy of this file.
21. Close msconfig.exe, reboot and log on under your wife's name.
22. Click the msconfig box that will prevent the notification from
coming up next time.

You now have a selective boot environment. You get all services
and tasks at start time but your wife gets only the selected minimum set.
 
F

FARAZ QURESHI

No doubt an XClent advice but how 2 create a batch file to launch only
MS-Office on startup and refraining other?
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

FARAZ QURESHI said:
YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANX PAL!

Thanks for the feedback. I just noticed that there is a mistake in Step 18.
It currently reads
18. Type this name (with the double quotes!) but do NOT press Enter:
"%userprofile\Start menu\Programs\Startup\Startup.bat"
but it should read
18. Type this name (with the double quotes!) but do NOT press Enter:
"%userprofile%\Start menu\Programs\Startup\Startup.bat"
 
O

Onsokumaru

Yes. On different partitions will work fine.

Back up your old partition first just in cast things don't go as planned.

FARAZ QURESHI said:
Thanx!
That's exactly what I meant! That would work with installing windows xp on
one & windows 2000 pro on the other PARTITION of the same hard disk as
well,
won't it?
 
K

Ken Blake

Me and my wife use a single machine. However, I am quite always in need of
numerous software, but installing them all causes quite a slow speed and
time-consuming launch of the system itself, which sure does drives my wife
mad!

If I install an additional operating system (probably a former different
windows version) for her would it cater the need and have a clean
registry?


Yes. It would do so even it were a second copy of the same Windows version.
 
D

db.·.. >

actually, you should install
one o.s. per disk.

if you install multiple o.s.'s
on a single but partitioned
disk, you will be putting your
system at risk for a crash
as a result of a corrupted
hal.

you can do the research
on the above here but i
would simply add another
hd as it has multiple benefits:

http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?form=MSHOME&setlang=en-us&q=corrupted+hal&mkt=en-us
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DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

FARAZ QURESHI said:
Thanx!
That's exactly what I meant! That would work with installing windows xp on
one & windows 2000 pro on the other PARTITION of the same hard disk as well,
won't it?
 
J

John John (MVP)

db.·.. > said:
actually, you should install
one o.s. per disk.

if you install multiple o.s.'s
on a single but partitioned
disk, you will be putting your
system at risk for a crash
as a result of a corrupted
hal.

Utter nonsense. While it may be preferable to install the operating
systems on different hard disks installing them on separate partitions
on the same disk does not put the system at risk of hal corruption any
more than having them on different hard disks. Unless you decide to
install and boot the operating system independently of one another by
toggling the hard disks via the BIOS or with the help of a third party
boot manager the Windows XP installations will still be sharing the same
system files (Boot.ini, NTDETECT.COM & ntldr) regardless of whether they
are installed on different partitions or different disks, this hal
corruption notion is nothing but FUD.

John
 
O

Onsokumaru

John John (MVP) said:
Utter nonsense. While it may be preferable to install the operating
systems on different hard disks installing them on separate partitions on
the same disk does not put the system at risk of hal corruption any more
than having them on different hard disks. Unless you decide to install
and boot the operating system independently of one another by toggling the
hard disks via the BIOS or with the help of a third party boot manager the
Windows XP installations will still be sharing the same system files
(Boot.ini, NTDETECT.COM & ntldr) regardless of whether they are installed
on different partitions or different disks, this hal corruption notion is
nothing but FUD.

John

Well, I must say I have a machine that is triple booting XP pro, XP64 and
Vista ultimate and have not seen, nor experienced any issues, so a pointer
to corrupted HAL information as a result of this would be interesting to
look at.
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Onsokumaru said:
Well, I must say I have a machine that is triple booting XP pro, XP64 and
Vista ultimate and have not seen, nor experienced any issues, so a pointer
to corrupted HAL information as a result of this would be interesting to
look at.

As John said, there is no danger of HAL corruption. Having multiple OSs on
the same disk (but on different partitions) is perfectly OK.
 

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