IE6 IE7 and FireFox

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I have just upgraded my IE6 to IE7 beta 2, I have also just installed the
horrible FireFox. Both IE versions seem to take alot more system memory when
running. To demonstrate, I open two windows of IE6 two tabs of IE7 and two
tabs of FireFox, pointed one of each at microsoft.com and one of each at
google.com. The results suprised me.
IE7 was using something like 64mb of ram
FireFox using around 25mb ram
IE6 using 19mb + 29mb

Now Im a huge microsoft fan, and think they've done a wonderfull job in the
past, but is it too much to ask theat they just try to use a little less ram
when browsing. Save it for the big stuff like virtual machines, encoding
videos and RamDisks.

This FireFox seems to be quite popular with people who seem to think
Microsoft should conform to somelses rules (why would they do that?), but
sort of lacks a few functions that I would call necessary, important, and
perhaps even critical.
1, when I goto view the source, that is really just what I am doing...
viewing the source, I cant edit it even if the page Im looking at is on my
hard disk.
2, when I want to download something, it starts its cute wee download box,
which could be great if they did it right, and starts downloading to my
default download directory. Nowhere along the way am I asked "Where do you
want me to put this file?"
3, I cant send a webpage to my friend, I can send them a link, but not a
full page with pictures and button and an interface and scripts and bells and
whistles, just one line of text starting with http:// will do for FireFox
thankyou.

FireFox has done a good job of copying IE6's layout, the menus buttons are
all in pretty much the same place, which I guess will give new converts to
the product a sense of familiarity, but when even Microsoft moves onto
something new for IE7, where does that leave FireFox? They could a, keep the
same layout (copying Microsoft) b, copy IE7's layout (copying Microsoft) or
c, design a new interface alltogether (now your talking)

We're all no doubt familiar with the taskbar autohide, why dont any of these
browsers have this for their toolbars at the top of their pages? Big ups to
Microsofts IE7 with rightclick Print Preview option. These are the sort of
things I like to see, something old (we've all seen it before) something new
(wasnt there in IE6) something borrowed (borrowed it from Microsoft Office I
guess) something blue (cant change the colors of it)

Also Im not too happy about the loss of integration in IE7 from an explorer
file browser. It used to be in IE6 that i could type in a folder path in the
address bar, and voila my internet browser was now the same as "My Computer",
but now a new window (not a tab) appears so I still have where I was, and
where I now want to be. Sure this could be great if I accidently typed in
'c:\documents and settings\administrator' and then pushed enter, but this
doesnt happen too often. But even in that case we still had the back button.


Probably sounds like Im just having a go at Microsoft, but that is not the
case. I think IE6 was a great product which integrated into windows very
well. However it appears this IE7 tries to do a few FireFox things (why?),
does a good job at it (lets me edit HTML when I view the source of a page)
but is taking up more resources than before and makes up for it with a new
icon.

How could Microsoft remedy this???
Stick to what you guys are good at, not copying your competition, but
innovating and making your own ideas, which are normally better (with the
exception of talking paperclips in Microsoft Office)

Thanks for reading my post, dont let my views or opinions alter yours in any
way. Long live IE6 I guess.
 
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C A Upsdell

DamBogan said:
This FireFox seems to be quite popular with people who seem to think
Microsoft should conform to somelses rules (why would they do that?)

Re conformance to the rules, I assume you meant to say "someone else's
rules". First, the standards (rules) are established by the W3C, of
which Microsoft is a key member, and Microsoft has done a lot to help
define many of the standards, so the 'rules' can hardly be said to be
someone else's. Second, the standards are intended to help make
different browsers render pages consistently, and how is that
objectionable?. And third, if you don't like the standards, you will
hate IE7, because Microsoft has much improved its conformance with the
rules.
but sort of lacks a few functions that I would call necessary, important, and
perhaps even critical.
1, when I goto view the source, that is really just what I am doing...
viewing the source, I cant edit it even if the page Im looking at is on my
hard disk.

Which has nothing to do with Firefox.
2, when I want to download something, it starts its cute wee download box,
which could be great if they did it right, and starts downloading to my
default download directory. Nowhere along the way am I asked "Where do you
want me to put this file?"

It works for me just fine. Take a little closer look at how you use FF,
and what options it offers.
3, I cant send a webpage to my friend, I can send them a link, but not a
full page with pictures and button and an interface and scripts and bells and
whistles, just one line of text starting with http:// will do for FireFox
thankyou.

I think that this is something being discussed for the future. Rome was
not built in a day, and neither is a browser.
FireFox has done a good job of copying IE6's layout, the menus buttons are
all in pretty much the same place, which I guess will give new converts to
the product a sense of familiarity, but when even Microsoft moves onto
something new for IE7, where does that leave FireFox?

Firefox's similarity to IE was exists to make it easier for people to
migrate to it from IE. Other related browsers, e.g. Mozilla, are very
different, even though they render pages the same. As for what IE7 is
doing, well, a lot of the improvements are being borrowed from other
browsers, including Firefox, and because Firefox is updated much more
often than IE, if a really great feature appears in IE7, Firefox will be
able to quickly adopt it.
 

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