imported art with transparent background

[Guest]

Hi

I am having a similar problem. I am trying to import high res logo art for a client presentation that has a transparent background. In the past, I have saved out a .tif with an alpha channel which has the logo colors in layers underneath the logo art to eliminate edge pixel display, but with newer versions of ppt, the .tif with alpha is no longer supported. I have since tried .gif files which do not always work, and also the .png format, which works okay in ppt 2000, but not in ppt 2002. The .png format does not print well in grayscale either. Does anyone have a uniform means of saving out art from photoshop with a transparency? It needs to look good on screen and also printed, and work in all versions of powerpoint, which never seems to happen. Dropping out the background from within powerpoint leaves edge pixesl in BW prints. MS help could not offer a solution other than to "get rid of the transparency". Would much appreciate your suggestions!!

 

[Echo S]

There's an issue with transparency and PPT 2002. I believe it was supposed
to have been corrected with SP-2.
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00323.htm has specifics.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the tip - I don't know that that will work as I cannot recommend that patch to my client - they have too many imported charts that need to maintain links. Making the background transparent within ppt leaves edge pixels and doesn't print well in black and white. I will continue to research this issue and thank you so much for getting back to me!

 

[Geetesh Bajaj]

Newer versions import transparency as well - does this help:

http://www.indezine.com/products/photoshop/exporttiffwithchannel.html


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Geetesh Bajaj, Microsoft PowerPoint MVP
http://www.indezine.com/
http://www.powerpointed.com/
PowerPoint Blog at http://www.indezine.com/blog/

Hi,

I am having a similar problem. I am trying to import high res logo art for

a client presentation that has a transparent background. In the past, I have
saved out a .tif with an alpha channel which has the logo colors in layers
underneath the logo art to eliminate edge pixel display, but with newer
versions of ppt, the .tif with alpha is no longer supported. I have since
tried .gif files which do not always work, and also the .png format, which
works okay in ppt 2000, but not in ppt 2002. The .png format does not print
well in grayscale either. Does anyone have a uniform means of saving out art
from photoshop with a transparency? It needs to look good on screen and also
printed, and work in all versions of powerpoint, which never seems to
happen. Dropping out the background from within powerpoint leaves edge
pixesl in BW prints. MS help could not offer a solution other than to "get
rid of the transparency". Would much appreciate your suggestions!!

 

[Guest]

Thanks Geetesh,

I used to use the .tif file format but it comes in with a solid background even when saved with an alpha channel. What I used to do was put a layer with the same color fill as the logo art underneath the logo art so that the edge pixels would be the same color when exported as a .tif. What powerpoint is doing is bringing the logo art in with a white background rather than with no background. when I make the background transparent in powerpoint, I get the white edge pixels back. This did not use to be the case and I moved on to .png format, which does not print correctly in grayscale mode and which doesn't keep the transparency for a larger image space. Using the transparency tool in powerpoint is a very unsatisfying option as the print and screen versions look terrible (edge pixels). With each powerpoint "upgrade" comes a new set of problems. I will keep troubleshooting this and thanks very much for your help and for the link to your site, very helpful!

 

[John Langhans [MSFT]]

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Hello,

It appears that PowerPoint (which is not an image editing package) does not
have the degree of control (or options) for how to handle transparency in
inserted images (or how to apply transparency within PowerPoint) that you
are looking for.

If you (or anyone else reading this message) think that it's important that
PowerPoint provide some additional functionality in this area, don't forget
to send your feedback (in YOUR OWN WORDS, please) to Microsoft at:

http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp

As with all product suggestions, it's important that you not just state
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that are most important to our customers so take the extra time to state
your case as clearly and completely as possible.

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[Geetesh Bajaj]

Are you saying you get TIFF images that are alpha channel equipped with a
solid background in PowerPoint?

In the tutorial link I provided, I was able to even manage import of varying
levels of transaprency into PowerPoint - you might want to follow these
step-by-step:

http://www.indezine.com/products/photoshop/exporttiffwithchannel.html


--
Geetesh Bajaj, Microsoft PowerPoint MVP
http://www.indezine.com/
http://www.powerpointed.com/
PowerPoint Blog at http://www.indezine.com/blog/

Thanks Geetesh,

I used to use the .tif file format but it comes in with a solid background

even when saved with an alpha channel. What I used to do was put a layer
with the same color fill as the logo art underneath the logo art so that the
edge pixels would be the same color when exported as a .tif. What powerpoint
is doing is bringing the logo art in with a white background rather than
with no background. when I make the background transparent in powerpoint, I
get the white edge pixels back. This did not use to be the case and I moved
on to .png format, which does not print correctly in grayscale mode and
which doesn't keep the transparency for a larger image space. Using the
transparency tool in powerpoint is a very unsatisfying option as the print
and screen versions look terrible (edge pixels). With each powerpoint
"upgrade" comes a new set of problems. I will keep troubleshooting this and
thanks very much for your help and for the link to your site, very helpful!

 

[Guest]

Geetesh

Thanks so much for keeping up with this thread. I know what you are talking about and USED to do my .tifs the same way however I can only import them in older versions of powerpoint with the transparency. I am using PowerPoint on the mac for OS X and was able to insert them with the transparency in ppt 98 and also 2001, but not in the newer versions. It comes in with a solid background. That said, they keep the transparency on the PC in powerpoint 2000 and 2002 when they are inserted at a small size, however the large full page logo comes out black and gray. I am going to pursue this with the developers as there shuold be one file format that works consistently instead of having to insert art of different formats for the same purpose. Thank you VERY MUCH for your help and I have bookmarked your site for future reference. best michelle