Install Updates and Reboot Option @ Shutdown??

[Scott Townsend]

When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost never
turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is pretty
useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[MowGreen [MVP]]

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
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Never Forgotten
===============

 

[Scott Townsend]

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[Vincent Xu [MSFT]]

Hi Scott,

Please understand sometimes system ask you to reboot after applied updates
becuase these updates have to replace some system file which is being used.
If updates don't have to replace the locked file, it will not ask you to
reboot. It is by design. However, I do understand your concern that this
function make you convenience, so If you are interested in making your
opinions count in a usability study, we conduct several types of studies on
an ongoing basis from lab research on campus to survey and site visits.
More information here:

http://www.microsoft.com/usability/enroll.mspx

To provide your feedback directly to the product groups:

https://support.microsoft.com/common/survey.aspx?scid=sw;en;1214&showpage=1&
WS=Wish&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.microsoft.com%2fireland%2fcontact%2fa

Thanks for your time and efforts.


Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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From: "Scott Townsend" <[email protected]>
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What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:

When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[MowGreen [MVP]]

Scott,

Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
rebooting.
One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
d/ling them.

HTH,
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:

When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[Vincent Xu [MSFT]]

Hi MowGreen & Scott,

Thanks for using Newsgroup.

I checked the article MowGreen provided.

I agree with MowGreen that the policy "No auto-restart for scheduled
Automatic Updates installations" can be configured to ask to restart the
computer if the update requires restart to complete the patch. Of course,
most updates require restart to complete especially when you try to apply
several updates at one time. I think it works.

Thanks. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns, I'm glad to be
of assistance.


Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 09:36:25 -0700
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Scott,

Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
rebooting.
One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
d/ling them.

HTH,
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:


When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[Scott Townsend]

I guess I'm not being clear.

My systems are not set up to automatically install any updates, just
Download the Updates to be installed at a later time.

So with the Updated Downloaded but not yet installed, I get an option when I
go to shutdown/restart to "Install Updates and Shutdown". Though I almost
always want to restart, not shutdown.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Hi MowGreen & Scott,

Thanks for using Newsgroup.

I checked the article MowGreen provided.

I agree with MowGreen that the policy "No auto-restart for scheduled
Automatic Updates installations" can be configured to ask to restart the
computer if the update requires restart to complete the patch. Of course,
most updates require restart to complete especially when you try to apply
several updates at one time. I think it works.

Thanks. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns, I'm glad to be
of assistance.


Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 09:36:25 -0700
From: "MowGreen [MVP]" <[email protected]>
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Scott,

Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
rebooting.
One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
d/ling them.

HTH,
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Scott Townsend wrote:

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:


When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[Vincent Xu [MSFT]]

Hi Scott,

I know your requirment now.

However, please understand it is a new feature in Windows XP SP2 which
simplifies the management of many clients running Automatic Updates. This
provides an alternative to installing update in response to notification
messages and provides a method to install updates at a time when the
computer is not being used for other activities.

Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2maint.mspx

I do understand your requirment that this function make you convenience, so
If you are interested in making your opinions count in a usability study,
we conduct several types of studies on an ongoing basis from lab research
on campus to survey and site visits.

More information here:
http://www.microsoft.com/usability/enroll.mspx

To provide your feedback directly to the product groups:

<https://support.microsoft.com/common/survey.aspx?scid=sw;en;1214&showpage=1
&WS=Wish&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.microsoft.com%2fireland%2fcontact%2fa>

Thanks for your time and efforts.

Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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From: "Scott Townsend" <[email protected]>
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<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>

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I guess I'm not being clear.

My systems are not set up to automatically install any updates, just
Download the Updates to be installed at a later time.

So with the Updated Downloaded but not yet installed, I get an option when I
go to shutdown/restart to "Install Updates and Shutdown". Though I almost
always want to restart, not shutdown.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Hi MowGreen & Scott,

Thanks for using Newsgroup.

I checked the article MowGreen provided.

I agree with MowGreen that the policy "No auto-restart for scheduled
Automatic Updates installations" can be configured to ask to restart the
computer if the update requires restart to complete the patch. Of course,
most updates require restart to complete especially when you try to apply
several updates at one time. I think it works.

Thanks. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns, I'm glad to be
of assistance.


Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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Scott,

Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
rebooting.
One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
d/ling them.

HTH,
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Scott Townsend wrote:

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending
to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I
ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time
to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come
back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:


When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an
option
from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[GST-GridTech]

HI,

I'm having the SAME problem as Scott...

That is I need "Install updates and Restart" instead of " Install Updates
and SHUTDOWN"

My System seems to be setup the same way as MowGreen....
That is "notify but don't download or install"

I remote (via Dameware and or RealVNC) my LAN (XP's and server 2003) and
was able to have the system "notify" me of UPDATES, I would aply and do a
restart.

I'm NOT sure when this changed, but Install and shut down is not and option
since I remote in.
Is there a way to use RESTART instead of SHUTDOWN to install updates.
the Windows update icon goes away and the only thing I see on updates is
when I go to restart and the option of "install updates and shut down"

I have been installing updates remotly for years and was able to Restart.
Now I need to shutdown and have someone in the office turn the server back
on or leave it off overnight.. not very good..


Thank you

GT

Scott,

Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
rebooting.
One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
d/ling them.

HTH,
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:


When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[Then you're just gonna *love* this months round of updates!]

HI,

I'm having the SAME problem as Scott...

That is I need "Install updates and Restart" instead of " Install Updates
and SHUTDOWN"

My System seems to be setup the same way as MowGreen....
That is "notify but don't download or install"

I remote (via Dameware and or RealVNC) my LAN (XP's and server 2003) and
was able to have the system "notify" me of UPDATES, I would aply and do a
restart.

I'm NOT sure when this changed, but Install and shut down is not and
option
since I remote in.
Is there a way to use RESTART instead of SHUTDOWN to install updates.
the Windows update icon goes away and the only thing I see on updates is
when I go to restart and the option of "install updates and shut down"

I have been installing updates remotly for years and was able to Restart.
Now I need to shutdown and have someone in the office turn the server back
on or leave it off overnight.. not very good..


Thank you

GT

Scott,

Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
rebooting.
One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
d/ling them.

HTH,
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending
to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I
ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time
to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come
back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:


When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an
option from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I
almost never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and
Shutdown is pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[GST-GridTech]

Not sure what you mean.

is this addressed in SP3 or later updates.
Only 1 of my PC's has SP3, the rest are (SP2 with SP2 updates)
is this a known issue/problem that WILL be fixed/corrected???????

Thank you...GT

[Then you're just gonna *love* this months round of updates!]

HI,

I'm having the SAME problem as Scott...

That is I need "Install updates and Restart" instead of " Install Updates
and SHUTDOWN"

My System seems to be setup the same way as MowGreen....
That is "notify but don't download or install"

I remote (via Dameware and or RealVNC) my LAN (XP's and server 2003) and
was able to have the system "notify" me of UPDATES, I would aply and do a
restart.

I'm NOT sure when this changed, but Install and shut down is not and
option
since I remote in.
Is there a way to use RESTART instead of SHUTDOWN to install updates.
the Windows update icon goes away and the only thing I see on updates is
when I go to restart and the option of "install updates and shut down"

I have been installing updates remotly for years and was able to Restart.
Now I need to shutdown and have someone in the office turn the server back
on or leave it off overnight.. not very good..


Thank you

GT

Scott,

Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
rebooting.
One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
d/ling them.

HTH,
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Scott Townsend wrote:

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending
to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I
ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time
to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come
back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:


When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an
option from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I
almost never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and
Shutdown is pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

No, I was referring to the excessive demand on the update servers due to the
large number of August updates:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms09-aug.mspx (just about
all of which will apply to WinXP SP2 and SP3)

Plus http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/973811.mspx
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973811)

Personally, I don't expect there to be any "fix" for WinXP...which entered
Extended Support in Apr-09. Speaking of which, computers running WinXP SP2
will not be offered any further critical security updates and Windows Update
website will not be available if SP3 isn't installed by April 2010.

Not sure what you mean.

is this addressed in SP3 or later updates.
Only 1 of my PC's has SP3, the rest are (SP2 with SP2 updates)
is this a known issue/problem that WILL be fixed/corrected???????

Thank you...GT

[Then you're just gonna *love* this months round of updates!]

HI,

I'm having the SAME problem as Scott...

That is I need "Install updates and Restart" instead of " Install
Updates
and SHUTDOWN"

My System seems to be setup the same way as MowGreen....
That is "notify but don't download or install"

I remote (via Dameware and or RealVNC) my LAN (XP's and server 2003)
and
was able to have the system "notify" me of UPDATES, I would aply and do
a
restart.

I'm NOT sure when this changed, but Install and shut down is not and
option
since I remote in.
Is there a way to use RESTART instead of SHUTDOWN to install updates.
the Windows update icon goes away and the only thing I see on updates is
when I go to restart and the option of "install updates and shut down"

I have been installing updates remotly for years and was able to
Restart.
Now I need to shutdown and have someone in the office turn the server
back
on or leave it off overnight.. not very good..


Thank you

GT


:

Scott,

Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
rebooting.
One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
d/ling them.

HTH,
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Scott Townsend wrote:

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is
pending
to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I
ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time
to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come
back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option
to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:


When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an
option from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot.
I
almost never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and
Shutdown is pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[Harry Johnston [MVP]]

I'm having the SAME problem as Scott...

That is I need "Install updates and Restart" instead of " Install Updates
and SHUTDOWN"

Same solution. Use the Windows Update or Microsoft Update web site.

Harry.

My System seems to be setup the same way as MowGreen....
That is "notify but don't download or install"

I remote (via Dameware and or RealVNC) my LAN (XP's and server 2003) and
was able to have the system "notify" me of UPDATES, I would aply and do a
restart.

I'm NOT sure when this changed, but Install and shut down is not and option
since I remote in.
Is there a way to use RESTART instead of SHUTDOWN to install updates.
the Windows update icon goes away and the only thing I see on updates is
when I go to restart and the option of "install updates and shut down"

I have been installing updates remotly for years and was able to Restart.
Now I need to shutdown and have someone in the office turn the server back
on or leave it off overnight.. not very good..


Thank you

GT

Scott,

Don't ignore the icon. Just click on it and you will be presented with
an option to install the updates. If any reboots are required and you
don't want to reboot at that moment, the icon will remain in systray,
and keep popping up a reminder every 5 minutes that the system needs
rebooting.
One *can* change that 5 minute nag to a more convenient one, but the
reboot nag can only be delayed 24 hours :
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html

BTW, my system is set to " Notify, but don't automatically download or
install ... ". This way one gets to check out the updates prior to
d/ling them.

HTH,
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

What usually happens is that the system has some update that is pending to
be installed. I do not install them automatically.

So its telling me that It has something that it wants to do. But I ignore
the systray icon.

Then my machine gets slow and buggy so I want to reboot. Perfect time to
install the updates... Install then reboot, get cup of coffee and come back.

So I hit the start shutdown, see that there are updates as it wants to
install updates and shut down.

I'd like it to install updates and reboot, even if the updates do not
require a reboot.

Thank you,
Scott<-

Scott,

After an update is installed that requires a reboot just click on the
Automatic Update icon on the system tray. That will give the option to
restart, not shutdown, the system.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

Scott Townsend wrote:


When I click the Start:Shutdown so I can reboot my PC, I'd like an option
from the MS Update to allow be to Install Updates and Reboot. I almost
never turn off my PC, so the option of Install Updates and Shutdown is
pretty useless.

Is there a way to change/add it to Restart instead of shutdown?\

Thanks,
Scott<-

 

[Punk]

I had the same problem... (That is I needed "Install updates and
Restart" instead of "Install Updates and SHUTDOWN").

But you can try force install of updates through windows update option
with iexplorer. (Start --> all programs --> windows update)
You will get the same set of updates, then you click install and all
the updates that are already
downloaded to computer will get "downloaded" again (very fast because
they are already downloaded ...).
Then you will get "restart" option after install. (Installation
Complete ---- Restart now)

And voila, you downloaded updates, installed them and restarted the
computer all remotely through RDP.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Updates are not "downloaded" again.

 

[Harry Johnston [MVP]]

Updates are not "downloaded" again.

No, but WU pretends they are. I think that's all he meant, hence the "air
quotes".

Harry.

 

[Punk]

yep.... i meant that WU pretends that they are "downloaded"... but
instead they are already on computer...