Installing 64bit Vista over 32bit Vista/XP64bit?

[Guest]

So I hear those who are massive gamers; higher the memory the better the
gaming.

I was thinking of upping my RAM to 4gigs of memory instead of 2. Though I
read that Vista 32bit will only detect RAM/display up to 3gigs so if I have
4gigs it will read as 3 only. If I ugprade my Vista to 64bit, then it will
display correct settings and what not.

I currently have 32bit Vista installed, is it easy to upgrade to 64bit, or
do I have to WIPE my HD clean and start fresh for 64bit?

Also does the same apply to Windows XP; do I need to find a 64bit version of
XP to utilize the proper memory modules? Where/How can I buy the 64bit
version of XP; does it say it on the box?

Thanks for the reading/postings

 

[Guest]

Wipe your HDD and clean install for 64bit Vista.; upgrade not accepted.

 

[Richard G. Harper]

Not exactly. To a point yes, the more memory the better ... however, recent
testing has shown that a number of games don't like 4gb or more of memory
and when they hit that barrier lots of strange things start happening.

And yes, as Mick pointed out, going from 32-bit to 64-bit means wiping the
system and starting over. Hopefully all your devices have 64-bit drivers.
If not, it won't be fun.

Add to that possible application compatibility issues (not all games will
run in 64-bit Windows whether XP or Vista) and maybe you're better off
staying where you are at now.

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[Charlie Tame]

Wipe your HDD and clean install for 64bit Vista.; upgrade not accepted.

Drivers for XP 64 are a nightmare to find, you cannot use the same
drivers for 64 bit Vista, neither 64 bit version is faster than 32 bit
for the majority of applications out there and XP is not going to see
much improvement although Vista "Should". There may be a lot of stuff
you take for ganted with XP 32 that you simply will never be able to use
with 64 bit XP. By all means get 4GB, but don't expect a massive
improvement in speed. Yes from 1 to 2 G, less from 2 to 4 G. With 32 bit
some of the 4G will be "Wasted" but just how much depends on what
hardware you have that "Overlaps" the address space. If you upgrade to
64 bit later you will at least have 4G of matched RAM that will be dual
channel.

By all means get as many opinions as you can but I wouldn't even
consider XP 64 especially for gaming, more compatibility issues for no
useful gains IMHO.

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

Games like memory for sure, but they also like big CPUs and high end
graphics cards..

 

[Guest]

Hmmm I C

Well someone said going from 1-2=big difference in memory but going from 2-4
not much difference? So I am to presume that going from 2-3 not much
difference either?

So then perhaps I should consider upgrading my CPU then?

I currently own a AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 5400 ~2.8gig

I may have said or not but I'm a huge gamer and there some games that doesnt
seem to run very well, well does but could be better ya know

Larry-

Not exactly. To a point yes, the more memory the better ... however, recent
testing has shown that a number of games don't like 4gb or more of memory
and when they hit that barrier lots of strange things start happening.

And yes, as Mick pointed out, going from 32-bit to 64-bit means wiping the
system and starting over. Hopefully all your devices have 64-bit drivers.
If not, it won't be fun.

Add to that possible application compatibility issues (not all games will
run in 64-bit Windows whether XP or Vista) and maybe you're better off
staying where you are at now.

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So I hear those who are massive gamers; higher the memory the better the
gaming.

I was thinking of upping my RAM to 4gigs of memory instead of 2. Though I
read that Vista 32bit will only detect RAM/display up to 3gigs so if I
have
4gigs it will read as 3 only. If I ugprade my Vista to 64bit, then it
will
display correct settings and what not.

I currently have 32bit Vista installed, is it easy to upgrade to 64bit, or
do I have to WIPE my HD clean and start fresh for 64bit?

Also does the same apply to Windows XP; do I need to find a 64bit version
of
XP to utilize the proper memory modules? Where/How can I buy the 64bit
version of XP; does it say it on the box?

Thanks for the reading/postings

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

What video card do you have?

Hmmm I C

Well someone said going from 1-2=big difference in memory but going from
2-4
not much difference? So I am to presume that going from 2-3 not much
difference either?

So then perhaps I should consider upgrading my CPU then?

I currently own a AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 5400 ~2.8gig

I may have said or not but I'm a huge gamer and there some games that
doesnt
seem to run very well, well does but could be better ya know

Larry-

Not exactly. To a point yes, the more memory the better ... however,
recent
testing has shown that a number of games don't like 4gb or more of memory
and when they hit that barrier lots of strange things start happening.

And yes, as Mick pointed out, going from 32-bit to 64-bit means wiping
the
system and starting over. Hopefully all your devices have 64-bit
drivers.
If not, it won't be fun.

Add to that possible application compatibility issues (not all games will
run in 64-bit Windows whether XP or Vista) and maybe you're better off
staying where you are at now.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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So I hear those who are massive gamers; higher the memory the better
the
gaming.

I was thinking of upping my RAM to 4gigs of memory instead of 2.
Though I
read that Vista 32bit will only detect RAM/display up to 3gigs so if I
have
4gigs it will read as 3 only. If I ugprade my Vista to 64bit, then it
will
display correct settings and what not.

I currently have 32bit Vista installed, is it easy to upgrade to 64bit,
or
do I have to WIPE my HD clean and start fresh for 64bit?

Also does the same apply to Windows XP; do I need to find a 64bit
version
of
XP to utilize the proper memory modules? Where/How can I buy the 64bit
version of XP; does it say it on the box?

Thanks for the reading/postings

 

[John Barnes]

Your best bet are 1. Upgrade your memory to the highest bandwidth and
lowest latencies your motherboard will allow. 2. Upgrade your cpu. Since
you only run your game on 1 core you are running on 2.8GHz. Don't know
where you got a 5400+ as they went from 5200+ to 5600+, but based on the GHz
you state you must have a 5600+. I would certainly do #1 first as #2 will
only marginally give you a boost as the 6400+ is currently the top unless
you go FX. As to 64-bit, I agree that you probably won't find much
advantage with 64-bit and drivers are a problem. You could post on the
microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general group to see it they can give you
more advice on specific games.

Hmmm I C

Well someone said going from 1-2=big difference in memory but going from
2-4
not much difference? So I am to presume that going from 2-3 not much
difference either?

So then perhaps I should consider upgrading my CPU then?

I currently own a AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 5400 ~2.8gig

I may have said or not but I'm a huge gamer and there some games that
doesnt
seem to run very well, well does but could be better ya know

Larry-

Not exactly. To a point yes, the more memory the better ... however,
recent
testing has shown that a number of games don't like 4gb or more of memory
and when they hit that barrier lots of strange things start happening.

And yes, as Mick pointed out, going from 32-bit to 64-bit means wiping
the
system and starting over. Hopefully all your devices have 64-bit
drivers.
If not, it won't be fun.

Add to that possible application compatibility issues (not all games will
run in 64-bit Windows whether XP or Vista) and maybe you're better off
staying where you are at now.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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So I hear those who are massive gamers; higher the memory the better
the
gaming.

I was thinking of upping my RAM to 4gigs of memory instead of 2.
Though I
read that Vista 32bit will only detect RAM/display up to 3gigs so if I
have
4gigs it will read as 3 only. If I ugprade my Vista to 64bit, then it
will
display correct settings and what not.

I currently have 32bit Vista installed, is it easy to upgrade to 64bit,
or
do I have to WIPE my HD clean and start fresh for 64bit?

Also does the same apply to Windows XP; do I need to find a 64bit
version
of
XP to utilize the proper memory modules? Where/How can I buy the 64bit
version of XP; does it say it on the box?

Thanks for the reading/postings

 

[Guest]

Well my CPU is a AMD Athlon 5400 ~2.8gig; heres the link where I bought it
from:

http://www.pcboost.com/store/viewitem.asp?idproduct=7956

As far as my Video card goes; I own a GeForce 8800 GTX PCI-E 768mb

And as far as my motherboard goes:

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2579

Section of memory reads:


4 DDR2 DIMM memory slots (supports up to 16GB memory)(Note 1)
Supports dual channel DDR2 800/667/533/400 DIMMs
Supports 1.8V DDR2 DIMMs
(Note 1) Due to the limitation of Windows 32-bit operating system, when more
than 4GB of physical memory is installed, the actual memory available for the
operating system will be less than 4GB; Windows 64-bit operating system
doesn't have such limitation.

Larry

 

[John Barnes]

See
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_609,00.html
so it must have been dropped. You should be using DDR2 800 with timings of
4-4-4-12 to get the best results. Also the nVidia drivers are still being
updated frequently and still have problems associated with them, especially
for the 8xxx series, so keep up with the driver updates on the nVidia site.

 

[Richard G. Harper]

I would definitely go for 3gb of memory, as fast as your system will
support. As for the rest, you've gotten a lot of good advice from the
others in the thread and I'd follow that as well.

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Hmmm I C

Well someone said going from 1-2=big difference in memory but going from
2-4
not much difference? So I am to presume that going from 2-3 not much
difference either?

So then perhaps I should consider upgrading my CPU then?

I currently own a AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 5400 ~2.8gig

I may have said or not but I'm a huge gamer and there some games that
doesnt
seem to run very well, well does but could be better ya know

Larry-

Not exactly. To a point yes, the more memory the better ... however,
recent
testing has shown that a number of games don't like 4gb or more of memory
and when they hit that barrier lots of strange things start happening.

And yes, as Mick pointed out, going from 32-bit to 64-bit means wiping
the
system and starting over. Hopefully all your devices have 64-bit
drivers.
If not, it won't be fun.

Add to that possible application compatibility issues (not all games will
run in 64-bit Windows whether XP or Vista) and maybe you're better off
staying where you are at now.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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So I hear those who are massive gamers; higher the memory the better
the
gaming.

I was thinking of upping my RAM to 4gigs of memory instead of 2.
Though I
read that Vista 32bit will only detect RAM/display up to 3gigs so if I
have
4gigs it will read as 3 only. If I ugprade my Vista to 64bit, then it
will
display correct settings and what not.

I currently have 32bit Vista installed, is it easy to upgrade to 64bit,
or
do I have to WIPE my HD clean and start fresh for 64bit?

Also does the same apply to Windows XP; do I need to find a 64bit
version
of
XP to utilize the proper memory modules? Where/How can I buy the 64bit
version of XP; does it say it on the box?

Thanks for the reading/postings

 

[Guest]

My Memory is 5-5-5-15

http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BL2KIT12864AL1065


Larry

 

[John Barnes]

and the bandwidth? the latency while you may consider 1 point to be not
much, is a 25% difference.

 

[Guest]

How does one find the bandwith?

Larry

and the bandwidth? the latency while you may consider 1 point to be not
much, is a 25% difference.

 

[John Barnes]

Sorry I didn't look at your link. Your bandwidth is 1066 and is higher than
the listed capacity of your MOBO Supports dual channel DDR2 800/667/533/400
DIMMs
per your post. Most times backward compatibility is no problem, and your
memory will definitely aid you with future upgrades. I gave you a newsgroup
that you should visit to find out more about your specific needs and 64-bit
versions of Vista or XP. What rating do you get for your memory in the
Vista experience index.

 

[Guest]

Windows Vista Experience Index:

CPU=5.3
Memory=5.9
Graphics=5.9
Gaming Graphics=5.9
Primary Hard Disk=5.9

Overall Rating=5.3

 

[John Barnes]

Looks great. I would ask in the 64-bit group to see any specific games etc
you have questions about running on 64-bit. I have both XP and Vista64
running and I love them, but then I have been using 64-bit for several years
and have bought all my hardware and software with 64-bit support in mind.