IE and Slimbrowser?

[Steven O.]

I run a Win2K system, and I read that Internet Explorer is very open
to security risks on Win2K. Therefore (I'm told), I should use
alternate browers such as Mozilla or others.

I've found a browser I really like, Slimbrowser, especially the way it
handles bookmarks. My question, though, is whether this is really a
separate browser. From some of it's behaviors, it seems like
Slimbrowser might really be some kind of overlay over Internet
Explorer. So my question is, am I really getting away from the risks
of IE by using Slimbrowser?

Thanks in advance for all replies.

Steve O.


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[Rod]

From some of it's behaviors, it seems like
Slimbrowser might really be some kind of overlay over Internet
Explorer.

It is.

So my question is, am I really getting away from the risks
of IE by using Slimbrowser?
No


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That's spam

 

[FYIS.org/estore]

I run a Win2K system, and I read that Internet Explorer is very open
to security risks on Win2K. Therefore (I'm told), I should use
alternate browers such as Mozilla or others.

Hogwash!
MSIE still has a 90±% market share.
If all those stories being spread by the 10% minority users were true, MS
would be broke by now and
all would be on browsers other than MSIE.
Keep your system updated with Critical Windows Updates and you'll have no
problem.

DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org

 

[BillR]

SlimBrowser is just a an IE shell (albeit a nice one). Broadly
speaking, it is neither more nor less secure than IE.

From the SlimBrowser FAQ. "SlimBrowser is based on Internet Explorer

rendering engine. So it has the same level of security as the version
of IE installed on your system."

 

[Eli Coten]

If you goto www.w3schools.com and look on their website you will see a
percentage of internet users and what browser they use. You will find that
Mozilla based browsers are becoming more popular all the time, although the
majority of Internet Users still use IE.

Eli

 

[Laurent Herve]

If you goto www.w3schools.com and look on their website you will see a
percentage of internet users and what browser they use. You will find that
Mozilla based browsers are becoming more popular all the time, although the
majority of Internet Users still use IE.

Eli

All wrong : SlimBrowser is not just an IE shell or an IE overlay,
and the proove is that i have installed it on a machine WITHOUT
IE : So if it would have been just an overlay, it shouldn't have work
without IE, but it does ! That means only that there are different
flavours of "IE based browsers". The only thing you will miss
when you remove IE is the hability to view png.

When i go on risky sites, i allways use a Mozilla browser, it's
a habit. In this way i don't risk an infection even if a new
virus is released or if i forgot to instal the sereval security patches
which are now grow as heavy as the browser itself

laurent

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

All wrong : SlimBrowser is not just an IE shell or an IE overlay,
and the proove is that i have installed it on a machine WITHOUT
IE : So if it would have been just an overlay, it shouldn't have work
without IE, but it does ! That means only that there are different
flavours of "IE based browsers". The only thing you will miss
when you remove IE is the hability to view png.

When i go on risky sites, i allways use a Mozilla browser, it's
a habit. In this way i don't risk an infection even if a new
virus is released or if i forgot to instal the sereval security patches
which are now grow as heavy as the browser itself

laurent

Actually it is a shell. It's simply using the same DLL's that IEXPLORE.EXE
would use. These DLL's are there regardless of wether or not IEXPLORE.EXE
is on your system.

 

[Laurent Herve]

Actually it is a shell. It's simply using the same DLL's that IEXPLORE.EXE
would use. These DLL's are there regardless of wether or not IEXPLORE.EXE
is on your system.

But i removed IE with :

IEradicator 2001
----------------------------------------------------------------
OCTOBER 2003
(c) litePC.com, LitePC Technologies Pty Ltd 1999-2003 http:\\www.litePC.com

________________________________________________

It is supposed to remove every thing, not just IEXPLORER.EXE,
at least i thought that.

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

But i removed IE with :

IEradicator 2001
----------------------------------------------------------------
OCTOBER 2003
(c) litePC.com, LitePC Technologies Pty Ltd 1999-2003
http:\\www.litePC.com

________________________________________________

It is supposed to remove every thing, not just IEXPLORER.EXE,
at least i thought that.

Various browsers out there and Outlook Express use Microsoft's rendering
engine. Some of the browsers are Avant, GreenBrowser, Maxthon and
SlimBrowser.

You apparently didn't read the release notes for IEradicator:

The removal process eliminates 99% of Internet Explorer's files and
registry keys to clear approximately 30MB of disk space. The remaining 1%
is left behind to maintain compatibility with programs that use the MS
HTML layout engine (e.g. Outlook Express).

Source <http://www.litepc.com/release_notes/ieradicator.txt>

 

[Laurent Herve]

Various browsers out there and Outlook Express use Microsoft's rendering
engine. Some of the browsers are Avant, GreenBrowser, Maxthon and
SlimBrowser.

You apparently didn't read the release notes for IEradicator:

No. I mean i don't read anything usually.

 

[HillBillyBuddhist]

I run a Win2K system, and I read that Internet Explorer is very open
to security risks on Win2K. Therefore (I'm told), I should use
alternate browers such as Mozilla or others.

I've found a browser I really like, Slimbrowser, especially the way it
handles bookmarks. My question, though, is whether this is really a
separate browser. From some of it's behaviors, it seems like
Slimbrowser might really be some kind of overlay over Internet
Explorer. So my question is, am I really getting away from the risks
of IE by using Slimbrowser?

Thanks in advance for all replies.

Steve O.

From the horses mouth.

"SlimBrowser is based on Internet Explorer rendering engine. So it has the
same level of security as the version of IE installed on your system."


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[Steven O.]

Keep your system updated with Critical Windows Updates and you'll have no
problem.

Every time I try to get the Windows Updates, my system slows to a
crawl. No thanks.

Hogwash!
MSIE still has a 90±% market share.
If all those stories being spread by the 10% minority users were true, MS
would be broke by now and
all would be on browsers other than MSIE.
Keep your system updated with Critical Windows Updates and you'll have no
problem.

DanlK, FYI Services Collectibles
www.FYIS.org

"Spying On The College Of Your Choice" -- How to pick the college that is the Best Match for a high school student's needs.
http://www.SpyingOnTheCollegeOfYourChoice.com

 

[Kerodo]

All wrong : SlimBrowser is not just an IE shell or an IE overlay,
and the proove is that i have installed it on a machine WITHOUT
IE : So if it would have been just an overlay, it shouldn't have work
without IE, but it does ! That means only that there are different
flavours of "IE based browsers". The only thing you will miss
when you remove IE is the hability to view png.

That seems rather doubtful. If you don't have IE on your system then Slim
won't work. I suspect that IE still resides on your system somewhere in
some form or other, even as part of the OS or whatever..

 

[Doc]

Every time I try to get the Windows Updates, my system slows to a
crawl. No thanks.

Sticking your head in the sand and saying NO to updates isn't the safe
way to go. Find out why MS Update is slow on your system and fix it.

 

[jmatt]

Find out why MS Update is slow on your system and fix it.

And that may be as simple as removing spyfiles .

After every new install ( including ms updates ) I run my spyfiles
checkers .

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[Klaatu]

Hogwash!
MSIE still has a 90ñ% market share.
If all those stories being spread by the 10% minority users were true,
MS would be broke by now and all would be on browsers other than MSIE.

Or, perhaps, 90% of people are idiots, or just ignorant...

Speaking as a tech support person, I think 90% is a bit on the low side.
Most people don't even know they are using a program to browse the
internet. If you ask them "What browser are you using", a typical answer is
"Program? I don't use a program. I just get on the internet."

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

Or, perhaps, 90% of people are idiots, or just ignorant...

Speaking as a tech support person, I think 90% is a bit on the low side.
Most people don't even know they are using a program to browse the
internet. If you ask them "What browser are you using", a typical answer
is "Program? I don't use a program. I just get on the internet."

According to these stats IE is at about 70%

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

 

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According to these stats IE is at about 70%

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

"(The statistics above are extracted from W3Schools' log-files, but
we are also monitoring other sources around the Internet to assure
the quality of these figures) "

I find it hard to believe that W3School's logs provide a
representative sample, despite their claim that they look at other
sources to verify. People who care enough about the web to visit
W3Schools have probably made different choices about browsers than
the general browsing population.

Last month, widely used "counter" sites still reported IE usage in
the 88-89% range, but their numbers are probably a bit high for IE
due to User-Agent spoofing and to alternate browser users blocking
counters along with advertisements.

<http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox36.html>

<http://thecounter.com/stats/2005/February/browser.php>

But no matter who's doing the counting, IE's numbers are in steady
decline.

 

[Fuzzy Logic]

"(The statistics above are extracted from W3Schools' log-files, but
we are also monitoring other sources around the Internet to assure
the quality of these figures) "

I find it hard to believe that W3School's logs provide a
representative sample, despite their claim that they look at other
sources to verify. People who care enough about the web to visit
W3Schools have probably made different choices about browsers than
the general browsing population.

Last month, widely used "counter" sites still reported IE usage in
the 88-89% range, but their numbers are probably a bit high for IE
due to User-Agent spoofing and to alternate browser users blocking
counters along with advertisements.

<http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox36.html>

<http://thecounter.com/stats/2005/February/browser.php>

But no matter who's doing the counting, IE's numbers are in steady
decline.

I anticipate that it will level out once people realize that there are
vulnerabilities in every browser and that switching to another browser other
than IE is not a panacea for web browsing and security.

 

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I anticipate that it will level out once people realize that there
are vulnerabilities in every browser and that switching to another
browser other than IE is not a panacea for web browsing and
security.

I think the ones who wanted improved security have already switched
(and gotten it), and that further movement is/will be the result of
good word of mouth.