ICS setup problem

[Guest]

I have trolled through about 40 messages but cannot find my specific
issue discussed.

I have had to go to dialup from broadband (moved to unsupported area
for broadband) and, so, would like to use ICS to access a single
dialup for internet connectivity. I previously used a broadband router
successfully for my three XPHome systems....all with SP2 installed.
Now, I am using this same router for my network without internet
access via the network.

Cannot seem to get the ICS to work. Noticed that I do not have a
service with ICF or ICS showing. I have been playing with the router
ip address and have disabled the firewall. It just doesn't seem to
want to work, even though the network is OK and each can dial up
separately OK....not a good solution due to connubial conflicts with
Internet access.

Need some help. Also, the PPPoE confuses me....I had been getting
drops, but new modem software...and in another case a new
modem...fixed that issue....mostly. Don't understand the PPPoE issue
despite the articles...is this something my IP vendor supports that I
have to set up to take advantage of? I use Earthlink.

Thanks for any advice.

Henry

 

[Chuck]

I have trolled through about 40 messages but cannot find my specific
issue discussed.

I have had to go to dialup from broadband (moved to unsupported area
for broadband) and, so, would like to use ICS to access a single
dialup for internet connectivity. I previously used a broadband router
successfully for my three XPHome systems....all with SP2 installed.
Now, I am using this same router for my network without internet
access via the network.

Cannot seem to get the ICS to work. Noticed that I do not have a
service with ICF or ICS showing. I have been playing with the router
ip address and have disabled the firewall. It just doesn't seem to
want to work, even though the network is OK and each can dial up
separately OK....not a good solution due to connubial conflicts with
Internet access.

Need some help. Also, the PPPoE confuses me....I had been getting
drops, but new modem software...and in another case a new
modem...fixed that issue....mostly. Don't understand the PPPoE issue
despite the articles...is this something my IP vendor supports that I
have to set up to take advantage of? I use Earthlink.

Thanks for any advice.

Henry

Henry,

To use your router (simply as a hub/switch), with an ICS server:
1) Disable DHCP on the router.
2) Connect the ICS server, and all ICS clients, as peers to the LAN side of the
router.
3) Change the LAN address of the router from 192.168.0.1 to something like
192.168.0.99 (gotta keep it on 192.168.0/24 subnet).
4) Setup the LAN interface on the ICS server as 192.168.0.1 (this is
automatic).
5) Setup any ICS clients to use DHCP for all settings (obtain IP address and
DNS servers automatically).
6) If you're going to do file sharing, either disable ICF on the ICS LAN
connection (not recommended for a wireless router), or open the following ports
in ICF for the LAN connection: TCP 139, 445; UDP 137, 138, 445.

Far simpler would be to get an external modem, and a router that supports dialup
- your choice of:
Netgear FR328S (wired):
<http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FR328S.php>
Netgear FWG114P (wireless):
<http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FWG114P.php>
SMC SMC7004ABR (wired):
<http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProduct&localeCode=EN_USA&pid=858>
SMC SMC7004AWBR (wireless):
<http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProduct&localeCode=EN_USA&pid=881>
USR USR8000A (wired):
<http://www.usr.com/products/networking/router-product.asp?sku=USR8000A>
USR USR8022 (wireless):
<http://www.usr.com/products/networking/router-product.asp?sku=USR8022>
All products will require an external modem of your choice. As some have
discovered, a WinModem will not suffice.

For the ICS / PPPoE issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=319661
http://www.allensmith.net/Windows/ICS/xpICSmtu.htm
If the connectivity problems that you're experiencing are MTU related, then you
have to change the MTU on each ICS client with the problem. The AllenSmith
article explains a diagnostic approach.

 

[Guest]

The dial up router is likely the best solution. I was trying to make
do with what I had, but we all know what a problem that can create.

Thanks for the advice and references. Oh, a new issue with the
router...don't know how long this has been going on: the DHCP table
does not have all the servers listed...only my primary server. But,
the network works OK and I can share with any combination of servers.
Don't know what this means, if anything.

Henry

 

[Chuck]

The dial up router is likely the best solution. I was trying to make
do with what I had, but we all know what a problem that can create.

Thanks for the advice and references. Oh, a new issue with the
router...don't know how long this has been going on: the DHCP table
does not have all the servers listed...only my primary server. But,
the network works OK and I can share with any combination of servers.
Don't know what this means, if anything.

Henry

Henry,

You're right - a dialup router is far the best solution. But you CAN make ICS
and your current router solution work, if its not immediately convenient to get
a new router.

Are you looking at the DHCP table on the router? If ICS is running on the
computer connected directly to the dialup, that will probably be supplying DHCP,
so you should disable DHCP on the router. As long as each computer has a unique
address, on the same subnet, you're OK. But what works today may not
necessarily work tomorrow.

You're right, it may mean nothing, but if you like, extract ipconfig information
for each computer, and post it here. This should identify any possible
problems.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post.

 

[Guest]

Ah, Chuck, my man. I have a mess on my hands. I configured the router
as a hub by assigning appropriate IP addresses and disabling the
automatic dhcp process ...but the Linksys instructions were not
entirely accurate.

Nonetheless, I have the router set up as a hub and I almost have the
network back....but it is really slow in establishing connectivity and
one of the three servers just cannot be accessed.

I also tried to use the MS Help to identify how to set up the ICS
parameters and I just don't find the ICS enablement or assignment tabs
in the network parameter and properties windows.

This is very confusing. I cannot find anything in the ICS server to
show that it is the ICS server. I used the wizard to configure it as
the ICS server, but nothing shows up in properties to show that it has
"taken".

Somewhere there must be instructions for XPHomeSP2 that are a step by
step reciept for getting it right on a simple three pc network.

Henry

 

[Chuck]

Ah, Chuck, my man. I have a mess on my hands. I configured the router
as a hub by assigning appropriate IP addresses and disabling the
automatic dhcp process ...but the Linksys instructions were not
entirely accurate.

Nonetheless, I have the router set up as a hub and I almost have the
network back....but it is really slow in establishing connectivity and
one of the three servers just cannot be accessed.

I also tried to use the MS Help to identify how to set up the ICS
parameters and I just don't find the ICS enablement or assignment tabs
in the network parameter and properties windows.

This is very confusing. I cannot find anything in the ICS server to
show that it is the ICS server. I used the wizard to configure it as
the ICS server, but nothing shows up in properties to show that it has
"taken".

Somewhere there must be instructions for XPHomeSP2 that are a step by
step reciept for getting it right on a simple three pc network.

Henry

Henry,

There's not a lot to configure with ICS. If your computer has 2 connections (2
Ethernet adapters, or 1 Ethernet adapter and 1 modem), you can enable ICS
(either using the wizard, or Network Connections - Dial-Up Connection Properties
- Advanced). If you don't have 2 connections, you can't run ICS.

If you start the Help and Support Center, and search on ICS, you should find
several articles with information.

If you run the wizard, you simply select these options:
For the ICS server,
- "This computer connects directly to the internet" and
- "This computer provides internet service".
For the ICS clients,
- "This computer connects thru another computer...".

Once ICS is enabled, it takes over the Ethernet connection that's not directly
connected to the internet, and gives it ip address 192.168.0.1. Any ICS clients
get their settings thru the DHCP server in the ICS server.

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer, so we can see where to
start looking for your problems.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing.

What model Linksys is this?

 

[Guest]

Well, out of frustration and a hunch, I put in a separate NIC...I had
been using two on-board NIC ports successfully, then something went
wrong. I immediately got the Dlink NIC to link up with the dialup on
my ICS server without any further tweaking. It was something
squirrelly going on with the on-board ports...Asus A7N8X Deluxe
board...beware the Asus on-board features. Maybe a bios issue.

Now, the working NIC is misidentified as one of the onboard units and
I think I will leave well enough alone.

Chuck, you were right...it is simple to convert a router to a
hub/switch and to set up ICS...but only if the hardware is operating
correctly. That was the issue and I thank you for your help and
support.

Henry

 

[Chuck]

Well, out of frustration and a hunch, I put in a separate NIC...I had
been using two on-board NIC ports successfully, then something went
wrong. I immediately got the Dlink NIC to link up with the dialup on
my ICS server without any further tweaking. It was something
squirrelly going on with the on-board ports...Asus A7N8X Deluxe
board...beware the Asus on-board features. Maybe a bios issue.

Now, the working NIC is misidentified as one of the onboard units and
I think I will leave well enough alone.

Chuck, you were right...it is simple to convert a router to a
hub/switch and to set up ICS...but only if the hardware is operating
correctly. That was the issue and I thank you for your help and
support.

Henry

Henry,

Good points all around. Thanks for the update, and the feedback.

 

[Guest]

Ah, not so fast. After an initial success, the whole thing failed on
me. I get network connectivity all around and the ICS host gets good
connectivity. But, I then did some updating...connected like the ICS
was functionsing, but then the ICS features failed.

Again, the IP addresses have been set and the hub seems to work OK,
but the ICS feature is dead. I have shut off all firewalls but
something else is blocking me. In the two clients, the IE connectivity
window has the dial up options greyed out.

I just don't get it. Maybe the ICS service is corrupted on the ICS
host/server. So, how do I "re-install it" to see if that is the
problem? Or, what other magic can I try? This is truly frustrating.

Henry

 

[Chuck]

Ah, not so fast. After an initial success, the whole thing failed on
me. I get network connectivity all around and the ICS host gets good
connectivity. But, I then did some updating...connected like the ICS
was functionsing, but then the ICS features failed.

Again, the IP addresses have been set and the hub seems to work OK,
but the ICS feature is dead. I have shut off all firewalls but
something else is blocking me. In the two clients, the IE connectivity
window has the dial up options greyed out.

I just don't get it. Maybe the ICS service is corrupted on the ICS
host/server. So, how do I "re-install it" to see if that is the
problem? Or, what other magic can I try? This is truly frustrating.

Henry

Henry,

Darn. Too good to be true. %-{

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing.

Then test from each computer:
From a command window:
1) Ping www.yahoo.com.
2) Ping 66.94.230.33.
Report success / exact text of error messages.
From your browser:
3) Browse www.yahoo.com.
4) Browse 66.94.230.33.
Report success / exact text of error messages.

 

[Guest]

OK, I have a partial success and I don't understand it or how it got
the way it did. I have two clients and I got one of them to work with
the ICS. The other still will not. The difference between the setups
is strange.

In the one client that is functioning with the ISC server in the
network connections window, an Internet Gateway installation shows up
that contains the name of the dial up client and path to the server!
More interestingly, I have no idea what I did for it to show up.

When you double click on the icon for this Internet Gateway
connection, a graphical representation of the server, gateway, and
internet shows up with the transfer rates showing up from the internet
connection on the server through the dial up gateway...incoming and
outgoing....!!! Never heard or of saw such a thing, but it clearly
shows that the ICS is a gateway connection strategy.

Does this make any sense or give anyone a clue how I can get my second
client to behave????

Help help help for a totally confused amateur!!

Henry

 

[Guest]

Well, I am getting closer to the truth but it is still elusive.
Figured out how to get the Internet Gateway to appear on the
recalcitrant client....used the repair function on the gateway dial up
connect. Now, I can see but I cannot connect.

It is a fast reject...like something is still blocking the actual
connect despite the fact that I can see it. I have Zone Alarm shut off
and XP's firewall shut off...with exceptions or not set...nothing
seems to allow a connection from the problem client via the ICS to the
internet. I am totally stumped. Reboots and turning things off and on
do not help. I must be missing a critical switch somewhere.

Any ideas???

Henry

 

[Guest]

OK, now to the technical stuff. All three PC's can ping yahoo: no
erros. I am calling the ICS server the server, the good client...the
one that can use ICS...the good client....and the bad client
the...well, you get the picture. All ping Yahoo. Below are the
indivicual IPconfig data from each:

Server

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : hlamuth
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-530TX+ PCI
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-35-AF
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
PPP adapter EarthLink:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 4.230.255.188
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 4.230.255.188
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.69.188.187
207.69.188.186
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled


Good (Working) Client

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : spare
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast
Ethernet Adapter (rev.A)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-80-C8-E1-26-C2
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.70
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 18,
2004 5:59:30 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 25,
2004 5:59:30 PM

Bad (non-working) client

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : rlamuth
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 12: (this one is disabled)
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP
Networking Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-7D-E4-8C
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 13:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-530TX+ PCI
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-38-ED-E8
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 11: (this one is also disabled)
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated
Fast Ethernet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-26-54-10-90-24


The ipconfig info from the non-working system is clearly more limited
and different from that from the working PC. Now, why the differences
and how to fix them.

I really appreciate your help on this, Chuck. Hope the above data is
enlightening.

Henry

 

[Chuck]

OK, I have a partial success and I don't understand it or how it got
the way it did. I have two clients and I got one of them to work with
the ICS. The other still will not. The difference between the setups
is strange.

In the one client that is functioning with the ISC server in the
network connections window, an Internet Gateway installation shows up
that contains the name of the dial up client and path to the server!
More interestingly, I have no idea what I did for it to show up.

When you double click on the icon for this Internet Gateway
connection, a graphical representation of the server, gateway, and
internet shows up with the transfer rates showing up from the internet
connection on the server through the dial up gateway...incoming and
outgoing....!!! Never heard or of saw such a thing, but it clearly
shows that the ICS is a gateway connection strategy.

Does this make any sense or give anyone a clue how I can get my second
client to behave????

Help help help for a totally confused amateur!!

Henry

Henry,

If both ICS clients were setup identically, then offhand I'd guess that you have
a service running on one computer (the working ICS client) that's not running on
the other computer.

Did you compare "ipconfig /all" from the two first?

To easily compare services status (and other features) between the two
computers, get Everest (ex AIDA) (free) from http://www.lavalys.com/. Run an
Everest report, and compare the status of the various services. The ALG
(Application Layer Gateway), and the WF/ICS (Windows Firewall / Internet
Connection Sharing), services come to mind, but there may be other possible
problems.

 

[Chuck]

OK, now to the technical stuff. All three PC's can ping yahoo: no
erros. I am calling the ICS server the server, the good client...the
one that can use ICS...the good client....and the bad client
the...well, you get the picture. All ping Yahoo. Below are the
indivicual IPconfig data from each:

Server

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : hlamuth
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-530TX+ PCI
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-35-AF
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
PPP adapter EarthLink:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 4.230.255.188
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 4.230.255.188
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.69.188.187
207.69.188.186
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled


Good (Working) Client

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : spare
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast
Ethernet Adapter (rev.A)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-80-C8-E1-26-C2
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.70
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 18,
2004 5:59:30 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 25,
2004 5:59:30 PM

Bad (non-working) client

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : rlamuth
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 12: (this one is disabled)
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP
Networking Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-7D-E4-8C
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 13:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-530TX+ PCI
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-38-ED-E8
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 11: (this one is also disabled)
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated
Fast Ethernet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-26-54-10-90-24


The ipconfig info from the non-working system is clearly more limited
and different from that from the working PC. Now, why the differences
and how to fix them.

I really appreciate your help on this, Chuck. Hope the above data is
enlightening.

Henry

Henry,

How about you enable DHCP on rlamuth, restart it, and make sure it can ping
hlamuth.
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Guest]

Interesting diagnostic tool...Everest. Glad I know about it. Found the
problem without it, though, based on your DHCP service comment. I am
not sure how I got where I got to, but somehow in my experiments on
the system that finally connected, I enabled the acquire address
automatically for my network. This was the key.

I apparently misinterpreted the comments about the router to hub
conversion to require me to make each PC have its own IP address. Only
the ICS server needs a fixed address...the others acquire their
addresses dynamically. Why don't the instructions just say that? It
may be idiosyncratic when the ICS is being implemented rather than
just a simple hub. I suppose I should have known, but it still
irks...but does not surprise me...that the instructions are never
actually reviewed with non-experts, like senior manager ;-).

I appreciate your time, efforts, and insights....I am one hell of a
lot smarter about network protocols etc now than before....

I have noticed that there seems to be some activity inside the
network...not noticeable to the internet...around the network. A bunch
of ack-nak keeping things updated...5 or so packets a second.
Consequently, the network is never quiescent entirely. Good old Zone
Alarm though shows nothing getting through from the Internet. Got to
love those trusted zones.

Thanks, again, for the help.

Henry

 

[Chuck]

Interesting diagnostic tool...Everest. Glad I know about it. Found the
problem without it, though, based on your DHCP service comment. I am
not sure how I got where I got to, but somehow in my experiments on
the system that finally connected, I enabled the acquire address
automatically for my network. This was the key.

I apparently misinterpreted the comments about the router to hub
conversion to require me to make each PC have its own IP address. Only
the ICS server needs a fixed address...the others acquire their
addresses dynamically. Why don't the instructions just say that? It
may be idiosyncratic when the ICS is being implemented rather than
just a simple hub. I suppose I should have known, but it still
irks...but does not surprise me...that the instructions are never
actually reviewed with non-experts, like senior manager ;-).

I appreciate your time, efforts, and insights....I am one hell of a
lot smarter about network protocols etc now than before....

I have noticed that there seems to be some activity inside the
network...not noticeable to the internet...around the network. A bunch
of ack-nak keeping things updated...5 or so packets a second.
Consequently, the network is never quiescent entirely. Good old Zone
Alarm though shows nothing getting through from the Internet. Got to
love those trusted zones.

Thanks, again, for the help.

Henry

Henry,

Why don't the instructions just say that? That's rhetorical, right? I gave up
trying to understand Microsoft years ago.

Your observed background network activity could be one of several things. Maybe
your browsers communicating with the master browser. Maybe services being
broadcast by each server. Maybe ARP traffic. NetBIOS is a very chatty
protocol. Hopefully nothing to be alarmed about, but you might want to keep an
eye on ZA anyway.

Get Port Explorer (free) from
<http://www.diamondcs.com.au/portexplorer/index.php?page=home> to show you what
network connections your computer is actually opening, and what processes are
opening them.
And Process Explorer (free) from
<http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml>. Provides way more
information than Task Manager.

Glad you got it solved. Maybe we both learned a bit. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[Guest]

Ah, not so fast. Solved??? I got a couple of ideosyncrosies that bear
some thought...maybe Everest will come in handy yet.

The "bad" client doesn't sych up all the time. I have to force it to
get an IP address. E-mail...have to cycle it a couple of times, even
on the server...to get it to sych with the ISP mail server.
Connectivity seems to be squirrelly. Only the server news groups and
IE are consistent. The "good" client is "pretty" consistent. But, the
"bad" client is not behaving consistently.

I will use Everest to make sure things are consistent. In the
meantime, I will see if this ICS issue is covered by a KB article. If
something occurs to you, please share it. Otherwise, as they say, the
devil is in the details...which I have not worried out of the set up
just yet.

Thanks for the feedback.

Henry

 

[Chuck]

Ah, not so fast. Solved??? I got a couple of ideosyncrosies that bear
some thought...maybe Everest will come in handy yet.

The "bad" client doesn't sych up all the time. I have to force it to
get an IP address. E-mail...have to cycle it a couple of times, even
on the server...to get it to sych with the ISP mail server.
Connectivity seems to be squirrelly. Only the server news groups and
IE are consistent. The "good" client is "pretty" consistent. But, the
"bad" client is not behaving consistently.

I will use Everest to make sure things are consistent. In the
meantime, I will see if this ICS issue is covered by a KB article. If
something occurs to you, please share it. Otherwise, as they say, the
devil is in the details...which I have not worried out of the set up
just yet.

Thanks for the feedback.

Henry

Henry,

Huh. An inconsistency. Dunno what Everest entry will help, maybe we have to
look at this some more.

What do you mean "sych up" with the server? What do you cycle when it doesn't
sych? What error do you get when it doesn't sych up?

Do you connect to the mail server by ip address or by name?

When you have trouble connecting, ping it by name and by ip address, from both
the ICS client and the ICS server, and see exactly what errors you get. Be
precise.

 

[Guest]

I am not sure I can follow your discussion. Bear with me. Sych simply
means that the IP addresses are provided by the host and accepted or
accepted by the clients. Long delays.

However, when I use multiple instances of an application, after two or
three tries, the application opens: IE, mail, newreader. I don't
really make any changes to these...I just open them and they
"internally" access the Internet ports. Sooner or later, they
open...access the internet. But it takes multiple tries.

The "good" client is the fastest or best, so, if Everest were to
indicate some "accidentally" correct setting, I could duplicat it.
Sync simply means grabbing the IP address supplied by the host. My
vocabulary may need some updating.

It works but not well.

Henry