Install Vista SP2 or not?

[Ulfat Khan]

Dear friends I am wondering if intstalling Vista Sp2 to will result in
additional instability, decreased performance and other problems?

Have anyone tried it? Is it available final version of sp2?

 

[Rajoo Sharma]

Dear friends I am wondering if intstalling Vista Sp2 to will result in
additional instability, decreased performance and other problems?

Have anyone tried it? Is it available final version of sp2?

Hello Ulfat,

I found a thre you might find interesting. It does not cover all your
question but some of them. Have a look here:

http://www.hd720i.com/Vista-SP2-big-performance-increase-139603.aspx

Have a nice day/night

 

[Chad Harris]

Dear friends I am wondering if intstalling Vista Sp2 to will result in
additional instability, decreased performance and other problems?

Have anyone tried it? Is it available final version of sp2?

My experience with it was that it added stability and performance. MSFT has
considerable data on this on their sites. If I were you, I'd upgrade to
Windows 7 RC1, which is now available via CPP though from Vista SP1 if
that's what you have. It's superior to Vista SP2 in many ways, and it's a
pretty stable Beta.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/faq.aspx#faq2_4

Upgrading Guide to Windows 7
http://lifehacker.com/5240931/lifehackers-guide-to-upgrading-to-windows-7-rc

Upgrade from Vista to Windows 7
"There's really nothing to this; Windows 7 provides a direct upgrade path to
Windows 7 from Vista, which means that when you install Windows 7, all you
need to do is select the Upgrade option when you run the Windows 7
installation. Note: Windows 7 requires that you've installed Vista Service
Pack 1 in order to upgrade."

MSFT badly wants big numbers on how the upgrade from Windows Vista SP1 is
working for end users, so it's a win-win for you.


Good luck,

CH

 

[JamesATaber]

My experience with it was that it added stability and performance. MSFT
has considerable data on this on their sites. If I were you, I'd
upgrade to Windows 7 RC1, which is now available via CPP though from
Vista SP1 if that's what you have. It's superior to Vista SP2 in many
ways, and it's a pretty stable Beta.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/faq.aspx#faq2_4

Upgrading Guide to Windows 7
http://lifehacker.com/5240931/lifehackers-guide-to-upgrading-to-windows-7-rc


Upgrade from Vista to Windows 7
"There's really nothing to this; Windows 7 provides a direct upgrade
path to Windows 7 from Vista, which means that when you install Windows
7, all you need to do is select the Upgrade option when you run the
Windows 7 installation. Note: Windows 7 requires that you've installed
Vista Service Pack 1 in order to upgrade."

MSFT badly wants big numbers on how the upgrade from Windows Vista SP1
is working for end users, so it's a win-win for you.


Good luck,

CH

But if I upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 isnt that soo my Windows 7
installation will stop working in june 2010 or soo??

Soo i cant really say that is a win win situasjon for me, or is there
something I am missing here?

 

[Kayman]

Dear friends I am wondering if intstalling Vista Sp2 to will result in
additional instability, decreased performance and other problems?

Have anyone tried it? Is it available final version of sp2?

Why Service Packs are Better Than Patches.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/community/columns/security/essays/srvpatch.mspx?mfr=true

 

[Chad Harris]

But if I upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 isnt that soo my Windows 7
installation will stop working in june 2010 or soo??

Soo i cant really say that is a win win situasjon for me, or is there
something I am missing here?

If you upgrade to Win 7 Windows will notify you that the expiration process
is beginning and two weeks later your PC will begin shutting down every two
hours. The Beta expires on August 1, 2009, and bi-hourly shutdowns will
begin July 1, 2009. The RC will expire June 1, 2010, and the bi-hourly
shutdowns will begin on March 1, 2010. In both cases, you'll need to rebuild
your test PC to replace the OS and reinstall all your programs and data.

I recommend that you backup everything that you don't want to lose to media,
periodically and before June 1, 2010. But the upside is you get to
experience the speed and stability it has that Vista doesn't have--bluntly
better CPU efficiency with multiple browser windows open, and CPU intensive
apps running.

When it expires, you've had plenty of time to backup and then you can
install your Vista SP1 or Vista SP2--whichever you have. You also will have
had plenty of time to get to know Win 7 to decide if you want to buy it.

As long as you're backed up, you could go back to Vista at any time,
although I can't see why you'd want to unless and until Win 7 is about to
expire, if you haven't chosen to buy an upgrade by then.

Best,

CH

 

[BigJIm]

Windows 7 RC is pretty good so far IMO better that Vista SP1. It Could be
the next .best OS.
I like the fact they are going to include xp pro in it so there won't be a
problem of
software compatibility. The sad thing is all those computers that were sold
with
Vista on them but the good news for MS is UPGRADE.

 

[Richard Urban]

For the "average" user I would not recommend using Windows 7 RC. Until it is
released for sale it is to be considered a temporary operating system. The
"average" user will plow ahead, regardless of his computer being able to
utilize Windows 7.

The "average" user (I have 3 very adult brothers who are in this group)
would not be able to handle returning their system to either Windows XP,
Windows 2000 or Windows Vista. I can see them all losing their personal
files in trying.

Come June 1, 2010 they would panic and my phone would be ringing off the
hook.

When, and if, the average person decides they want to make an investment,
both time and money, that is the time for them to upgrade to Windows 7 or
buy a new computer that comes with.

Remember, the "average" user (and some very advanced users) know nothing
about backups or imaging techniques - either yours or mine. They are not,
and will not be prepared to possibly roll back or restore their computer
come 06/01/2010.

I have already gotten 2 calls from people who hosed their computers and are
facing big problems.

I am just suggesting that we not use a blanket statement and suggest people
install Windows 7. Doing so may end up being as irresponsible as telling
users to install Linux to solve their problems.

 

[neo [mvp outlook]]

For what its worth and as always your mileage may vary based on system
configuration, but I am very happy with Vista x64 SP2. Yes the final
version is available as I was able to download it via MSDN/TechNet
subscription. Looking at:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd262148.aspx

It doesn't appear that they have made it available yet for general
download/windows update.

 

[Steve]

To respond to your question, I have installed SP2 on a Vista 64 system. It
has been stable with no crashes in 2 weeks. I say give it a try. The version
is an evaluation version build 6002. (it puts a little notice in the lower
right corner of your desktop)

 

[milt]

My experience with it was that it added stability and performance. MSFT
has considerable data on this on their sites. If I were you, I'd
upgrade to Windows 7 RC1, which is now available via CPP though from
Vista SP1 if that's what you have. It's superior to Vista SP2 in many
ways, and it's a pretty stable Beta.

I wouldn't recommend upgrading to Win 7 RC1 since it is still a timed
beta. I believe the date is June 1, 2010. After that, kaboom. You will
have to buy Win7 in order to keep it running. By all means, try out 7,
its rather nice, I'm using it right now but as a dual boot while all my
data I wish to keep resides on my Vista Ultimate boot.

 

[+Bob+]

Dear friends I am wondering if intstalling Vista Sp2 to will result in
additional instability, decreased performance and other problems?

Have anyone tried it? Is it available final version of sp2?

This is very simple: No.

Easy rules to live by with MS OS software:

1. Never install any OS until SP1 is released .
2. Never install and SP until it's been RELEASED for at least 3,
preferably 6 months.

The only way I would alter those rules is if

1. You don't use your computer for business and can afford a few days
down time and/or searching for answers to the problems that arise (EX.
many SP2 related glitches have already been reported here and the
installers are searching for solutions, rolling back, or have issues
rolling back).

OR
2. You have a serious problem and you believe there is a specific fix
in the SP that will solve it. Then sometimes it's worth the risk.

As for installing Win7, you'll note it violates rule 1 above. Don't do
it if you really need the computer for business. See the posts in this
group and others for plenty on win7 problems and note that you can't
downgrade. If you have a test bed or parallel computer, go for it. If
not, stay away.

 

[Chad Harris]

For the "average" user I would not recommend using Windows 7 RC. Until it
is released for sale it is to be considered a temporary operating system.
The "average" user will plow ahead, regardless of his computer being able
to utilize Windows 7.

The "average" user (I have 3 very adult brothers who are in this group)
would not be able to handle returning their system to either Windows XP,
Windows 2000 or Windows Vista. I can see them all losing their personal
files in trying.

Come June 1, 2010 they would panic and my phone would be ringing off the
hook.

When, and if, the average person decides they want to make an investment,
both time and money, that is the time for them to upgrade to Windows 7 or
buy a new computer that comes with.

Remember, the "average" user (and some very advanced users) know nothing
about backups or imaging techniques - either yours or mine. They are not,
and will not be prepared to possibly roll back or restore their computer
come 06/01/2010.

I have already gotten 2 calls from people who hosed their computers and
are facing big problems.

I am just suggesting that we not use a blanket statement and suggest
people install Windows 7. Doing so may end up being as irresponsible as
telling users to install Linux to solve their problems.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience

________________________
I have another slant than Richard. On the plus side for the user, and I've
tested this thoroughly in every build with features that are under the hood
and will be obvious, as has Richard, Win 7 is faster and its most valuable
behavior for the average user although it may not be a charismatic
advertising premise for end users, is that it is considerably more CPU
stable than Vista. That means, more programs can run, including more memory
intensive programs, and more browser windows can be open without memory
leak which is palpable at a certain point in Vista. It has a recovery
mechanism for IE pages that crash, although people getting interim builds
may be getting a more bug prone IE than IE actually has gotten to at this
point, and they aren't allowed to download a "separate IE" right now.

MSFT wants people like Richard's brothers to checkout Win 7, Report Bugs and
Problems and Suggestions about it, and wants badly to know their upgrade
experience from Vista. They have plenty of data from TAP, MVPs and Tech
Beta. The reason they swing wide are to get reaction representing their end
user audiences as well as to get the public aware of the new OS.

MSFT is going out of its way, to me, to make learning materials available
for Win 7, if you compare Vista at this point in time, and even on its
first download page are tabs for backing up, installing etc. that Richard's
brothers could easily follow.

Some links people might find helpful for resources for Win 7 if they are
interested in using RC1 and providing feedback:

Download, FAQ, How to Install, How to Backup
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx

FAQ
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/faq.aspx

Download Now

https://www.microsoft.com/betaexperience/productkeys/win7-rc-32/enus/

Installation Instructions
https://www.microsoft.com/betaexperience/productkeys/win7-rc-32/enus/

Release Notes Win 7 RC1
http://technet.microsoft.com/library/dd367847.aspx?ITPID=carepgm

PKs

https://www.microsoft.com/betaexperience/productkeys/win7-rc-32/enus/

How to Backup a PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/pc-backup.aspx

IT Pro Download and Resources
http://technet.microsoft.com/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx?ITPID=mscomsc

Technet Springboard
http://technet.microsoft.com/windows/dd361745.aspx?ITPID=carepgm

Windows Team Blog
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/MainFeed.aspx

Engineering Win 7 (Blog by Different Teams and Steve Sinofsky)
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/

CH

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Dear friends I am wondering if intstalling Vista Sp2 to will result in
additional instability, decreased performance and other problems?

No, no, and no.

Have anyone tried it?

Yes. It works fine.

Is it available final version of sp2?

Yes.

 

[Mike Brannigan]

Is it available final version of sp2? > > > >


Yes.

Really ? and where can the general public get the SP2 final ?
]

No one specifically mentioned the general public - but there are a huge
number of "general public" that have either MSDN or TechNet Plus
subscriptions so have access to SP2 right now and have had for 5 days.
The rest will get access to it from
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd262148.aspx shortly.

 

[+Bob+]

No, no, and no.

Third no is subjective.

Yes. It works fine.

You forgot "for me" at the end of that.

 

[Daniel Jameson]

Yo, dude,

You should read a little more carefully before you go and get people all
excited:

"Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows Server 2008 and Windows Vista is an
**upcoming** update to Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008."

--
Daniel Jameson
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If the man asks you to hate another,
It is not so you can benefit at the expense of the other,
It is so he can benefit at the expense of you.

 

[MICHAEL]

It woul;d be fairly safe to assume, if somneone is asking if its
avaliable, they do NOT have MSDN or TechNet Plus or they would know
about it, thereefore its safe to say th Final is NOT avaliable for
general downlad.

Mike knows this, he's just displaying his typical doucheness.


-Michael