IDE card reader or some other one not USB; is it possible?

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Go Tyler

I have no more USB headers on my MOBO, and the usb card reader I just got
would not work on my MOBO. I don't want to run any cable out the back of the
comp and plug it into a USB port on the back.

Is there any internal card reader I can get that will work some other way
than USB? What about IDE? I have plenty of those.

If worst came to worst, I supposed I could get a usb controller card with a
usb header on it, but I really did not want to take up my last pci slot.
 
K

kony

I have no more USB headers on my MOBO,

Get a USB hub... a powered hub if necessary.
This alone is probably the best solution providing you can
get the readers to work with your board or add-on pci card
mentioned below.
and the usb card reader I just got
would not work on my MOBO.

Are you sure it is a reader-mobo interaction? Most often,
it's either the reader drivers and/or windows interaction
(or lack thereof) causing a problem. What specific
motherboard and reader, can you link to their product pages
or provide more info?
I don't want to run any cable out the back of the
comp and plug it into a USB port on the back.

OK?
Why not if all else fails?
Not elequent, but it'd do the job.
Another option i'd mentioned above briefly is a PCI, USB
card to provide more ports. Some have internal USB socket
or pin header for different uses, though I don't recall
which brands do at the moment- but Newegg.com has some good
pictures, it should be obvious on the pics which ones do.
Is there any internal card reader I can get that will work some other way
than USB? What about IDE? I have plenty of those.

Yes you can get a Compact Flash (only, no other formats),
IDE adapter that is a bare card or that sits in a front bay.
Two biggest problems are you cannot insert or remove the
card while the system is running- ONLY while it's turned
off, and the obvious, it only reads Compact Flash.

These are more often used for mission-specific, like
embedded systems to use CF in lieu of a hard drive. IIRC,
there are other more expensive adapters like that that will
make other memory formats emulate CF, but they still have
the limitation of having system turned off prior to plugin
or removal... due to the IDE bus, not the reader itself.

If worst came to worst, I supposed I could get a usb controller card with a
usb header on it, but I really did not want to take up my last pci slot.


.... then get the hub & figure out why your mobo's ports
aren't working with it... does the reader work with other
systems so you know it's not faulty? What operating system?
 
G

Go Tyler

Thank you. I have to ask you, what difference does it make if it is either
slave or master? Are you saying that you finally got your to work on the
master setting?
 
G

Go Tyler

kony said:
Get a USB hub... a powered hub if necessary.
This alone is probably the best solution providing you can
get the readers to work with your board or add-on pci card
mentioned below.


Are you sure it is a reader-mobo interaction? Most often,
it's either the reader drivers and/or windows interaction
(or lack thereof) causing a problem. What specific
motherboard and reader, can you link to their product pages
or provide more info?


OK?
Why not if all else fails?
Not elequent, but it'd do the job.
Another option i'd mentioned above briefly is a PCI, USB
card to provide more ports. Some have internal USB socket
or pin header for different uses, though I don't recall
which brands do at the moment- but Newegg.com has some good
pictures, it should be obvious on the pics which ones do.


Yes you can get a Compact Flash (only, no other formats),
IDE adapter that is a bare card or that sits in a front bay.
Two biggest problems are you cannot insert or remove the
card while the system is running- ONLY while it's turned
off, and the obvious, it only reads Compact Flash.

These are more often used for mission-specific, like
embedded systems to use CF in lieu of a hard drive. IIRC,
there are other more expensive adapters like that that will
make other memory formats emulate CF, but they still have
the limitation of having system turned off prior to plugin
or removal... due to the IDE bus, not the reader itself.




... then get the hub & figure out why your mobo's ports
aren't working with it... does the reader work with other
systems so you know it's not faulty? What operating system?


None of the above. Could you spend as much time on finding me an IDE
internal like I asked? Thank you.
 
G

Go Tyler

Never mind Fitz. The one you sent me says specifically that it will work
either as a slave or a master. Thank you for helping me.
 
K

kony

None of the above. Could you spend as much time on finding me an IDE
internal like I asked? Thank you.


Read more carefully, there aren't any like you want.

learn to accept that what you randomly want at any given
moment, is not necessarily what you get, unless there are
enough OTHER people that want one too, enough to make it
worthwhile for someone to manufacture them.
 
K

kony

None of the above. Could you spend as much time on finding me an IDE
internal like I asked? Thank you.


My apologies, the last time I had looked for such a device I
found only those which required leaving the memory in the
device, or out, the entire time the system was running. The
Addonics that Fitz linked looks very interesting.

Now please don't be a snot anymore, your comment makes you
look a bit of an ass in reply to someone that was trying to
be helpful, who didn't think you would settle for something
that required leaving the memory in or out... since at the
time I had no idea of the Addonics.
 
K

kony

None of the above. Could you spend as much time on finding me an IDE
internal like I asked? Thank you.


... and further, you'd still be as well off getting your USB
working... what are you going to do the NEXT time you come
across a USB device that won't work?
 
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DevilsPGD

In message <[email protected]> kony
.. and further, you'd still be as well off getting your USB
working... what are you going to do the NEXT time you come
across a USB device that won't work?

You're not very good at reading (or comprehension), are you?

He never said he has any USB ports, just that he doesn't have any USB
headers on his motherboard and doesn't want a cable running out the back
of the PC.
 
K

kony

In message <[email protected]> kony


You're not very good at reading (or comprehension), are you?

Your post has a bit of irony. Maybe if you ponder it you'll
understand or should I just spell it out for you?
He never said he has any USB ports, just that he doesn't have any USB
headers on his motherboard and doesn't want a cable running out the back
of the PC.

Yes, he did clearly imply he had USB ports. A direct quote:

----------------------
"I have no more USB headers on my MOBO, and the usb card
reader I just got would not work on my MOBO. I don't want to
run any cable out the back of the comp and plug it into a
USB port on the back.
--------------------------

Now how would you explain being able to try a USB card
reader if he had no USB ports? It is necessarily so that he
does.

Why would he write that he doesn't want a cable out the back
if there's no usb port for the cable to go to?

The irony is that you lack the comprehension, and in
ignorance start trying to claim others do too.

I was ignorant of one thing though, the existence of the IDE
readers that now don't require leaving the cards inserted.
Why anyone would spend a premium for one of those is
questionable, since I still consider my prior suggestion the
best, to figure out why the board's USB ports aren't working
with the reader and get them fixed... which probably means
making some windows and/or driver corrections.
 

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