ie7 on windows 2000

[JM]

In addtion to what the other posters had to say, JM, why would any
one in their right mind want to use Internet Explorer (any version!)
except for Windows Update ? I see you're using thunderbird for email,
and you mentionned your being a Firefox user as well : what could IE7
bring you *if* it was possible to run it on 2k ?

If what you want is tabbed browsing and you're somehow not fully
pleased with Firefox, you've got other choices (Opera for one, and I
think, Maxthon or whatever it's called now if you really want to
stick with the MSIE engine)

How did you find out I was using Thunderbird for email?

I don't really use Internet Explorer, I just like to experiment. IE7 on
win2000 couldn't really bring me anything but a chance to tell Microsoft
that they are wrong in saying that ie7 doesn't work on win2000.

I am fully pleased with firefox except for the amount of memory it can
take up. I didn't really like Opera, I still use Netscape, and the
Safari browser from Apple runs on 2000, even though they say it only
works on xp or vista.
Thanks,
JM

 

[Bob I]

How did you find out I was using Thunderbird for email?

I don't really use Internet Explorer, I just like to experiment. IE7 on
win2000 couldn't really bring me anything but a chance to tell Microsoft
that they are wrong in saying that ie7 doesn't work on win2000.

So what if you sorta make it open, it's NOT supported, and they don't
care, and you impress no one.

 

[JM]

So what if you sorta make it open, it's NOT supported, and they don't
care, and you impress no one.

Whether Microsoft supports what I do or not doesn't matter to me and if
they don't care then they have an attitude problem. And you're wrong in
saying I would impress no one because I know people who would be impressed.
JM

 

[Sid Elbow]

How did you find out I was using Thunderbird for email?

I suspect he meant you were using Thunderbird as a newsreader (that's
contained in your message header).

Either that or he assumed that if you were using it as a newsreader you
would automatically be using it as an email client too. Not a very good
assumption - I don't.

 

[Bob I]

Whether Microsoft supports what I do or not doesn't matter to me and if
they don't care then they have an attitude problem. And you're wrong in
saying I would impress no one because I know people who would be impressed.
JM

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

 

[JM]

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

Wasn't planning on it.
JM

 

[JM]

I suspect he meant you were using Thunderbird as a newsreader (that's
contained in your message header).

Either that or he assumed that if you were using it as a newsreader you
would automatically be using it as an email client too. Not a very good
assumption - I don't.

Actually I just remembered that there is this add-on for thunderbird
called "display mail user agent" and it shows what program was used to
write the selected message(email or newsgroup). I use it and he probably
does too. Are you using thunderbird too? - that's what the add-on says
you're using, it would be nice to know if the extension is accurate.
Thanks,
JM

 

[Sid Elbow]

Actually I just remembered that there is this add-on for thunderbird
called "display mail user agent" and it shows what program was used to
write the selected message(email or newsgroup). I use it and he probably
does too. Are you using thunderbird too? - that's what the add-on says
you're using, it would be nice to know if the extension is accurate.

Why do you need an add-on? The normal nntp message header tells you what
user-agent you are using. just go to View>Headers>All.

Yes I'm using Thunderbird - for newsgroups but not for email.

 

[JM]

Why do you need an add-on? The normal nntp message header tells you what
user-agent you are using. just go to View>Headers>All.

Thanks for the tip. It just takes up a lot of space when you do it that
way - the add-on just shows an icon in the right part of the normal view
so it helps reduce the space taken up - you should try it.

Yes I'm using Thunderbird - for newsgroups but not for email.

What program could be better for email than Thunderbird?
JM

 

[Sid Elbow]

Thanks for the tip. It just takes up a lot of space when you do it that
way - the add-on just shows an icon in the right part of the normal view
so it helps reduce the space taken up - you should try it.

Not really, I only find a need to look at headers rarely so the regular
way is fine. I don't have it on by default - just take a quick peek when
I want to.

Plus, although the Thunderbird/Firefox concept of "community-produced"
add-ons sounds great in principal, the fact that they work with today's
Firefox/Thunderbird is no guarantee they will work with the version
released tomorrow. If you are lucky they may be updated sometime but
again there is no guarantee. Many times it's a one-shot effort on the
part of the writer.

It seems with every new release of either program (which are not
infrequent), one or more of my existing add-ons breaks, to the point
where I've really given up seeking new add-ons. Nice idea but ...

What program could be better for email than Thunderbird?

I suspect if you ask 10 people, you'll get 10 different answers.

Thunderbird is relatively basic both as a newsreader and as an email
client. In fact, that's why I like it as a newsreader ... some of the
others out there (such as XNews et al), while being terrifically
versatile, have become way too complex for my needs. Even then, it's
filtering is pretty inadequate but I have my own local news-server
(Hamster) which gives me much better filtering options at that level.

For an email client, I've used Eudora in its various releases for more
than 12 years, I'm happy with it and Thunderbird didn't offer anything
more (rather less actually - like I say, it's pretty basic).

..... and now back to our regular programming.

 

[JM]

Plus, although the Thunderbird/Firefox concept of "community-produced"
add-ons sounds great in principal, the fact that they work with today's
Firefox/Thunderbird is no guarantee they will work with the version
released tomorrow. If you are lucky they may be updated sometime but
again there is no guarantee. Many times it's a one-shot effort on the
part of the writer.

It seems with every new release of either program (which are not
infrequent), one or more of my existing add-ons breaks, to the point
where I've really given up seeking new add-ons. Nice idea but ...

Every time I have updated thunderbird the add-on has always worked fine,
but like you said, there is no guarantee it will always work.
JM

 

[Steph]

Steph wrote:

How did you find out I was using Thunderbird for email?

At least you are using it for net news; your headers betrayed you, as
noted by others.

I don't really use Internet Explorer, I just like to experiment.
IE7 on win2000 couldn't really bring me anything but a chance to
tell Microsoft that they are wrong in saying that ie7 doesn't work
on win2000.

It's not designed to work, or designed not to work, in Win 2k :
others have tried hard, including people who /can/ program and know
how to lookup email & news headers :=) I strongly suggest you forget
that particular fancy.

I am fully pleased with firefox except for the amount of memory it
can take up. I didn't really like Opera, I still use Netscape, and
the Safari browser from Apple runs on 2000, even though they say
it only works on xp or vista.
Thanks,

Y.W.