In a fix <g>, Wonderful Icon woes.

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fitwell

I needed to get a "sticky" option for certain windows. PowerPro does
a great job of this. If you set one of the entries to open a program
or window and to be "on top", even if the program normally doesn't do
that, it does after being opened in this way. But when you launch the
program normally, none of this stays. It opens in normal mode after
that.

I needed this functionality, but I'm letting go of PowerPro as I've
grown beyond it (with broadband and the memory leak problems, it
crashes the system after a few hours so too much grief). I've found
AutoIt for scripting functions and TClockEx that give my customizable
date/time _always_ on my taskbar clock and that basically negated the
need for PP.

But I did need to find something that would make a window/program
sticky. I found a freeware that seemed to do the trick called
Wonderful Icon (http://www.thewonderfulicon.com/pages/features.htm).
Boy, what a mistake.

I used it to make a notepad window sticky, and now Notepad windows, no
matter what they are, are _always_ on top. What a nuisance. I've
lived with this for nearly a week now and it's driving me nuts <g>!

Even uninstalled WI didn't help. I had to keep it handy to un-on top
Notepad when it really becomes a nuisance. I'm just glad I didn't do
that to other apps or I'd be really aggravated <g>.

Anyhoo, was wondering if anyone knew 2 things:

1) how to counteract this awful thing and to get Notepad to behave
normally again; and, having learned my lesson,

2) a program that will give this functionality but _without_ the
permanency, like PowerPro does.

Thanks all!
 
J

jo

fitwell said:
But I did need to find something that would make a window/program
sticky. I found a freeware that seemed to do the trick called
Wonderful Icon (http://www.thewonderfulicon.com/pages/features.htm).
Boy, what a mistake.

I used it to make a notepad window sticky, and now Notepad windows, no
matter what they are, are _always_ on top. What a nuisance. I've
lived with this for nearly a week now and it's driving me nuts <g>!

Even uninstalled WI didn't help. I had to keep it handy to un-on top
Notepad when it really becomes a nuisance. I'm just glad I didn't do
that to other apps or I'd be really aggravated <g>.

Anyhoo, was wondering if anyone knew 2 things:

1) how to counteract this awful thing and to get Notepad to behave
normally again; and, having learned my lesson,

2) a program that will give this functionality but _without_ the
permanency, like PowerPro does.

I have no idea what your problem is. I use TWI all the time for this
and other functions. I have tried and failed to reproduce your
problem, setting 'always on top' by toggle on hotkey, or on/off by
hotkeys, or by clicking on a menu item.

My understanding of TWI is that it writes its changes to the registry
when it is launched and, er, unwrites them when closed.
So simply closing TWI would remove 'on top' from Notepad (certainly if
notepad was closed and then reopened...)

Is it possible you set 'always on top' for notepad with a different
app that recognises notepad? Since my understanding is that TWI does
not 'remember' an app that it writes to...

How did you set 'always on top' in TWI?
 
A

Alastair Smeaton

But I did need to find something that would make a window/program
sticky. I found a freeware that seemed to do the trick called
Wonderful Icon (http://www.thewonderfulicon.com/pages/features.htm).
Boy, what a mistake.

I used it to make a notepad window sticky, and now Notepad windows, no
matter what they are, are _always_ on top. What a nuisance. I've
lived with this for nearly a week now and it's driving me nuts <g>!

Even uninstalled WI didn't help. I had to keep it handy to un-on top
Notepad when it really becomes a nuisance. I'm just glad I didn't do
that to other apps or I'd be really aggravated <g>.

Anyhoo, was wondering if anyone knew 2 things:

1) how to counteract this awful thing and to get Notepad to behave
normally again; and, having learned my lesson,

2) a program that will give this functionality but _without_ the
permanency, like PowerPro does.

Thanks all!


I use the WI myself, but don't use this, or most of this programmes
functionality.

There are settings for un-enabling the always on top feature for
particular programmes - have you tried running WI, en-enabling this
feature for notepad, then uninstalling ?

I guess it uses registry keys to enable the feature - which will still
be there when you uninstall, unless you disable them - easiest way
would be thru WI itself ?

You may need to reboot before uninstalling WI, after you un-enable the
feature.

I have also tried to replicate this problem. I started notepad, then
told it thru WI to be always on top - this works.

I then started another instance of notepad, and it did not stay always
on top. Curious.

I used to use another programme which would do this for you - similar
to default window behaviour in some linux desktops - but sorry -
cannot remember what it was.

HTH
 
F

fitwell

I have no idea what your problem is. I use TWI all the time for this
and other functions. I have tried and failed to reproduce your
problem, setting 'always on top' by toggle on hotkey, or on/off by
hotkeys, or by clicking on a menu item.

My understanding of TWI is that it writes its changes to the registry
when it is launched and, er, unwrites them when closed.
So simply closing TWI would remove 'on top' from Notepad (certainly if
notepad was closed and then reopened...)

Is it possible you set 'always on top' for notepad with a different
app that recognises notepad? Since my understanding is that TWI does
not 'remember' an app that it writes to...

How did you set 'always on top' in TWI?

No, I only got as far as TWI. And it keeps the "on top" whether or
not the program is open. After several days, even rebooting doesn't
fix this so the change has been made permanently.

I obviously don't know what caused this.

I'm using Win98SE, perhaps the problem lies therein??
 
J

jo

Alastair said:
There are settings for un-enabling the always on top feature for
particular programmes - have you tried running WI, en-enabling this
feature for notepad, then uninstalling ?

I guess it uses registry keys to enable the feature - which will still
be there when you uninstall, unless you disable them - easiest way
would be thru WI itself ?

Nope. The reg entries are temp and go when the app is closed
You may need to reboot before uninstalling WI, after you un-enable the
feature.
Nope

I have also tried to replicate this problem. I started notepad, then
told it thru WI to be always on top - this works.

I then started another instance of notepad, and it did not stay always
on top. Curious.

TWI only works on a Window it is shown, not on all instances of that
window
 
F

fitwell

I use the WI myself, but don't use this, or most of this programmes
functionality.

There are settings for un-enabling the always on top feature for
particular programmes - have you tried running WI, en-enabling this
feature for notepad, then uninstalling ?

Thanks for pointing this out. There's _definitely_ something wrong,
then. I found a "disable" option and then re-configured the menu
completely. NONE of the new items that I put into the menu are
showing up, and the ones that I removed that were there originally are
still there.

Something's up with this.

I'm going to shut down and reboot and see if that fixes anything
(doubtful, but we'll see).
 
J

jo

fitwell said:
No, I only got as far as TWI. And it keeps the "on top" whether or
not the program is open. After several days, even rebooting doesn't
fix this so the change has been made permanently.

I obviously don't know what caused this.

I actually doubt it is TWI. :-(

TWI does not write permanent changes and does not 'remember' which app
it writes to...
How did you set 'on top' in TWI, and how do you remove it?
I'm using Win98SE, perhaps the problem lies therein??

Nope. 98SE here, and I use TWI on any OS with the same performance on
each.

98, 98SE, ME(*spit*), XP Pro
 
D

dadiOH

fitwell said:
Even uninstalled WI didn't help. I had to keep it handy to un-on
top Notepad when it really becomes a nuisance. I'm just glad I
didn't do that to other apps or I'd be really aggravated <g>.

I wonder what happens if one has two windows open each of which wants to be
on top? And what's so great about being on top anyway? Bottom isn't all
that shabby... :)

--
dadiOH
_____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.0...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
____________________________
 
D

dadiOH

jo said:
Your installation is very naughty and needs a smack.

Have you tried 'scanreg restore' btw?

fdisk/format would probably do better :)

--
dadiOH
_____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.0...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
____________________________
 
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Night2000

No, I only got as far as TWI. And it keeps the "on top" whether or
not the program is open. After several days, even rebooting doesn't
fix this so the change has been made permanently.

I obviously don't know what caused this.

I'm using Win98SE, perhaps the problem lies therein??

Have you tried searching through your registry, and removing all
references to the program? Of course you probably know to backup your
registry before making any changes to it.

Cheers...
 
D

dszady

Night2000 wrote:


Well, FaggAss. Still waiting. Think I'm going to spam you? Only a coward
would do that.
 
D

dszady

Night2000 said:
Wow, you sound perty angry there,
Mr. International Agent of Mystery

http://dszady.spymac.net/blog/

guess I better e-mail you pronto huh?
Before you blow up or something.

Cheers...

You sound interested in me. Do you want **** me? Sounds like it.
I am not interested. Don't want you to cheat the sheep.
Thanks anyway.
BTW Nothing to hide here. What's your excuse you Spamming ****ing coward?

Cheers.
 
N

Night2000

You sound interested in me. Do you want **** me? Sounds like it.
I am not interested. Don't want you to cheat the sheep.
Thanks anyway.
BTW Nothing to hide here. What's your excuse you Spamming ****ing coward?

Cheers.

The point Simpleton is your blog is as empty as your ****in head.
No content in either. Obviously you are stalking me, and it's pretty
pathetic. Prove your not a coward and remove the

X-No-Archive: Yes

Cheers...
 
R

REM

Definitely, now that I see it's not working as it should. I'll give
this a try.

I'm just curious, did you have any luck? I forgot to mention that I usually run
the program while Total Uninstall is still running to make sure it gets an idea
of all reg entries and file association changes, etc. that are made.
 

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