IE7 in Vista

A

Andy

I really like IE7 - except for the only thing that gets to me are the back
and forward buttons up the top left (I wish they could be moved to another
place instead of being tucked away up there- or can they ?) and the fact you
cannot attach text labels to them if you wished to. I want to also move the
http address bar but I cannot seem to and I have the toolbars unlocked.

Any ideas?
 
E

Erik Funkenbusch

I really like IE7 - except for the only thing that gets to me are the back
and forward buttons up the top left (I wish they could be moved to another
place instead of being tucked away up there- or can they ?) and the fact you
cannot attach text labels to them if you wished to. I want to also move the
http address bar but I cannot seem to and I have the toolbars unlocked.

Any ideas?
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I never really use the back and forward buttons anymore, I have them on my
mouse. It really is far more convenient that way.

However, the answer to your questions are no. But there's a good reason.
The UI was designed to prevent phishing attacks whereby the hide or move
toolbars and replace them with their own that allows them to simulate
looking like you're at a legitimate site.

Sadly, the customizability we used to have is part of the reason for the
phishing pandemic.
 
A

Andy

Andy said:
I really like IE7 - except for the only thing that gets to me are the back
and forward buttons up the top left (I wish they could be moved to another
place instead of being tucked away up there- or can they ?) and the fact
you cannot attach text labels to them if you wished to. I want to also
move the http address bar but I cannot seem to and I have the toolbars
unlocked.

Any ideas?
Click to expand...

I have just this minute downloaded Firefox with Google toolbar. It may be
early days but I actually think I prefer Firefox over IE7 ! - at least you
can move the buttons around on the toolbar and add text to them.
 
S

Scott

I really like IE7 - except for the only thing that gets to me are the back
and forward buttons up the top left (I wish they could be moved to another
place instead of being tucked away up there- or can they ?) and the fact you
cannot attach text labels to them if you wished to. I want to also move the
http address bar but I cannot seem to and I have the toolbars unlocked.
Click to expand...

http://getfirefox.com
 
S

Saucy

Yes, you can add text labels to the IE7 toolbar buttons - look again. And
you add/remove buttons and use small or large icons.

At first the IE7 seemed odd to me .. and I wanted to re-arrange the bars and
so on .. but as you start using it grows on you and the location (and level
of 'impact') of each button is actually well thought out. The toolbars are
customizable - except that the Back and Forward buttons are fixed (to guard
against phishing and other tricks). As well, there's Quicktabs which enable
you to have a look at all the tabs' contents at once. And if you have a
mouse with a middle button, the tabs become positively easy to work with.
You can middle-button click a link and it opens in a new tab ..
middle-button click anywhere on a tab and it closes .. middle-button click
on any blank space to the right of the tabs and a new tab opens - it's
great.

I'd avoid FireFox - it's a disaster waiting to happen. It's not all its
promoters cut it out to be - especially securtiy wise.
 
S

Scott

I'd avoid FireFox - it's a disaster waiting to happen. It's not all its
promoters cut it out to be - especially securtiy wise.
Click to expand...

Nothing is bug-proof. I don't use Firefox for the security. I use it
for the kick-ass features. IE 7 is 10X better than IE 6, but Firefox
was already 50X better than IE 6 to begin with.

http://addons.mozilla.org

Generated: Fri Feb 16 2007 08:41:00 GMT-0700 (US Mountain Standard
Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US;
rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1
Build ID: 2006120418

Enabled Extensions: [40]
- Adblock Filterset.G Updater 0.3.0.5: http://www.pierceive.com/ -
Synchronizes Adblock with Filterset.G
- Adblock Plus 0.7.2.4: http://adblockplus.org/ - Ads were yesterday!
- Cert Viewer Plus 1.1: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1964/ -
Enhancements to the certificate viewer (display in PEM format, export
to file)
- Context Search 0.4.1: http://www.cusser.net - Expands the context
menu's 'Search for' item into a list of search engines.
- CustomizeGoogle 0.55: http://www.customizegoogle.com/ - Enhance
Google search results and remove ads and spam.
- deskCut 0.5.0.5: http://deskcut.mozdev.org - Create desktop
shortcuts from the context-menu. Windows and Linux (KDE/GNOME)
supported.
- DictionarySearch 2.0: http://dictionarysearch.mozdev.org/ - Looks up
selected word in an online dictionary
- Digger 2.0: http://clav.mozdev.org/ - Dig through URLs
- DOM Inspector 1.8.1.1: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/ -
Inspects the structure and properties of a window and its contents.
- DownThemAll! 0.9.9.7: http://www.downthemall.net - The mass
downloader for Firefox.
- Flashblock 1.5.2: http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ - Replaces Flash
objects with a button you can click to view them.
- FlashGot 0.5.97.03: http://flashgot.net - Enables single and massive
("all" and "selection") downloads using the most popular external
download managers for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and FreeBSD (dozens
currently supported, see Extension's Home Page for details). FlashGot
offers also a Build Gallery functionality which helps to synthetize
full media galleries in one page from serial contents originally
scattered on several pages, for easy and fast "download all".
- Google Browser Sync 1.3.20061031.0:
http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ - Synchronize
settings between browsers
- Google Notebook 1.0.0.14: http://www.google.com/notebook - Allows
notetaking while browsing
- Google Toolbar for Firefox 3.0.20070201W: http://www.google.com/ -
Take the power of Google with you anywhere on the Web!
- Greasemonkey 0.6.7.20070131.0: http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/ - A
User Script Manager for Firefox
- HostIP.info Geolocation Plugin 0.4.1: http://www.hostip.info -
Displays Geolocation information for a website using hostip.info data.
- IE Tab 1.3.1.20070126: http://ietab.mozdev.org/ - Enables you to use
the embedded IE engine within Mozilla/Firefox.
- IE View 1.3.2: http://ieview.mozdev.org/ - Open pages in IE via
Firefox menus
- InfoLister 0.9f: http://mozilla.doslash.org/infolister - Lists
installed extensions and themes
- Linkification 1.3.3: http://yellow5.us/firefox/linkification/ -
Converts text links into genuine, clickable links.
- M3U Ripper 1.4:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Firefox M3U Ripper - Allows you to
rip the contents of an playlist file link.
- MetaMirrors 1.2: http://prog.infosnel.nl/metalinks/ - MetaMirrors
interface for Firefox
- Mouse Gestures 1.5.2: http://www.mousegestures.org/ - Allows you to
execute common commands using mouse gestures.
- MR Tech Local Install 5.3.2.3:
http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/local_install/ - Local Install power
tools for all users. (en-US)
- OperaView 0.6: http://operaview.mozdev.org/ - Open pages in Opera
from Firefox, Mozilla, Flock and Netscape 8 context menus.
- Paste and Go 2 0.8: http://pasteandgo2.mozdev.org/ - Paste Text and
Load/Search It Immediately
- PasteIP 1.7: http://pasteip.mozdev.org/ - Allows you to paste your
IP address or User-Agent string into a textbox or message window.
- PDF Download 0.7.8: http://www.pdfdownload.org - Allows to choose
what you want to do with a PDF file: download it, view it with an
external viewer or view it as HTML!
- Remember Mismatched Domains 1.3.3: http://www.andrewlucking.com -
Adds a 'don't ask me again' option to the Domain Name Mismatch
Security Error window.
- Save Image in Folder 1.1.1: http://mozext.achimonline.de - Easily
save images in personally customized folders.
- Save Link in Folder 1.3.1: http://mozext.achimonline.de - Easily
save links in personally customized folders.
- Stylish 0.4: http://userstyles.org/stylish/ - Customize the look of
websites and of the user interface.
- Super DragAndGo 0.2.6: http://morphis.eu.org/ - Drag a link or
anything like a uri (e.g. "abc.com" ), and throw it to anywhere blank
on the webpage to open the it in a new tab.
- Talkback 2.0.0.1: http://talkback.mozilla.org/ - Sends information
about program crashes to Mozilla.
- Text Complete 0.9.9.2: http://www.cfavatar.com/textComplete.cfm -
Adds shortcuts / autocomplete functionality to text fields.
- TinyUrl Creator 1.0.4: http://mozmonkey.com/ - Convenient tool to
create small url redirects from longer ones.
- Toolbar Buttons 0.3.0.1: http://tbutton.mozdev.org/ - Adds toolbar
buttons.
- Web Developer 1.1.3: http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/ -
Adds a menu and a toolbar with various web developer tools.
- Yahoo! Toolbar 1.4.0.20070112: http://toolbar.yahoo.com - Get more
out of Yahoo! and the web!

Total Extensions: 40
 
S

Scott

No, you wouldn't would you? No one can.
Click to expand...

I never really fell for Mozilla's hype re security. But they do have
a better track record when it comes to fixes (at least in terms of
response time).

All things being equal secrity-wise, Firefox kick's IE's butt. I
can'ty live without my extensions (addons). :)

Since I also spend a lot of time in Linux it's also nice to easily
sync my bookmarks and settings as Firefox is cross-platform.
 
S

Saucy

Scott said:
All things being equal secrity-wise, Firefox kick's IE's butt. I
can'ty live without my extensions (addons). :)
Click to expand...

All things are not equal and IE7 kicks FF's butt both in features and in
security.
 
G

Guest

Scott,

After briefly using FF and exploring the nightly-builds, cannot imagine why
an intelligent human would ever consider attempting to rely on FF; a browser
that’s over-filled with security holes.

Approximately two months ago, FF was determined to be such an internal
failure, with security breaches, it was determined that FF could never be
relied on for security secondary to the enormous open source nightly-builds.

As of three days ago, 27% of FF security patches are provided by
individuals, at this writing, only an active imagination could guess the
current percentage of security patches provided by individuals, something
about that open source that keeps the nightly-build people forever very busy.

Other than the security failures within FF, secondary to open source code
nightly-builds, what else could ever be expected from FF than perpetual
security leaks?

The chief developers for IE 7 have earned PhDs in computer science.

If you are seeking a browser that is little more than a game and toy, choose
FF.

If you are seeking a browser for security and performance, choose IE 7.


Serious question: How many times does it require re-reading the same Post?
Do you read a book from the page bottom up, or, read a book from the page top
down?
 
A

Andy

Saucy said:
Yes, you can add text labels to the IE7 toolbar buttons - look again. And
you add/remove buttons and use small or large icons.

At first the IE7 seemed odd to me .. and I wanted to re-arrange the bars
and so on .. but as you start using it grows on you and the location (and
level of 'impact') of each button is actually well thought out. The
toolbars are customizable - except that the Back and Forward buttons are
fixed (to guard against phishing and other tricks). As well, there's
Quicktabs which enable you to have a look at all the tabs' contents at
once. And if you have a mouse with a middle button, the tabs become
positively easy to work with. You can middle-button click a link and it
opens in a new tab .. middle-button click anywhere on a tab and it closes
.. middle-button click on any blank space to the right of the tabs and a
new tab opens - it's great.

I'd avoid FireFox - it's a disaster waiting to happen. It's not all its
promoters cut it out to be - especially securtiy wise.
Click to expand...

cant wait for the security patches/fixes/critical updates to come out soon
for IE7 - that will quash that thing that IE7 is secure!
 
S

Saucy

Andy said:
-chop- cant wait for the security patches/fixes/critical updates to come
out soon for IE7 - that will quash that thing that IE7 is secure!
Click to expand...

Notice though you are waiting. IE7's been out for quite some time and
there's been no "flood" of exploits revealed and patches issued. I would say
the patching will only be occasional and only for more obscure type
exploits. The newer unproven FF, on the other hand, will continue to be
shown to have glaring gaping exploits of more basic nature such as have been
occuring with it. FF is the fool's gold of browsing security.
 
J

John C Harris

I love this stuff, FF and MAC people espounding on the security of their
systems and trashing MS products. Any logical person would discover that the
reason MS is hacked more than the others is because it is more pervasive in
society than the others. If the people out there with nothing better to do
than hack systems ever turned their attention to MAC and FF those systems
would be found vulnerable as well.
 
A

Andy

Saucy said:
All things are not equal and IE7 kicks FF's butt both in features and in
security.
Click to expand...

Just been watching Graham Norton's chat show on BBC2 - what browser was he
using there?....... No less than Mozilla Firefox. Good on-ya.
 

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